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SCO to Unix developers, We want you back

NoGuffCheck writes "CRN is reporting that Darl McBride is looking to get Unix developers back onboard with cash incentives for completing training in SCO's new mobile application kit; EdgeBuilder. It doesn't stop there; there's a 12-cylinder BMW or $100,000 dollars for the development of the best wireless application."

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  1. Ah, but there's a catch... by Joey+Patterson · · Score: 5, Funny

    * All developers are required to pay their $699 SCO licensing fees at the door.

    1. Re:Ah, but there's a catch... by The+Snowman · · Score: 5, Funny
      All developers are required to pay their $699 SCO licensing fees at the door.

      It isn't a licensing fee. It's the price of paying the SCO lottery! For the low low price of $699, you have a chance at one of several fabulous prizes including $100k, a luxury car, and a night of terror on Darl's private yacht complete with built-in dungeon! Fun for the whole family!

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      24 beers in a case, 24 hours in a day. Coincidence? I think not!
    2. Re:Ah, but there's a catch... by gbulmash · · Score: 5, Funny

      Luring a developer to code for your products: $100,000 and a BMW.
      Finding out developers still hate you passionately: Priceless

      - G

    3. Re:Ah, but there's a catch... by Goblez · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Hahaha, this is the truth right here. Who else read this title and thought (In the words of the great Borat) "F*#k To You". Alienate the whole *nix community, and then try to bribe them back. That'll ensure you get the 'right' people on your team.

      Well . . . maybe right for SCO

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      - Kal`Goblez
    4. Re:Ah, but there's a catch... by IAmTheDave · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Aw, baby... look, you know I didn't mean to hurt you. It's just... sometimes I get so angry. You make me really angry sometimes. But I love you - I love you. I won't hurt you again, I PROMISE. I'm going to get help.

      "Yeah, I know it's happened before, but it won't happen again - I swear! Come back home baby."

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      Excuse my speling.
      Making The Bar Project
    5. Re:Ah, but there's a catch... by peragrin · · Score: 5, Informative

      In order to get that car you need to sign a contract with SCO. Any code you develop belongs to SCO because any code that runs on unix is a derivative work. Oh and Contracts are what you use againist your friends.

      Yes SCO is claiming such things in both the court of public opinion and sometimes in the court as well.

      Any laid off developer would be better off collecting unemployment and staying out of SCO's lawyers reach.

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      i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
    6. Re:Ah, but there's a catch... by alexfromspace · · Score: 5, Funny

      Exactly. Furthermore, if you read the fine print on the other side of the second appendix to the last page of the contract, it says that SCO, in addition to owning you, will also own your wife, children, dog, truck and home, because they are all your derivatives. Although the wife has a legal option to divorce and seek custody of the children, the SCO also realises that this may be bound by any prenuptual agreements, and they reserve the right to challenge any such 'weak' and 'inconvincing' prenuptual agreement in various courts.

    7. Re:Ah, but there's a catch... by badasscat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who else read this title and thought (In the words of the great Borat) "F*#k To You".

      I just thought it must have been missing a few words:

        SCO to Unix developers: We want (to shoot) you (in the) back

  2. Let me be the first to say by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

    BWA HA HAHA

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    No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
  3. monkeyboy by namekuseijin · · Score: 5, Funny

    "developer, developers, developers..."

    use the Ballmer mantra, Darl. you have to sweat like a pig to convince your audience...

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    I don't feel like it...
  4. Ring Tones? by neonprimetime · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "SCO has gone through some rocky times. It's been a real roller coast ride the last few years," McBride said. But SCO is now focused on making mobile business transactions easier to implement. Ring tones for cell phones has become a $1 billion market, McBride noted.

    So they go from something meaningful to Ring Tones? That's one crazy roller coaster.

    1. Re:Ring Tones? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think this really shows McBride's level of understanding of the business he runs.

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      This guy's the limit!
  5. UNIX Developers to SCO: by tokki · · Score: 5, Funny

    Go fuck yourself.

  6. Re:What a waste by tomstdenis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dude, most people will do anything for a buck. It's why we have shitty products on the shelves, crap service at every turn, etc, etc. I'm certain SCO could score an entire division of developers within weeks if they simply offer cash money.

    that doesn't mean we have to buy what SCO is selling though!

    Tom

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    Someday, I'll have a real sig.
  7. Obligatory article nitpicks... by ThinkingInBinary · · Score: 5, Informative
    Linux is an open-source version of Unix designed for Intel chips.

    No, it's a clone of Unix, and it is no longer designed only for Intel chips. It was originally designed just for the 386, but now runs on anything, including your toaster.

    SCO is now concentrating on allowing businesses to create "biztones for quick distribution of business information, tied to business applications."

    What the hell is a "biztone"?! Is it some sort of ringtone for your cell phone where instead of ringing it goes, "Yeah, um, about those TPS reports..."?

  8. They're prepping for the shareholder lawsuit by wiredlogic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is inevitable that there will be a shareholder lawsuit as SCO makes its final circles around the drain before bankruptcy or liquidation. Darth Darl needs to make it look like he made his best effort at keeping the company afloat to have a chance of keeping all of his money.

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    I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
  9. Lost trust by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I don't think they will be able to find enough developers that will trust them. They're already trying to steal the work of countless others, the sentiment goes, why would we try to do business with them again?

    This is why their former customers are not going to be future customers, unless they're badly locked in on some 3rd party software. And non-customers will never become customers. Who wants to do business with somebody who'll sue you for moving to a competitor's product? It's like getting divorced from a gold-digger.

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    This is not my sandwich.
  10. Well... by Cleon · · Score: 5, Funny

    You gotta give 'em credit. It looks like SCO is finally trying to produce something more substantial than subpoenas.

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  11. Maybe Darl has something... by Target+Practice · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those darn CRN folks, always leaving parts of the quotes out. Here's a reprint, I put Darl's original comments missing from the report in '[]'.

    "During the last 25 years, SCO has been committed to [destroying the reputability of] the Unix platform and continues to reaffirm its commitment [to make fools of ourselves while the rest of the world actually accomplishes something useful]," Darl McBride, SCO president, said in a teleconference Tuesday morning.

    I applaud him for finally admitting what his company has been doing. Of course, he can shove his BMWs up his /dev/null.

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    There's a 68.71% chance you're right.
  12. Sorry SCO by Mancat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not 1994 anymore. Nobody uses UnixWare or OpenServer. Those that do, probably want out as fast as possible. Your products are obsolete: Your hardware support sucks. Standards implementation sucks. Didn't you just get USB support in UnixWare a couple of years ago? Nobody is even worrying about whether or not their software will compile on your operating systems these days. You've alienated the entire Unix market systematically.

    You're DEAD. Get over it. File chapter 11 and liquidate those assets already.

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    hello dear sirs my name is jamesh i are india (bihar) can u guide me install red had linux 9?
    1. Re:Sorry SCO by irenaeous · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You are absolutely right. I worked on SCO systems as a contractor for TACO BELL for a few years programming and maintaining their back of house software used on PC's in the store. They had an effort to create a windows based in-store system, but that has been abandoned. Now, they are porting their back of house applications to SUSE Linux with a view to getting off of SCO systems as soon as they can. The same is true, I believe for their fellow Yum brands company, Pizza Hut.

      This latest move by SCO is desperation -- trying to find some new market in which to stay alive while their bread and butter UnixWare and OpenServer business withers and dies. SCO is going down.

  13. bmw, huh? by vortigern00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The winner of the bmw may notice that no matter how many times he washes it... it just won't come clean.

  14. Re:MySQL is sponsoring this?! WTF?! by FreeUser · · Score: 5, Interesting

    HP, I could care less about (their computers are cheap, and their calculators are nothing like they used to be), but I thought that MySQL had a decent set of morals. The fact that they could maintain enterprise support while still offering an open-source version is an indication of that.

    I'm confused by this post. I just have to ask you to clarify...

    Are you saying that MySQL is immoral/evil because they *gasp* charge for some things they invest time and money to develop, or is my sarcasm meter broken?


    No, I think he means mysql is evil because they are sponsoring SCO's disgusting attempt to buy their way out of the history books and back into mainstream corporate and technology circles. I happen to agree...MySQL is more evil than companies like HP et.al. for the very reason he cited: they are in the free software community, they know the issues, and they certainly cannot be ignorant of how Darl McBride and SCO tried to steal GNU/Linux from its creators (yes, steal, because if McBride et.al. had succeeded in their fraud, the creators of the Linux kernel, and perhaps the wider GNU community, would have been denied the right to legally use their own creations), and they've chosen to sponsor this despite that knowledge. At least a big company like HP may not have followed this (all the SCO bruhaha could be beneath their radar).

    I agree that sponsoring an evil knowing its full implications is an act of greater maliciousness than sponsoring an evil in ignorance of its full implications, and MySQL certainly appears to fall in the former category.

    It's a pity...I actually like their product. Time to give postgres a gander I suppose.

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  15. Re:What a waste by malraid · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO should make a reality show. A reality show about a company going to the ruin. Then we could get people to call in (1-900 number of course) to decide who they are going to sue next. I'm sure it'll be a hit. In fact, I'm of to the patent office right now. That's about the only way I see them making any money.

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    please excuse my apathy
  16. Dear SCO by vinn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dear SCO:

    We don't like you. You don't play well with the other children on the playground. We think you're mean and we're not going to let you play dodgeball with us at recess.

    Besides that, your products are pretty awful. The only redeeming quality of Caldera Linux was that it was based on RedHat. That made it really easy to completely dump your distribution and go to RedHat when you guys got out of the Linux game. Your OpenServer product is the the most god awful piece of crap ever sold. It's so painful to work on that I'd rather just gouge out my eyes with a spoon.

    Please just go away.

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    ----- obSig
  17. Re:Not worth it. by brilliant-mistake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'd never see the 100k anyhow. They're a bunch of con artists. They'd take your work and turn around and sue you probably.

  18. Where's the upside? by CodeMasterPhilzar · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Let me see...

    I suppose I could develop an app on either my Red Hat or Suse boxes, then port it over to SCO. But you know, I'll just bet I'd have to pay about $700 for that "privilege."

    Then I'd submit it... I'll bet buried in the "contest" rules somewhere is a clause about their getting rights to use or expand on any or all submissions. So my IP would essentially become theirs.

    The only even remotely "up" side of this is that I'll bet my app would stand a fair chance of winning just 'cause there'll be so few entries.

    On second thought, maybe I'll just go buy $695 worth of lottery tickets and a six pack...

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    --- Just another Code-Monkey
  19. Re:What a waste by gbulmash · · Score: 5, Informative

    What I would like to know is why is HP & MySQL helping to finance this?!? What a way to get company blacklisted - especially a GPL project.

    I looked at TFA, the SCO contest site, the SCO site, and NONE of it said MySQL or HP was sponsoring this contest. It did say there would be MySQL and HP training at the SCO forum, but that doesn't mean that the training is provided by or sponsored by those companies.

    SCO is trying to promote its alternative to LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) with SCAMP (SCO, Apache, etc.). But because it can easily acquire and redistribute all of these components under the GPL and even offer its own support and training for them, it can make things look official when they're really not.

    I'd need some more evidence than an unsupported post on /. that MySQL is giving any aid or comfort to the enemy before I started modifying my opinion of the company or their software.

    - G

  20. 3 E-Z steps to SCO ressurection - serious by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Step 1: drop silly lawsuits
    Step 2: apologize
    Step 3: Entire executive team and anyone else who supported the lawsuits resign and disgourge yourself from any lawsuit-related profits, such as profits from short-selling.

    Do that, and I'll consider helping them out. Until then, they are blackballed.

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    Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
  21. Two bottles of whining. by SlashdotTroll · · Score: 5, Funny

    two re-hired SCO developers telnet to the SCO server after a night in the basement.

    arroot: so...
    SCOdev: what?
    arroot: how 'bout scheduling a grep job to see if there is any SCO IP in Linux?
    SCOdev: are you crazy?  what if the server is logging and the resource throttle triggers an alarm to the CEO?
    arroot: but I love you so much.
    SCOdev: it's too risky.
    arroot: pleeeeease?

    *login*

    IBMdev: SEC said it's "ok" to give the AIX repository a grep job, or SEC will come down to perform a grep job, or I can do it.  But for Gates' sakes don't use /bin/wall to echo your chat to all the terminals.

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    I am the nightmare of nightmares.

  22. Not me by waif69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I still have SCO on 5 1/4" disks. Now if I can only find my 5 1/4" drive...

  23. Darl McBride - may you rot in hell by pbegley · · Score: 5, Informative

    Darl -

    Hi, its Paul. You don't remember me because you weren't associated with SCO at the time, but I was an SCO developer and beta tester 'back in the day'. I ran a public access SCO UNIX system in Philadelphia. I (helped) run the UNIX SIG on CompuServe and converted a bunch of applications so they ran on SCO platforms. On the commercial side, SCO UNIX ran construction management and engineering procurement software for a $500MM project (it no longer runs on SCO).

    Not any more, Darl. That ship has sailed. I'm a 50 year old, bald, bearded engineer and I'm mad as hell at you Darl. I will do anything in my power to make sure you fail. I grep'ed through old source code just to find prior art (and I still have source from 1984).

    I'm not alone Darl. We are the decision makers now. Money and cars don't cut it. Your goin' down, Darl, and the harder the better.

    Your pal,
    Paul