Slashdot Mirror


AT&T Rewrites Privacy Policy

VikingThunder writes "The San Francisco Chronicle reports that AT&T has revamped its privacy policy, in an effort to head off future consumer lawsuits, with changes taking effect this Friday. AT&T is introducing a new policy that gives it more 'latitude' when it comes to sharing your browsing history with government agencies. Notable changes include notification that AT&T will track viewing habits of customers of its new video services Homezone and U-Verse, which is forbidden for cable and satellite companies, as well as explicitly stating that the customer's data belongs to the company: 'While your account information may be personal to you, these records constitute business records that are owned by AT&T. As such, AT&T may disclose such records to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process.'"

16 of 316 comments (clear)

  1. It's time to take action. by evileyetmc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, I knew it wasn't going to be long before companies decided to openly admit that playing politics was more important than treating their customers right. Agreed that they had been playing politics in the past *cough* Bush's domestic wiretapping *cough*, but only now are they confirming that and trying to save their behinds from lawsuits like the kind the EFF has filed for unwarranted wiretaps.
    This is exactly the treachery that leads to companies going under...You f*ck the consumer, you get f*cked right back.

    I say call up your local congressman/woman and tell them that you want the Cable Communications Policy Act of 1984 to include provisions for all methods of distributing content, including IPTV. Also explain to them that your privacy is important to you and that you want them to support as many privacy bills as they can.

    Of course, if that doesn't work, just ditch AT&T. I know there is enough competition out there to cripple them. Alas, you might end up paying a bit more, but think of it as the price you pay for privacy, and consumer-friendliness.

    1. Re:It's time to take action. by harrkev · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Of course, if that doesn't work, just ditch AT&T.
      I currently do not use AT&T. However...

      Anytime anybody calls me using AT&T, my phone number appears in those records. And since I am not an AT&T customer, I have not agreed to their privacy policy. Is there any legal remedy for this?
      --
      "-1 Troll" is the apparently the same as "-1 I disagree with you."
    2. Re:It's time to take action. by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful
      This is exactly the treachery that leads to companies going under...You f*ck the consumer, you get f*cked right back.

      Well, it's a nice theory. In practice, it doesn't mean a damned thing. Cranky consumers can't do anything to a company like AT&T, not really.

      If you explicitly refuse this new privacy policy, do you really believe that will cause them to purge your records? No, they're gonna retain what they have already even if it violates their previous policy.

      What if you can't change? Live in a place where there is exactly one provider of broadband? Think you'll give up your high-speed just to try and punish AT&T? (And if you do, they're gonna keep what they have.)

      Now that they've said this, and now that they're gonna track everything, your assent to their privacy policy will become irrelevant.

      Since they operate much of the backbone, what is to stop them from passing on information about people with whom they don't actually have a current/past business relationship? Nothing, they'll still be passing on their routing data which covers people who could not possibly have consented to the privacy policy. International data gets routed through AT&Ts trunks.

      Hell, I live in a whole different country (Canada), and my cell-phone company (Rogers) is associated with AT&T. Which probably means that some if not all of my own damned information is probably going to flow south of the border. Which fscking Congressman am I going to fskcing contact to complain about this? Oh, wait, that would be absolutely fsking noone, that's who.

      Do you think the government is going to legislate/intervene/say anything? They want this kind of things more than ever. If a company makes you sign a contract that says "we can do anything we want", the current administration has only to gain from this. They're more than happy to extend the territoriatility of their laws with little regard -- despite that if any other country tried to extend their laws in the same way, the US would be screaming bloody murder.

      AT&T's decision to do this affects way more people than the number of people who are going to be asked to agree to this privacy policy. It's probably going affect me personally, and I don't have a business relationship with them. And probably a whole lot of other people.
      --
      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    3. Re:It's time to take action. by hackstraw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Anytime anybody calls me using AT&T, my phone number appears in those records. And since I am not an AT&T customer, I have not agreed to their privacy policy. Is there any legal remedy for this?

      All "privacy policies" are bullshit. They all say at the end of them something in legalese like: "We reserve the right to change our mind at any time".

      Personally, I believe that _WE_ as individuals should create our own privacy policy and make businesses/corps sign it.

      The problem is that no business or corporation or whatever would sign our privacy policy. The rights of individuals have been officially lost as far as I can tell.

    4. Re:It's time to take action. by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Informative
      "Does Vonage encrypt their traffic?"

      I dunno...but, if you want to make their tracking data useless for you...start trying to encrypt ALL your internet traffic.

      Grant it....it will slow you up a bit, but, will make you far less traceable. Set up anon. browsing, set up nym accounts for email...that will help your mail at least be encrypted, even from those who don't know how to use pgp.

      In general, also start trying to use SSH and vpns for most everything you do....it is a bit slower and PITA, but, might be worth it in the end, considering this new policy, and the govt's recent attempts to get ALL ISP's to "voluntarilly" keep all internet access records stored for 2 years.
      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    5. Re:It's time to take action. by voice_of_all_reason · · Score: 5, Informative

      Except in this case, where the german police decided acting "inconspicious" was suspicious in and of itself:

      http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?t ype=worldFootballNews&storyID=2006-06-06T201822Z_0 1_L06509705_RTRIDST_0_SPORT-SOCCER-WORLD-STRIPSEAR CH.XML

    6. Re:It's time to take action. by greg_barton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hate to say this, but the only way to stop this is through gov intervention (I wont say regulation because I hate regulation)

      Ain't it funny how folks hate regulation until they want something regulated?

      Welcome to the left side of the aisle, buddy. I hope you don't hate Liberals. You're one of us now. :)

  2. Reminding you once again... by Jerf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reminding you once again that any privacy policy that includes the clause that it can be changed at any time with minimal notification and no consent is no privacy policy at all.

    (To be fair, the linked policy does have a nod towards "materially different" changes to the privacy policy. But guess who decides what "materially different" is...?)

  3. Time for the Privacy Act by Mad+Dog+Manley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As such, AT&T may disclose such records to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process.'"

    Don't you see, AT&T is doing this for you, the valued customer. It is in your best interests. Don't you want to be kept safe from the evil0rz criminals?

    In Canada, the Privacy Act restricts the ability of corporations to share private information. Admittedly it's not perfect, but it appears to be better than what exists in the United States.

    1. Re:Time for the Privacy Act by Mad+Dog+Manley · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They're not protecting their customers, they're protecting themselves.

      That's not all. The wording in the old privacy policy said:

      the company "may disclose your information in response to subpoenas, court orders, or other legal process to the extent required and/or permitted by law"

      New policy:

      the company "may disclose your information in response to subpoenas, court orders, or other legal process"

      Looks like the law isn't important to them anymore.

  4. Perfect opportunity for me to get off my duff. by (H)elix1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With my bride and I both using cell phones as our primary line, I've put off canceling them on my POTS line for long distance service. Well no more - the $8USD/month (was $3, but it looks like it jumped up with extra fees) just to have the service is not a lot of cash, but at least I'll get a chance to give AT&T a big old FU and the horse you road in on. The rep had the brass to say this was something to strengthen my 'privacy', then started on a song and dance about September 11th.

    For those in the US, 1-800-222-0300 option 6 gets you where you need to go. Expect a 30 minute (or more) wait time.

    Fuckers...

  5. Re:How is this legal? by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, 10 years ago the only people worried about privacy were those crazy militia guys in Montana. Nowadays, they not only seem sane, but increasingly look like geniuses!

    --

    "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

  6. a big BEND OVER to any percieved competitors by Thud457 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I have changed the agreement. Pray I don't change it further."

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  7. Re:VOIP modem to Out of country ISP? by Oswald · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, it's interesting, but it kind of misses the point. I don't have anything to hide from the NSA; that's not why I want them to stop spying on Americans. I want them to stop spying on Americans because stopping is the right, legal thing to do. Attempting to circumvent their procedures might give be fun in a "stickin' it to the man" sort of way, but it doesn't really take us where we want to go.

  8. Corporate Espionage by W.Mandamus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "While your account information may be personal to you, these records constitute business records that are owned by AT&T. As such, AT&T may disclose such records to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process."

    So lets see:
    If I work at AT&T and a headhunter calls me at work or at home the corporation to check my phone records to "protect its legitimate business interests".

    If I am a competitor of AT&T's, AT&T can find out what VC's I've been calling to "protect its legitimate business interests".

    If I am sueing AT&T, AT&T can check my phone records to find out when I called my lawyer to "protect its legitimate business interests".

    If I sign a contract with AT&T to provide me with my competitors phone records AT&T can do it to "protect its legitimate business interests".

    You know if I were in charge of secruity for a major corporation I would be extremely worried about this.

  9. Re:Effective tool by PDHoss · · Score: 5, Funny

    you could just show some evidence that the person may be linked to a terrorist organization, and wahlah, you have a warrant

    TERRORIST KEYWORD PROBABILITY: 92.89% IP LOGGED. FEDERAL FISTING IMMINENT.
    --
    ======================================
    Writers get in shape by pumping irony.