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An IE-Based Tabbed Browser from China

wannabgeek writes "CNET reports that a new browser, Maxthon is gaining wide popularity in China. 14 percent of Chinese websurfers have used it ... Part of the reason, it has features that help in circumventing the Chinese government censors. CNET says it was shown at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas this year, and is slowly gaining foothold in Europe as well as the U.S."

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  1. Wait until PETA hears about *this*... by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Funny

    "CNET reports that a new browser, Maxthon is gaining wide popularity in China. 14 percent of Chinese websurfers have used it ... Part of the reason, it has features that help in circumventing the Shinese government censors. CNET says it was shown at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas this year, and is slowly gaining foothold in Europe as well as the U.S."

    First, women slaving away making iPods. Now, they've got trained dogs doing their network censorship. This could have an impact on Shinese-American relations.

    Where will it end?

    Perhaps China will start using Slashdot editors to proofread the English versions of official propaganda for spelling and grammar! That's almost like trained dogs!

    1. Re:Wait until PETA hears about *this*... by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny
      Perhaps China will start using Slashdot editors to proofread the English versions of official propaganda for spelling and grammar! That's almost like trained dogs!

      OTOH, there is a major difference; you can probably train dogs to actually catch such errors...

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    2. Re:Wait until PETA hears about *this*... by denttford · · Score: 2, Interesting
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  2. IE Based, huh? by Goblez · · Score: 3, Funny

    So that means that the goverment can exploit it to add censoring? Won't that be a switch from what we're used to?

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  3. Grathiath by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Funny

    If all you have to do is lisp to avoid Chinese government censors to connect Chinese people to the rest of the planet, then Spain is going to take over the world again.

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  4. Re:them pesky dogs by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one (as a Chinese person) welcome our new Shinese puppy overlords...

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  5. Engrish? by thoughtlover · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...features that help in circumventing the Shinese government censors."

    Hrm. It almost sounds like one of our Engrish-reading friends submitted this story from behind the Great Firewall of Shina.

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  6. Raccoon Slashdotter by operagost · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ooh... Shinese!

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  7. New browser? by transwarp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maxthon hasn't been new for a long time. In fact, the only thing in the article I hadn't heard a million times already was that it's made by a Chinese company. And this "parallels" feature they're working on--sounds like MDI.

    1. Re:New browser? by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Informative

      Amen, tagged this 'oldnews' as soon as I saw it. I remember seeing this browser at least a year ago. I'm pretty sure they just use the IE ActiveX control; from there, you can pretty much do anything. Tags would seem (on first glance, without doing any research) to be pretty trivial to implement.

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    2. Re:New browser? by Incoherent07 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I actually in some ways preferred Maxthon's interface to Firefox's, at least out of the box, but I could never get the Gecko support working, so I switched as well.

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    3. Re:New browser? by kukyfrope · · Score: 4, Informative

      I use Maxathon on my computers with tiny amounts of RAM, like my old 866mhz 128mb machine that runs WindowsXP. I've got a minimalistic install of WindowsXP on it and use it for only browsing the web. Firefox was too slow on that machine with how many tabs I like to open up, yet with Maxathon I had open 30 tabs and in task manager, it was only using about 15-20mb of RAM.

      The main pitfalls of the app are it's still based on IE so the DOM Firefox support isn't there, and while Maxathon has an "AdBlock" like feature, Firefox's is cleaner and collapses the page where graphics previously were, while Maxathon keeps the ad space open and blank. And it still isn't great about handling file opening (torrent especially).

      Overall it's a great little browser and on old machines I can live with its few features I wish worked differently in exchange for super low memory usage.

  8. A new browser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Maxthon's been around for years. It used to be called MyIE.

    1. Re:A new browser? by m85476585 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was actually called MyIE2, and why was that modded funny?

    2. Re:A new browser? by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, it was simply renamed.

      And the copyright notice on the website is from 1999, which sounds about right to me.

      CNET has been smoking something good in this case.

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  9. CNET: all the news that's fit to subjugate by pelican66 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why doesn't CNET just come out and give the Chinese government the IP addresses of every Chinese websurfer using Maxthon? Better yet, the company's in Beijing - why not just throw a street address up there? Of course, if the web is censored in China, then the censors aren't reading unfiltered CNET in English, are they? Naaaaaah!

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  10. Re:It's an addon and hardly new by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Very True. It used to be called MyIE, and was renamed. It's an add-on for Internet Explorer, and has Asian language support front and center. That's why it's so popular in China. First thing it asks when you start the install is what language you want to use.

    It's not too bad, except that it's pretty cluttered, and it's still MSIE.

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  11. Shape & Color? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Browsers are very much like a car," said Jacobsson. "Most people don't care what engine is inside, (they) choose which type fits, with the right shape and color."

    Yes, I use Opera because it's round & red.

  12. Maxthon, Not New by Webz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Maxthon isn't all that new. Long time users know it as MyIE2.

    If you've ever wondered what a browser with an IE-engine and tabs that didn't suck is like, try Maxthon. It's really lightweight.

    For development purposes and sometimes just pure speed (IE feels faster than Firefox sometimes), I keep a copy on my machines alone Firefox.

    1. Re:Maxthon, Not New by DeafByBeheading · · Score: 3, Insightful
      wondered what a browser with an IE-engine... that didn't suck is like

      Mod parent oxymoronic.

      And no, I'm not trolling. Most of IE's problems are due to its engine.
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    2. Re:Maxthon, Not New by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod parent oxymoronic.

      And no, I'm not trolling. Most of IE's problems are due to its engine.


      While it's true that third-party browsers using Trident are vulnerable to the same security flaws as IE (and, of course, share the same CSS and other rendering bugs), there are a number of flaws in IE that are corrected by third-party browsers.

      Because third-party browsers don't support IE toolbars, they aren't as affected by spyware. Third-party browsers generally have search boxes, tabs, and other features that IE lack.

      And, quite frankly, saying that IE "sucks" ignores the reality of the situation.

      From a developer's perspective, IE "sucks" because it means that I have to bend over backwards to support IE's broken CSS implementation (although, to be honest, the CSS standard sucks in many ways anyway). But even if IE stopped "sucking" in this regard tomorrow, it wouldn't make a bit of difference to me - as a user, IE's crappy CSS support doesn't really affect me (because developers work around it), and as a developer, I'm still going to have to develop for IE6 because it will represent a significant portion of my users for years to come.

      But from a user's perspective, IE isn't really that bad. From a security perspective, it's subpar, but IE has greatly improved in that regard since SP2. Users neither know nor care whether their browser has decent CSS2 support.

  13. Re:So what, it's windows only... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    There's no linux version, unless I missed something, if that's the case, mod this down. Otherwise, does anyone have it working in wine?

    You should be modded down as redundant anyway, because the title of the story begins "An IE-Based" [...] which makes it quite fucking clear that it's Windows-only, since IE/mac is gone, gone, gone.

    If linux users want to run it, they can do it in vmware on a pirated copy of windows like everyone else.*

    *Actually, I only run Windows 98 in my vmware right now, and I actually have a license for it... but this is a statistical anomaly.

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  14. Re:So what, it's windows only... by ranolen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You do know that there is more to the computer world then linux. Windows has a perfectly fine place here.

  15. Fun With Statistics by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting


    From TFA:

    According to Maxthon research, about 14 percent of the Chinese Web population has used the browser and 17 percent employs it for Web search.
    So...3 percent of the Chinese Web population employs the Maxthon browser for Web search without having used it?
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    1. Re:Fun With Statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      no, I think it means 17% out of the 14% that use it.

  16. Ok guys, get over it. by DoctorDyna · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You are all falling over yourselves comically to point out the fact that sombody said "shinese". It's not that funny.

    Out of all you wonderfully articulate people, nobody has anything interesting to say? I think this kinda squashes a huge mis conception that most of the Slashdot community seems to have, that is only people who don't know any better want anything to do with IE. Obviously, these people who created this aren't newbs.

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  17. It's been known to be safer than IE by baadger · · Score: 2, Informative

    On occasion the authors of Maxthon have hacked in third party protection against zero day exploits. I can't be arsed finding the reference, but I thought i'd mention it since this is such an uninteresting news post.

  18. In Communist China.... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Browser tabs YOU!

    1. Re:In Communist China.... by mfaras · · Score: 3, Funny

      In communist china, search engines search YOU!

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  19. USED it? by clragon · · Score: 4, Interesting
    14 percent of Chinese websurfers have used it
    have used it? I've used countless softwares in the past, but the ones that I continue to use is only a fraction of that. Just because a Chinese websurfer have used it once does not mean they thought it was a good software and continued to use it. IMO some more evidence should be provided before saying this internet browser it is "gaining wide popularity in China"
  20. Re:So what, it's windows only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    You're an idiot.

    With that out of the way, Opera doesn't use any part of IE at all. Hell, it barely even uses Windows libraries, since the UI is built using Qt.

    Opera uses as much IE as Firefox uses IE: practically none. (Practically because some people might consider opening downloaded files in the Windows shell to be part of IE - namely Microsoft lawyers when trying to prove that IE is a core part of Windows.)

  21. Re:So what, it's windows only... by bunions · · Score: 2, Informative

    just for completeness: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html Explore all your internets from loonix. Works pretty well, except tooltips show up as fully-decorated windows.

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  22. This isn't new... by Mark+LeMunyon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Maxthon is not new, and it's not a browser iteself. Its just a shell for IE.

  23. TorPack? by aymanh · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Maxthon, a browser made by a tiny Beijing company of the same name, has attracted millions of users in China for functionality that can funnel traffic through a Web proxy and circumvent government controls on information in search engines like Google, Yahoo, MSN, Baidu.com and other popular sites or Internet service providers in that country.
    Neither the article nor Maxthon's feature list go into the details of how this feature is implemented, does it simply provide a list of open proxy and an easy way to switch to one of them? Or is it something more sophisticated? Anyone tried this feature?

    I wonder if Chinese users are aware of TorPack, it is Tor + portable Firefox + some extensions. Being Firefox-based, it can benefit from the wide range of extensions available, and is arguably more secure.
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  24. Maxthon Access ? by Brit_in_the_USA · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I see on the Maxthon web site a related product called "Maxthon Access". Does anyone have any addtional information /reviews about this product?
    It looks like it offers "PC Anywhere" features, but the Maxthin browser is a required component (?).
    Has anyone used it and could comment?
    Is it safe / secure?
    Any (known) spyware / back doors to it?

  25. Maxthon can use Gecko as well? by aymanh · · Score: 5, Informative
    It looks like Maxthon isn't entirely IE-based, its Wikipedia entry suggests that it can use the Gecko engine as well (which is the same rendering engine used by Firefox):
    Maxthon (formerly MyIE2) (pronounced "max-ton") is a freeware browser. It uses Trident, the same layout engine used by Internet Explorer as its default layout engine, but can use the Gecko technology used in Mozilla Firefox as well.
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  26. You know what is sad by fullphaser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is that a third party browser like that could gain such a sizable market share in china that quickly, granted its still IE but they are seeking out browsers none the less. Whats that say about the US & internationally, which still reports firefox and other 3rd party browsers at no more than 10% according to some studies (I can't remember the link right now)
    Hey mabye China has got something right?

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  27. Re:them pesky dogs by Cheapy · · Score: 2, Funny

    They'd probably run the country better too...

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  28. Re:The poor man's IE7 by n101 · · Score: 2, Informative

    It works fine with the IE7 core too, so it's as security as IE is. Most (if not all) features that IE7 has will be added to Maxthon 2.0, which will probably be out before IE7.

  29. avant browser by toirdnim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Avant Browser is another tabbed browser based on the IE engine. I prefer firefox for most of my browsing, but I use avant when I have to load up my company's intranet site, which breaks in firefox.

    1. Re:avant browser by Ant+P. · · Score: 3, Informative

      Firefox can be an IE shell too, you know.

  30. It can also use Gecko by Zarel · · Score: 2, Informative

    It used to be called MyIE2, not MyIE. It also has the ability to use Gecko (the Firefox rendering engine), too. I'm surprised no one's brought that up yet.

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  31. How ironic by j1mc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wait, so this shelled version of IE exploits security holes??

  32. Proxy by sxmjmae · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maxthon uses a proxy. If the China's government is smart they would release Maxthon that uses it own proxy - let the end users view censored infor. Let use Maxthon spread. Then you have a nice log of who the trouble makers are and can take them down at any point. I for one would not trust a browser that uses a proxy to surf the internet. I think the AOL browser also routes all your internet traffic through their proxy servers.

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  33. This isn't really new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm actually using it right now. I've been using this browser for the past few years, ever since it used to be called MyIE. It has most of the same features and a few a like more than Firefox like the mouse gestures feature.