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Browser Tools Aim to Warn Surfers of Spyware, Spam

Carl Bialik from WSJ writes "New Web tools aim to protect surfers by flagging sites that are associated with viruses, spam or other scourges, but they sometimes disagree over whether a site is safe. From the article: 'Scandoo's service sometimes misses the mark in its efforts to flag adult content. On a recent day, it gave a green rating to the web site for Maxim Magazine's U.K. division, even though it contains nudity. It gave a red rating to the magazine's U.S. site, which contains no nudity. After an inquiry from the Online Journal, [executive Dan] Nadir said Scandoo decided to change the rating, reclassifying the U.K. site as red by default. "It was clear that it was misclassified, so we classified it correctly," Mr. Nadir said. A spokesman for Maxim Online said the discrepancy showed Scandoo's technology is "clearly broken."'"

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  1. I use this great tool for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's called my brain.

    1. Re:I use this great tool for this by patonw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      works for plain old domain names that only use characters you can find on a US keyboard, but with support for internationalized domain names with unicode that isn't going to work for much longer. A spoofer could substitute a non-ASCII character in place of an ascii one since some foreign alphabets have characters that look similar to ones in the plain old Roman alphabet. Though I guess the font used by your browser would be partially to blame. Still, don't think you're safe just because you can recognize that s145hd0t.org is a spoofed URL.

  2. Broken? by rworne · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Mr. Nadir said. A spokesman for Maxim Online said the discrepancy showed Scandoo's technology is "clearly broken."'"


    No, it may have something to do with what is acceptable regarding nudity in Europe vs the US. Bare breasts is not apparently a big deal with our friends across the pond, but over here, it's cause to bring out the torches and pitchforks. Besides, last I saw Maxim (the US version) it contained no real nudity at all.

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    1. Re:Broken? by foamrotreturns · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're definitely right. The scene in Eurotrip that depicts nudity in european advertising is not completely made up. Europeans are much more accustomed to nudity, and I imagine that a US version of Maxim would not sell as well in the UK because of this. For goodness sakes people, just because there's boobies doesn't mean there's spyware. There's a big difference, and if these people are redflagging Maxim, they're obviously just another NetNanny. Move along, nothing to see here.

  3. Google Safe Browsing by mishmash · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google Safe Browsing is a Firefox extension freely provided by google which warns of some dodgy sites.

    1. Re:Google Safe Browsing by I+Am+Defragged · · Score: 3, Informative

      Now rolled into Google Toolbar for Firefox.

    2. Re:Google Safe Browsing by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem with programs like this is that they simply can't catch everything. This in itself isn't bad until you have users which rely on them. Once users rely on these tools, they let their guard down, and they immediately trust anything that the tool says is okay instead of remaining suspicious.

      These are great tools, but they should add to personal judgement rather than replace it.

    3. Re:Google Safe Browsing by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Insightful
      These are great tools, but they should add to personal judgement rather than replace it.
      People seem to have left their personal judgement wherever they left their personal responsibility.
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  4. Re:Where's the Firefox Extension for this? by dhasenan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Better yet, where's the one that automatically directs me to red-rated sites?

  5. McAffee Site Advisor by Dragoonmac · · Score: 5, Informative

    Site Advisor is an awesome firefox plugin that not only displays whether the site you are at is currently "safe", it also puts a little green check, yello exclamation point, or red x next to popular search engine's results. If you want to see why a site got a certain rating, you can click the check/mark/x or if you're at the site, the colored bar in the bottom of your browser, to see what McAffee found out when they scanned and indexed the site.

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  6. Oh, not this again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    In Communist China, all web sites have Red flags...of one kind or another...

  7. Re:Maxim? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  8. * Warning! This site contains porn and spyware! * by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, that'll keep me off it.

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  9. the soviets... by PipeIsArt · · Score: 2, Funny

    In Soviet Russia, websites flag you!

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  10. Good gesture but IMO useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Creating safety on the Internet is not reached through the means of blacklists, spamlists and all that, this only reduces the problem to a minor degree thus allowing people to stick their head in the sand, sometimes totally unaware of whats really going on. If you really want to start making progress you'll be trying to make the people aware of the problem and point them to their responsibility when they logon to the Net.

    Not that it makes a big difference but the moment some people finally realize that when they're being sloppy with their computer it allows 3rd parties to compromise it resulting in abuse towards others. Even this isn't always enough ("so? as long as nothing happens to me, I got nothing to hide") so /also/ make them realize that their precious connection as well as their PC can also come to a grinding halt.

    Only after you've realized this will you have a good basis to take it to the next step, which is IMO actually setting up legal grounds for retaliation. But quite frankly I don't see this happening sometime soon. First due to the overhead, second the amount of money which is being made here on all levels (even the "good guys" trying to protect us really aren't moral knights or something) and finally.. Most people will remain stupid.

  11. First time... by BkBen7 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The first time I read the title I read it as

    Bowser Aims to Warn Surfers of Spyware, Spam

    sinse when does the king koopa care about me?

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  12. Excuse me if I'm not a prude . . . by npsimons · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But what the fuck does nudity have to do with spam and viruses? Can we cut the bullshit, and keep the anti-virus, anti-spam and I'm-a-prude-please-don't-expose-me-to-the-natural- world software separate? Some of us are grownups and just because we don't like spam or viruses doesn't me we disapprove of nudity.

  13. Siteadvisor is better by klept · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dont know if similar post made- though I would think so - but I checked Scandoo out using some search words, one of which was the notorious screensaver word. I have a Firefox browser and was using a Google search. Funny thing on the results. There were no warning signs next to the paid advertisment placements of Google ads. I use a similar service called Siteadvisor on my FF browser. For the word Screensaver, there are some red warnings for the Google ads, and on Scandoo none. Though I havent read the comments to this post, nor the Scandoos info / help section, I think it is very misleading to have no warnings on the Google ads where there should be a warning. I think many might assume because they are Google ads, Google has checked out these ads. -Know I would- Wnen in fact, I dont think Google does any such thing. If I am misinformed, or there is something I dont realize, please let me know. But imho, I think Siteadvisor would be a much safer choice. Perhaps one could use both Scandoo and Siteadvisor to check out a site. Siteadvisor has an untested tag for a number of new sites. Maybe Scandoo has a rating. Otherwise I dont see the advantage in using this over Siteadvisor.

  14. Re:Where's the Firefox Extension for this? by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Informative
  15. Well, on the other hand by grasshoppa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Scuttle just inadvertently slashdotted maxim UK.

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  16. Gossip Folks by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's just like hearing that girl you have your eye on has crabs, while you're spraying yourself with chemicals for no reason, the guy that told you that is bangin her.

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  17. They just don't care by Jesus+IS+the+Devil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This kind of tool is cool and all, but it doesn't solve all problems. There are a bunch of users out there who surf the internet with the "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT" attitude, on purpose. These people download anything and everything with absolute disregard. Why do they do this? Here are some of the bigger reasons:

    1) It's not their computer (their employer's, internet cafe's, school's, library's, etc.) so they don't care.

    2) They go around with the thinking, "I'm nobody important, so why would they hack me? They only hack VIPs."

    These users are JUST AS BIG a problem as the hackers, phishers, and scammers, for they enable and encourage botnets, theft, etc. Too often these idiot end users and incompetent systems admins are left alone. I say we go for a "tough love" policy. F*ck around the net? Get your computer/network completely blocked. Want to get it unblocked? Read a long-ass pamphlet regarding the safeguarding of your computer/network, take a quiz, and sign a paper agreeing to follow stricter guidelines. If you get warned repeatedly, you're either fined or taken offline permanently.

    Now THAT, would get everyone's attention, and force morons off the net, where they don't belong.

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  18. Re:I am confused by Harker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not only that, but...

    It might just turn your computers floppy drive, into a stiffy...

    H.

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