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Social Engineering Using USB Drives

Iphtashu Fitz writes "What's the easiest way to hack into the computer systems of a credit union? It turns out that all you need to do is copy a virus/trojan onto USB drives and scatter them around the front door of the credit union. This was how a recent security audit was performed at a credit union where the employees had actually been tipped off to the audit. Security experts collected 20 old USB thumb drives and filled them with images and other data along with a trojan that would collect sensitive information and e-mail it back to them. Early one morning they planted the thumb drives around the entrances to the credit union as well as other public places where the employees were known to congregate. In very little time 15 of the 20 USB drives were plugged into company computer systems and started e-mailing usernames, passwords, etc. back to the auditors."

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  1. wow by nb+caffeine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thats an amazingly clever idea. "Hey, free stuff" is what I would think. And then plug it into my ubuntu box :)

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    1. Re:wow by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately, even if you run ubuntu, you are still vulnerable - that's the beauty of social engineering.

      Sure, you might not fall for a renamed executable on a USB drive, but what if it's taken a step farther?

      Imagine you are walking into work early, and find an open folder on the floor, with some papers strewn around and a CD or DVD in with it. Imagine the paper is an application to put on a SIGGRAPH demonstration, and on the CD is a WINDOWS directory, a LINUX directory, a BSD directory and a SOLARIS directory and each directory has a file named SIGGRAPH_presentation.exe or there is a SIGGRAPH_presentation.jar, (eliminating the need for multiple OS versions), with a README about how to execute it. You figure, "What the heck - I love cool graphics."

      Now, while you are watching a cool graphics demo, it checks if you are logged in as root and, if you are, installs a nasty payload. If not, it could simply start emailing every file it finds in your home directory, or delete them, or encrypt them.

      I don't care what OS you are running, if you can be convinced to execute something, there will be some damage done. If you aren't root the damage is limited, but there is still damage. The attack may have to involve more research on a person's interests, or require more "found" hardware to convince someone, but it can be done. Maybe someone has to buy some hardware from ThinkGeek and make a fake installation disk, then leave the box, (with the modified disk), somewhere you will come across it.

      Being convinced you are immune to the dangers of social engineering is not a good way to avoid being social engineered. A healthy dose of paranoia can go far - and it's only paranoia if there isn't anyone out to get you.

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    2. Re:wow by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your example is not "taking it a step farther". It is the same damn thing. It requires the user to manually discover that there is an executable and then to deliberately run it.

      It is taking it a step farther - not from a technical standpoint, but from the social engineering standpoint. It is no longer an anonymous USB drive found in a parking lot, but a "dropped" folder that has many different artifacts reinforcing the point that it really is a graphics demo. The point is, if you are socially engineered, it doesn't matter what OS you run; and nearly everyone can be socially engineered - it just requires more time and effort on the part of the attacker to find a way.

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    3. Re:wow by gaspyy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      it checks if you are logged in as root and, if you are, installs a nasty payload. If not, it could simply start emailing every file it finds in your home directory, or delete them, or encrypt them.


      And which one is worse? Why so many people don't understand that running as root doesn't solve anything in this case?

      The days of nasty payloads are over. They were popular in the early '90's (remember Michelangelo?), but nowadays it's more profitable to steal data instead. Armies of zombie computers, stolen credit card data and passwords, that's what this is all about.

      If I were a malware writer, I wouldn't want to kill my infected computers. I would nurture them instead so that they could provide me with as much information as possible for the longest time possible. Why would I format their hard drive or mess with the OS when I have access to their emails, passwords, documents, everything that really matters??
  2. Human curiosity kills the computer by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is going to be a hard one to stop. Humans are curious, when you find a cd, hard drive, thumb drive, the first thing your going to want to do is stick it in your computer and find out what juicy secrets are on it.

    My best advice for corporations is to lock down the computers and only allow approved devices by security profile. Trying to train people not to act like people will fail.

    Any better ideas other then beating the users with a stick or JB Weld in any unused ports on a computer.

    1. Re:Human curiosity kills the computer by MisterSquid · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Humans are curious, when you find a cd, hard drive, thumb drive, the first thing your going to want to do is stick it in your computer and find out what juicy secrets are on it.

      Yes, they are curious about prurient matters, but some of them are also thoughtful and helpful. Notwithstanding the selfish behavior of some people who find unattended hardware, many people would understand the value of the data contained on a lost thumb drive. I personally would have mounted the thumb drive on my desktop in order to find clues that might help me return the drive to its rightful owner.

      If along the way I had found a "sexy.jpg" or some email with the subject line "Want to meet for quickie?", yeah, I might have opened it up (I run a Mac and probably live a bit too dangerously even given near-zero infection rates of Macs today). But I would have definitely tried to get the drive back to its owner.

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    2. Re:Human curiosity kills the computer by iaminthetrunk · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Any better ideas other then beating the users with a stick or JB Weld in any unused ports on a computer.

      I work at a Fortune 500 company, that actually hands out USB keys with laptop provisionings. Not only might we one day find hackers attempting to place USB keys outside, we already occassionally find misplaced usb keys inside the building. Plugging one in to find out whom to return it to is both obvious and a common practice upon finding one misplaced.

      However - we have a 'test lab' box on the floor - where we test software downloads, open source libraries, etc., for wholesome behavoir before submitting them for approval for production use, hence it's straightforward to pop the usb key in over there, a brief stroll away, on a safe box not hooked up to email or the general network. It's a fairly easy habit to acquire, although same-floor convenience is probably key.

      Being curious is one thing. Being curious and setting loose a virus when a test lab box was trivially nearby is arguably another thing; it's generally understood you'd catch extra hell for being lazy in that scenario and deserve it.

      People are lazy in addition to being curious, of course. But it is a suggestion. Most companies large enough to have too many employees to rigorous train on security, are also generally large enough to provide test lab boxes, (and virtual server sofware, vpn work arrangements from home, etc.)

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    3. Re:Human curiosity kills the computer by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm, Sounds like the best answer is.

      1) Text file on drive with your name and number.
      2) Encrypt every thing else!

      You might get your drive back then.

      If you want to look at the disk.

      1) create non privliged testuser account on your linux (or other non standard OS) box (pref' non x86).
      2) view drive contents.
      3) remove testuser account when done.

      Your chances of getting pwned by some tricky bastard would be much lower.

    4. Re:Human curiosity kills the computer by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My best advice for corporations is to lock down the computers and only allow approved devices by security profile.

      great idea. Problem is that Corperations refuse to allow IT to limit what the managers, sales and marketing staff can do with their PC.

      Almost all IT managers and staff are frustrated completely with the fact that some upper VP exec is enough of an asshole that he DEMANDED that all the sales PC's came with DVD burners and other giant security holes simply for the sake of convienence.

      Until someone severely beats into the heads of the executives of these corperations that catering to the morons in sales will cost you more in the long run instead of forcing those children to actually follow the rules and ensuring security it will never EVER change.

      Last time I worked Corperate IT management and we had a virus outbreak it was traced to the Director of Marketing's work laptop as the intiial source. It seems that Directors do not have to obey any of the rules and he demanded that he run as administrator all the time. This was directed by the VP of IT as he sits in the same office suite as the Director and he whines.

      The fact that the Upper management of the IT devision also do not understand what their department needs and does further makes it a mess.

      S othese kinds of things will forever happen because the upper IT management will roll over in an instant for other department management.

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  3. Through the front door by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You've probably seen the experiments where users can be conned into giving up their passwords for a chocolate bar or a $1 bill. But this little giveaway took those a step further, working off humans' innate curiosity. Emailed virus writers exploit this same vulnerability, as do phishers and their clever faux Websites. Our credit union client wasn't unique or special. All the technology and filtering and scanning in the world won't address human nature. But it remains the single biggest open door to any company's secrets.

    There you have it -- invest in fancy firewalls, make people change their passwords every 90 days, filter email from spam, phish, virii, and trojans, and then sit back and watch as your employees bypass all those lovely defenses and lay your system vulnerable.

    I've said it before: there's no use building a wall, firing up the boiling oil, and digging a moat and filling it with sharks if you're going to build an 8-lane superhighway through it. Companies are trying to crack down, but the myriad ways that information can get stolen or transferred from a system are enourmous. USB drives, camera phones, MP3 players -- anything that can store data is a potential point of vulnerability, one which a company will be hard pressed to monitor or control. Couple that with this sudden rash of stolen laptops carrying unencrypted and often sensitive data, and the there's no reason for hackers to work too hard any more, when they can just have data handed to them.

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  4. Nice socal engineering. by Boap · · Score: 2, Insightful

    However it is simply solved by disabling the USB ports either physically or via the registery which they should have been in the first place.

  5. Re:Unfortunatly... by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most people who work in an office do not read this website.

    No, but many IT professionals do. Hopefully they educate their users to be wary of anything they dont own. It's not much different then opening an attachment from an email you receive.

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  6. Re:But.. How? by dedazo · · Score: 1, Insightful
    They didn't, because it's not possible. No version of Windows supports Autorun from anything other than a CD. The only way to 'hack' a sort-of-Autorun that supports USB (or any other mass storage mounted media) is to write an application that monitors for the arrival of a device and then actually executes whatever autorun.inf points to. Of course that means you need prior access to the machine.

    So they must have had *some* sort of executable in there. User intervention is a requirement for this type attack to succeed. But given the ease with which people tend to get infected from zipped and password-protected email attachments it doesn't surprise me one bit that they ran an application in a USB thumb drive.

    The vast majority of Windows machines that are infected with something or other are in that state because of the user.

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  7. Re:But.. How? by jim3e8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, if you had read the article, you would know the "autorun" is not done by Windows, but by "humans' innate curiosity" about files named things like anna_kournikova.scr. In other words, they clicked on the other images preplanted on the drive, and then on the virus. Really, it's spelled out in the article, and it is clear that many never clicked through the summary, as usual.

  8. And the other 5 trojan drives went where? by ChaseTec · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The scattered 20 trojan drives around the outside and 15 get picked up by their target. Notice how the don't bother saying what happened to the other 5. Did they not get used, not get found, found by other people? And you know some of those employees took the drives home and their personal information was captured. Yes it's a cool hack but unless the trojan was coded to only execute on machines with a certain MAC address it was ethically wrong.

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  9. Thin Clients by jabelar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Banks and other organizations with shared computing requiring high security should consider thin clients rather than PCs. There should be no drives on bank teller computers to transfer data either onto or off of their system.

  10. Re:Pretty scary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But I would have tested the thumbdrive on an isolated computer at home first and definitely not on a computer which could possibly reveal other people's sensitive information to the world.

    But most people are not you. Most people would never suspect that a USB drive on the floor was an intentional vector for a spybot. They would simply think it was a lost drive with some ordinary person's files on it, and hey, wouldn't that be interesting to look at? Do you really think that if someone brought a flash drive into the house, the Typical Mom or Dad would say "Junior, before you use that, let's first plug it into the our family's quarantine PC that we don't connect to any network and see if that thing tries to phone home." Yeah, right!

    The methods used by the auditors was quite well-reasoned.

  11. Age old problem... by elderban99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Once again mankind is sticking things where they shouldn't be and getting infected...something that has been going on for centuries.

  12. Re:Pretty scary. by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Believe it or not, the banks' #1 concern is not privacy of the customer's data. The #1 concern is accuracy of the data. The most important thing is that the money is where it is supposed to be. This is the reason that banks spend so much on their computer systems. Not to keep the information secret, but to keep it accurate.

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  13. Re:It's definitely a problem... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    On another note, I sure hope that company didn't send the stuff they collected unencrypted. That's a violation of a bunch of rules. Penetrating a network for a security audit shouldn't lower the overall security of the network, if they sent unecrypted that's exactly what they did though

    They could have caused the data to be sent unencrypted to a test machine inside the corporate network somewhere, or directly connected to the corporate network for the purposes of the test but outside the firewalls. That would demonstrate the possibility that the data could be sent to an arbitrary machine somewhere, but without actually sending any data unencrypted over the corporate net.

    Or they could have just SSHed to their remote test machine, that would probably be just as good and not that hard to implement.

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  14. Anonymous file distribution by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's also how you distribute information anonymously. I've thought about it many times, and if I were in possession of photos of the president getting head from Dick Cheney (and I am not, so don't ask me for copies :-) ) I'd just burn a few dozen CD's while wearing white gloves, a face mask, and a hair net. A little rubdown with some mild bleach solution, and I'd be in business. I'd just find places which were not under video surveillance to leave the CD's laying around. Somebody would pick the CD up and the photos would be out in public, anonymously. There's always a chance to be caught, but it's much safer than using an anonymous remailer through any IP connection from the US which can be subpoenaed and traced.

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  15. Re:I'd plug it in. by Firehed · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Well, it worked with rootkits on CDs - there's no reason that autorun.inf won't work on thumb drives with spyware. So yes, we are suggesting that Windows will automatically run executables from any random USB device that gets plugged into the computer (in fact, outright stating it!).

    Having the security method of "Run autorun file spyware.exe?" when it's told to do so by an autorun file could go a LONG way here. I hate autorun passionately - it's useful in some cases, but it's just one giant security hole most of the time. I mean, would a mere prompt be that hard to implement?

    Of course this opens up a fun new possibility... bringing a USB drive to people's houses that'll have an autorun to set the browser homepage to goatse or something else equally "fun".

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  16. Don't disable anything by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Alright, I've read a lot of people saying "just disable USB devices". Someone said that everything should be locked down and that training people is useless.

    Disabling USB devices will not work. Even if you do it perfectly, that is, disable all storage devices but not keyboards, mice, etc. Why? Because CD-ROM drives have the exact same problem. I don't think floppy drives have any type of autorun function, but you can still put deceptive file names on them. Same problem with Email attachments.

    Now, go disable email, CD-ROMs, floppies, USB devices, and memory card readers at your office/school and see how much work actually gets done.

    You must either educate people, or restrict them to the point where they can't do their job in order to prevent your network from being infected. Given that the latter results in a huge loss of profit, I'd try to educate people.

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    1. Re:Don't disable anything by realmolo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unless they need to use the CDROM drive, floppy drive, USB devices, or memory cards to DO THEIR JOB, then they SHOULD be disabled.

      The fact is, in a business setting, the machines should be completely locked down so that users can do ONLY what they need to do, and nothing else.

      Of course, politics tend to prevent that from happening. But it is proper "procedure".

  17. Re:Pretty scary. by Dorothy+86 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sorry to bust your chops further, but the correct word would've been veritable, which implies metaphor. que sera sera.

  18. media changes, hoomannz stay the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Imagine years ago finding some old unlabeled old floppy disk, "hey, let's check it out!" I wonder how many folks got nailed with viruses that way over the years. In my entire computing career I got one virus, one time, and that was the reason, checking out some weird disk. learned my lesson I did.

      This on-purpose gambit is a variation on the time tested "sting" operation. Want to catch "drug dealers" and users? Be a narc and set yourself up as a bigger drug dealer, they do stuff like that daily. heck, the latest canadian so called 'terrorist' cell was infiltrated with cops and they setup the chemical fertilizer buys for them, according to latest embarassing leak-age being reported.

    With that said, very easy and slick social engineering. Even with this latest news tidbit, I bet you could go out tomorrow and pull off the same stunt. Want to up the ante, and really target the company or agency you want to nail, "lose" a laptop or PDA around there. You could even salt it with some nifty label on the outside "property of acme bigco or bigbrodotagency" or something like that, get some interest quick. The worker drone who found it might take it back to the shop with them, thinking a cow-orker "lost it". How about a guerilla zombiebot networking angle? Make cds with slick printed labels, assorted gamez! or triple xxx hardcore! "Lose" them by the hundreds hither and thon. People slap that disk in, nailed. You could even give them a few games or jpegs so it looked "legit" to them, they wouldn't even notice. Drop them around casually in high bucks high rent district someplace, nail the well heeled, steal CC numbers and passwords, etc. Lose disks like that where dotgov workers go to drink, you'd get some installs, humans being humans after all. Hecks a fire, I have seen some company trying this stuff with alleged "free internet minutes!" They used to mail me that stuff, AWOL or somesuch...

  19. Re:Pretty scary. by soren42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think that's correct... Most banks I know (and, as I work for a large one in a visible role in the industry, I know quite a few) have highly reliable, transaction-safe systems for tracking customer data. Additionally, there are many, many checks in place to ensure data accuracy. There's a reason all of the top 10 U.S. banks still keep all retail banking data on mainframes - it may be an outdated, outmoded platform, but it has decades of development and history. Everything has an audit log. Everything has non-repudiation.

    Security, on the other hand, is only something you can control at the system level. Measures such as mandatory information security training for all employees can help, but it's still up to each employee. As in every organization, the weakest link is people - social engineering is a risk everywhere.

    In the case of the worst, either way, an accuracy problem is less of an issue than a security issue, in most cases. As I stated, transactions are logged, everything can be verified. There is financial risk in cases of most accuracy problems, but they can usually be resolved with a correction and occasionally, compensation of potential loss to the customer. In the cases of security compromise - loss of customer data, malicious modification of transactions, theft, etc. - the risks are much higher. Reputation risk, loss of customer confidence, or worse - serious instability in the country's and the world's economy. There is no tranaction log for information theft.

    Please don't misunderstand me - both are very serious situations. The difference is, we can expect and avoid accuracy problem from years of experience and process. New information and computing security risks arise all the time. Banking transactions today are almost identical to what they were 25 years ago - just digital. No one even thought of USB drives with trojans on them 5 years ago.

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  20. Re:It's definitely a problem... by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reformat the USB key? The bottom line: It's a *WINDOWS* exploit. Get off of Microsoft products, and you don't have these problems. Businesses that continue to use Microsoft software are, plain and simple, asking for problems. Potentially, *MAJOR* financial problems. Stockholders should *DEMAND* that businesses stop using Microsoft products because they are a very strong potential liability.

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  21. Re:Pretty scary. by Nutria · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a reason all of the top 10 U.S. banks still keep all retail banking data on mainframes - it may be an outdated, outmoded platform, but it has decades of development and history. Everything has an audit log. Everything has non-repudiation.

    That doesn't sound outmoded to me...

    What they are is out of fashion to the "PC Generation" (the same people that share viruses like candy), but those are the stupid people, and there's nothing I can do about that.

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  22. Disabling USB drives is missing the point by InakaBoyJoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People love USB drives for good reasons. They make the data personal, tangible, an object that follows physical laws that users know intuitively. To an IT person, data is just ones and zeroes in some arbitrary physical medium. But to most users, there is a big difference between that letter you wrote last week disappearing into some network ether, versus residing on a physical USB drive you can hold in your hand.

    Most of the comments in this thread are of the "USB drives are a big security hole! Disable them!" variety. What a classic example of IT snobbery. A good administrator, one who understands his users, would stop to think WHY people use USB drives, and try to create a solution that balances the benefits vs. risk to the users.

    Along this line of reasoning, an ideal system would be a thin client that accepts USB drives for file storage, automagically backs them up when they are used, and doesn't run any executables other than what's configured. Kind of like the old Sun smart card idea where the user has a physical, tangible ID card where his files conceptually reside.

    If you want your users to respect your network security concerns, you first have to try to respect your users.

    1. Re:Disabling USB drives is missing the point by smash · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Most of the comments in this thread are of the "USB drives are a big security hole! Disable them!" variety. What a classic example of IT snobbery. A good administrator, one who understands his users, would stop to think WHY people use USB drives, and try to create a solution that balances the benefits vs. risk to the users.

      Keep in mind, we're not talking about mum+dad's small business here. We're talking about a financial institution. Disabling removable media should be fairly high up there on the list of things to do.

      Users require USB disks to work from home? No they don't.

      *IF* they need to work from home, provide a more secure solution (such as ISDN call-back, etc) to their house. Yes, this costs money, however see the point above regarding what sort of business this is.

      In the field we're talking about (dealing with people's finances), security isn't something you should be negotiating with your users just because it is a potential inconvenience.

      A small office in a different industry (where the only risk of monetary loss is your own)? Perhaps USB drives are an acceptable risk... Dealing with customer finances? No f*cking way...

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  23. Re:It's definitely a problem... by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Stockholders should *DEMAND* that businesses stop using Microsoft products because they are a very strong potential liability.

    Yes, because spending *HUGE* chunks of money to avoid a potential problem is what big business is all about...

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  24. Did the Auditors break the law by HerebeDragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they got a hit of 15/20 usb drives, but what happened to the other 5. If they scattered them in a public place, surely other members of the public could have picked them up and could have been compromised. This would put the auditors the wrong side of the law and they had no prior agreement to pentest the general public.

  25. Re:Pretty scary. by Stepping+Razor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the "of personal information" bit doesn't make it any less incorrect. it would just mean there was a real gold mine that also contained personal information. the grandparent might have been trying to make a funny, but it was most definitely correct.

  26. Re:Pretty scary. by indifferent+children · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Using the word "literal" metaphorically is like using the word "truth" falsely or the word "intelligent" stupidly.

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  27. Re:Pretty scary. by plague3106 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So than what exactly is a "gold mine of personal information"? Is the information etched in gold bricks? Its followed by "literal" but doesn't make sense taken literally, does it?

  28. Re:It's definitely a problem... by argStyopa · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's sort of interesting that 15 new devices made it in the building without anyone talking about it. "Hey, look what I found" "Mine is a gig!" "Me too!". They all put it in to see what's on it probably knowing it's against the rules and did it anyway.

    Thus the the counterintuitively high 'value' to a social engineer (read: con-man) of and administration PROHIBITING something that's human nature.

    Everyone will do it.
    Everyone knows they are not supposed to.
    Because it's 'wrong', nobody will tell anyone else.
    Thus even IF something is obviously wrong the inclination of the victim is to HIDE their own culpability for as long as possible, making the problem last much longer (until someone else notices) and the solution THAT much harder to implement.

    (Rube: Hm. I put in that USB drive I found on the ground outside, now my computer is beeping and the hard drive is grinding away and my email is now running REALLY slowly...yikes, I'm going to get in trouble, I'll just 'disappear' the drive, call IT, and tell them something's funny with my computer."
    (IT guy shows up) "Hi, what's up?"
    Rube: I dunno, it just started doing that...)

    [I'm against legalization, but there are strong parallels here to our Anti Drug laws, IMO.]

    Logically in the case of the USB drives, a more tolerant, understanding policy that accepts human nature would be more secure. Something like - we don't mind if you install stuff from home, just get it cleared with the IS dept first.

    You're still going to have rulebreakers, but if people don't think they're going to get in trouble for ANY violation, you have better conformance universally.

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