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Google Video Runs Ads & Shares the Profits

god4twenty writes "Google announced yesterday that they are testing ads on videos on the Google Video service, matching capabilities that other video services have had for a while. Up to now, Google Video uploaders could make their video available either for a fee or for free. The new ad-laced videos are available on Google Video's "free today" section. The new ads appear as banners above the video.

When the test concludes, Google plans to run auctions where advertisers bid to have their ads displayed on each video. The ad revenue will be split with the video owner. "
Time for me to start collecting phat bank from the videos I have up there.

80 comments

  1. Sorry Taco. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hamster Havoc will not make you "phat bank."

    1. Re:Sorry Taco. by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1

      Don't watch google videos with ads. Refuse. Make this a money loser. Please, please, please don't let them make money off this. Utilizing psychological techniques on people to make them take actions without reason is EVIL, google. That means advertising. It's evil. Hiring psyche majors to apply their scientific knowledge to the task of assembling a visual display that convinces millions of people to act contrary to reason and buy inferior crap in the warped belief that it will make them thin and get them laid hurts us all. Please don't tolerate it.

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    2. Re:Sorry Taco. by bcat24 · · Score: 1

      OK, so by your logic:

      Sites with advertising are evil.
      Slashdot is a site with advertising.
      Therefore, Slashdot is evil.

      It kinda confirms what I though all along.

    3. Re:Sorry Taco. by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1

      No, slashdot isn't evil. But when they sell our mindspace to Microsoft etc, they do evil. We're just so accustomed to it that we tolerate it, but we shouldn't. Personally, if I could choose between condemning an advertising exec or a mugger, I'd go for the advertising exec. The mugger could stay busy every day for years and not cause the kind of harm that advertisers with their capacity to reach billions of people cause every day.

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  2. Phat Bank by caleb_is_a_dharmabum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can you make revenue by posting other's copyrighted work? Most of the videos I see on youtube or google video are ripped. No I did not read the article. Yet.

    1. Re:Phat Bank by caleb_is_a_dharmabum · · Score: 1

      Ah, "owner's video." Sorry.

    2. Re:Phat Bank by frosty_tsm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I had the same concern. The purpose of this program seems to be to encourage copywrite owners to put their works online and be able to make money off of it.

      Maybe we'll find the networks posting their tv shows on there. I mean, make money from ads by showing commercials or with google's ads...

    3. Re:Phat Bank by Xymor · · Score: 1

      Looks like someone has actually paid attencion to a Mark Pesce lecture.

    4. Re:Phat Bank by carl0ski · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Can you make revenue by posting other's copyrighted work? Most of the videos I see on youtube or google video are ripped. No I did not read the article. Yet.


      Since it clearly states the split the revenue with the Video owner they will fetch permission

        from the video ownerwhether it be ABC NBC or your home video.

      If you grant permission they will stick an ad in your video and you get a profit,

      else it gets no ad and you get no revenue.

      The person who uploaded a Copyright protected video and claims revenue will easily be prosecuted since the money trail leads to them

      and Google would have a non liability disclosure on their policy.
  3. I'll pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who'd want ads in a video? Annoying crap, TV ads are bad enough, overlayed ads are obnoxious.

    1. Re:I'll pass by gasmonso · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you actually watched a video you would have seen that they are not overlayed. They appear above the video and at the end of the video.

      http://religiousfreaks.com/
    2. Re:I'll pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong choice of words, but my point stands, picture a blue or white ad (quite popular ad colours) next to a dark (night) video. Ruins the whole thing. I don't mind ads at the end, I wouldn't watch them, though :)

    3. Re:I'll pass by WeblionX · · Score: 1

      Much like the advertisement for your website.

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    4. Re:I'll pass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, I noticed that too. I have sigs outlined for a reason. I like reading some of them but it shows me which idiots paste their sig in each time they post...

  4. so... by joe+155 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    will this be a step closer to us getting free episodes of CSI/Lost etc. If they are going to have adverts why not put on stuff like that?

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    1. Re:so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I already get free episodes of those shows with advertising. All I have to do is turn on my TV and tune to the local CBS or ABC station.

    2. Re:so... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 3, Interesting

      will this be a step closer to us getting free episodes of CSI/Lost etc. If they are going to have adverts why not put on stuff like that?

      Yeah, I really think this might mean we get most of our content free. Why? Well, because the distrubution cost is very low. Much lower than the cable companies distrubution costs (i.e. maintaining their networks). Also, imagine if you instantly had your content available accross the world (as opposed to just one country at a time). Shows could instantly be a hit world wide. Also, you have a single partner to deliver this content (Google). In fact, Google makes it so easy to upload anyone can do it. You don't have to be a big shot tv producer. If American Idol had 40 million viewers in the US, how many people around the world would have tuned in if it was easily accessible? Also, I believe Google has the capability to make much more ad revenue off of these shows than traditional tv ads. This is because they allow the allow a more direct marketing approach by giving click-thrus. On tv, it's mostly just image advertising. So, why charge for content when you can make so much with ad revenue. Pay-per-view content will still be around, but it will be highly specialized content that doesn't get a lot of viewers.

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    3. RE:Re:so... by pureliquidhw · · Score: 1

      yeah, but lets hope the net remains neutral

    4. Re:so... by Golias · · Score: 1

      Why? Well, because the distrubution cost is very low. Much lower than the cable companies distrubution costs (i.e. maintaining their networks).

      You can't possibly be serious. Broadband on-demand video cheaper than traditional broadcasting!?

      If that were the case, cable and satellite TV would already be long gone by now.

      The only reason it's fairly cheap at the moment is because nothing has hit YouTube or Google that is popular enough for 40 million people to want to download and/or stream it at the same time. When that day comes, Google's video servers will burn up faster than an un-recalled PowerBook 5300 running Apache that just got slashdotted.

      If American Idol had 40 million viewers in the US, how many people around the world would have tuned in if it was easily accessible?

      It's already seen overseas. Don't ask me how, but when I was in Japan, girls there could name just about every contestant.

      Not too shabby for a show which is basically a season-long infomercial for the record label.

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    5. Re:so... by proxima · · Score: 1

      will this be a step closer to us getting free episodes of CSI/Lost etc.

      You know about this, right?

      I made the unfortunate mistake of watching the series finale of Alias this way. The delivery method itself works pretty well, but having been only the second episode or so of Alias that I've seen, I was pretty unimpressed with the way the show turned out.

      I had to watch 3-4 30 second ads, for a total of about 90 minutes (in what I presume aired for 2 hours on normal TV, not bad). The annoying part was, you have to click to exit each ad and continue the show after 30 seconds. Overall, though, the video quality was excellent for being streamed.

      I don't have cable or even an antenna, so all the shows I watch are on DVD from Netflix. However, I'd like to be able to stream (from the US, legally) World Cup games, live (or at least delayed no more than a few minutes). As far as I've been able to determine, the only way to do that is through ESPN360. It's free for certain ISPs (probably ones which agree to host mirroring/multicast equipment), but not mine. Fortunately, they're offering a demo from June 26 to July 19 (I think), so hopefully I'll catch some of the games during that period. They don't offer everything, but it's better than nothing. Still, TV is way behind radio in internet streaming, though that's rather expected. It seems like the BBC is at the forefront, but they can't/don't export even for a fee.

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    6. Re:so... by Antemeridian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only problem with that, is a lot of companies aren't looking for worldwide ads for everything . . . then you end up with stuff like ads in English only, campaigns not always being global, etc.

      Now, for some stuff it could work, like massive advertising for the World Cup (sponsors' ads along with highlights?), or if the technology expands out, with the big multinationals, being able to purchase the rights to a video, and run regional campaigns throughout their various markets.

    7. Re:so... by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Figures, I just pawned my TV to pay the internet bill.

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    8. Re:so... by caluml · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But I don't want to watch American-targetted adverts (that are on every 5 minutes, from what I'm told).
      How will they handle international distribution?

    9. Re:so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, imagine if you instantly had your content available accross the world (as opposed to just one country at a time). Shows could instantly be a hit world wide.

      Better hire lots of good dubbing talent. While English is quite widely spoken through out the world, it is only as a 2nd or 3rd language and most audiences prefer that their entertainment to be in their native tongue.

      There is the occasional freak or two who insist on the original language with subtitles (which are still a lot of work to translate well) but their numbers are miniscule compared to the hoi polloi.

    10. Re:so... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can't possibly be serious. Broadband on-demand video cheaper than traditional broadcasting!?

      Not in terms of total cost, but remember, you pay a bill each month to your broadband provider for your service. This is a sunk cost and Google doesn't have to consider this in their costs (as long as we have net neutrality). Also, Google has to pay for their bandwidth usage. I'm sure they have this cost in their equations already though, so it has been factored in. If it's profitable for one user, it's profitable for 40 million.

      When that day comes, Google's video servers will burn up faster than an un-recalled PowerBook 5300 running Apache that just got slashdotted.

      If Google is doing the ad sponsored video, I'm sure they've crunched the numbers. They're not doing something that loses them money. If they can make money with a couple thousand users, they'll make more money if they have millions. All they have to do is scale. So far they've been great at scaling. They're currently building a 20 acre supercomputer with it's own power plant for cooling (I'm too lazy to post the link but the story was slashdotted earlier). I think they can handle the file serving side of it for sure. File serving is not super compute intensive.

      It's already seen overseas. Don't ask me how, but when I was in Japan, girls there could name just about every contestant.

      Sure it's seen oversees because it was syndicated oversees to many many countries. But the beauty of this is that you don't need to negotiate a separate contract for each country, you don't need to hire lawyers to setup corporations in each country, etc. Google just hosts it. Anyone in the world can see the same video. Yes, American Idol can afford to syndicate globally, but can your average Joe who's uploading his vlog? I don't think so. Now he doesn't have to do all that stuff, it's just available everywhere.

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    11. Re:so... by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 1

      If that were the case, cable and satellite TV would already be long gone by now....

      The only reason it's fairly cheap at the moment is because nothing has hit YouTube or Google that is popular enough for 40 million people to want to download and/or stream it at the same time.


      The beauty of it is, unlike tv, they won't have to do it at the same time.

      The user population will get comfortable with the fact that they can request content to fit their schedule, instead of conforming to a broadcast schedule. It's congruent with their inherent selfishness.

      Also, Broadband is not as ubiquitous as the TV yet. But it is already affecting print media. Look at News papers and magazines. They'r down, big time. Once we get foldable mobile screens - their done.

      Once braodband becomes the norm, and media center systems get a little easier to configure - TV is done too.

      It's already seen overseas. Don't ask me how, but when I was in Japan, girls there could name just about every contestant.

      The same way I get Telemundo. A provder over there just has to pay for a feed.

    12. Re:so... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 1

      The only problem with that, is a lot of companies aren't looking for worldwide ads for everything . . . then you end up with stuff like ads in English only, campaigns not always being global, etc.

      The underlying assumption is that everyone would see the same ad. This is exactly why the internet is better than tv. The internet can customize the ads to the user. At a minimum, Google could detect that your ip is from Hong Kong and automatically serve up Cantonese content or whatever language you speak, at the maximum it could remember that you had clicked on an ad for a new car three months ago and serve up ads for refinancing your auto loan this time. There's no way to do anything like this in TV which is why I think much of the content on the major networks and even cable will be available for free on the net shortly. If companies aren't looking for world wide ads, I'm sure Google could very easily implement a system that targets ads to US ips or Japanese IPs, etc. To take it one step further, they could probably even target to regional areas. Like only Northern California users, etc.

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    13. Re:so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>> If American Idol had 40 million viewers in the US, how many people around the world would have tuned in if it was easily accessible?

      40 million!

    14. Re:so... by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 1

      I'm sure Google could very easily implement a system that targets ads to US ips or Japanese IPs, etc.

      I can already confirm that this is a standard practice in online advertising. Google video already allows you to limit your content being served based on region, the advertising tool will just sit on top of that.

      Google is in it for the Ad revenue. It wouldn't do them a lick of good to serve english ads to Cantonese surfers who wouldn't click through on them.

    15. Re:so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got Pwned.

    16. Re:so... by Mydron · · Score: 1
      Well, because the distrubution cost is very low. Much lower than the cable companies distrubution costs (i.e. maintaining their networks).

      How exactly are you receiving the content? Via broadband internet perhaps? Unless you're among the lucky miniscule who receive your internet via wireless, the distribution cost of this model is exactly the same as regular cable -- its going over the exact same infrastructure! In fact, google's distribution cost is probably higher because, despite google's brilliance, cable companies can probably deliver content over its networks for much cheaper. Cable companies have lower costs because they've had a long time to optimize their delivery and generally aren't offering their content on demand.

      If google's service succeeds it will succeed because creates a more accessible market to content suppliers (not because its any cheaper). This model threatens to cut our the middle man, namely the publishers of content who negotiate their contracts with cable networks on behalf of content suppliers. If the cable companies had the balls they could probably provide a similiar service (and market) at lower costs.

    17. Re:so... by cyberwiz01 · · Score: 1

      You can already watch LOST for free on abc.com with advertisements. The picture quality is pretty good too. This has been going on since about 2/3 through this past season.

    18. Re:so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can already watch Lost and other ABC shows for free online. See http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

      Hopefully more stations will follow ABC's lead on this.

    19. Re:so... by kesuki · · Score: 1

      The internet distribution cost Could be very low. with suitable multicast servers if everyone watched at a predefined time etc. and network maintainence fees don't go away they just shift from the tv bill to the internet bill.

      Anyways, I can't find a single point in your entire comment that i found to be in any way correct. too bad there is no 'wrong' moderation on slashdot huh.

    20. Re:so... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 1

      How exactly are you receiving the content? Via broadband internet perhaps? nless you're among the lucky miniscule who receive your internet via wireless, the distribution cost of this model is exactly the same as regular cable -- its going over the exact same infrastructure!

      Again, Google doesn't pay your broadband bill. You do. I probably should have said, "Google's distribution cost is very low" instead of "the distribution cost is very low".

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    21. Re:so... by wishmechaos · · Score: 1
      Also, imagine if you instantly had your content available accross the world (as opposed to just one country at a time). Shows could instantly be a hit world wide.
      I think you're forgetting there's a language barrier. That model only works for funny/dumb stuff, or something without dialog. Not everyone speaks English; you'd have to dub it or add subtitles in every language out there, and the process itself is quite expensive. That's the reason why most shows here (in Argentina) air 2-3 months after it's shown in the US. It's quite funny though that commonly torrented shows are subtitled by fans or groups before it's broadcast on cable.
    22. Re:so... by rgravina · · Score: 1
      There is the occasional freak or two who insist on the original language with subtitles
      Are you nuts? I always watch foreign language content in the original language with subtitles. Dubbing looses a lot of the subtlety present in the original language. Even if you can't understand it, it's great to see, for example, someone actually cursing in French rather than listen to the bland English translation (or Russian for that matter, I hear it's suitability for cursing is unparalleled). On top of this dubbing will always be out of sync with the mouths of the actors. If you are trying to learn the language the content is in, subtitling is a great way of both enjoying the content and being exposed to the language while reading a running translation. In conclusion you, Mr. Coward, are nuts.
    23. Re:so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're paying for it, believe me. Or has everything you buy never been advertised?

    24. Re:so... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, that's true, but there are less than 300 million english speakers in the US and there are over a billion world wide, so it expands your audiance significantly. Also, the same thing works for other languages. For Spanish, it's the difference from being a show in Argentina as opposed to a show that all Spanish speakers can watch. Chinese too.

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    25. Re:so... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 1

      The internet distribution cost Could be very low. with suitable multicast servers if everyone watched at a predefined time etc. and network maintainence fees don't go away they just shift from the tv bill to the internet bill.

      I'm talking about Google's costs (not total costs). Since YOU already pay your internet bill, it doesn't need to be factored into Google's cost. This is why I think their will be a lot more content available.

      Anyways, I can't find a single point in your entire comment that i found to be in any way correct.

      Turst me, it's all correct. You must have misinterperted it if you think otherwise. You probably just disagree with my point about it being cheaper. But, it IS cheaper for _Google_ to provide video than it is for Cable companies because Google doesn't have to provide internet service for you because you already pay for it. It's not one of their costs. They only pay for their internet banwidth and servers. This is a lot easier than maintaining a network, sending out service men to fix problems, etc. If you disagree with another point, be specific and I'll gladly tell you why you're wrong.

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  5. CmdrTaco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    That sex tape of you and Hemos is not going to make any money. Now you and CowboyNeal... that's some phat bank.

  6. "Phat bank"? by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 5, Funny
    Time for me to start collecting phat bank from the videos I have up there.

    You should take the proceeds from your phat bank, buy yourself a booktionary.

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  7. Let the College pranks begin ! by Joebert · · Score: 5, Funny

    Phase 1: Upload video of roommate lighting a fart.
    Phase 2: ...
    Phase 3: ROFLMAO !

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    1. Re:Let the College pranks begin ! by LoonyMike · · Score: 3, Funny

      That L stands for lighting, right?

    2. Re:Let the College pranks begin ! by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only if you put an F on the end.

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  8. better than youtube now? by earthstar · · Score: 1
    So doesnt it makes more sense to upload a video to Google Video & make money, instead of using youtube?

    Youtube under pressure to come up with a revenue model.

  9. Ads only in windowed mode by spyrochaete · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can double-click the video to view it fullscreen which hides the ads entirely. If you hit F11 most browsers switch to minimal mode which is a great way to watch episodes.

    1. Re:Ads only in windowed mode by assassinator42 · · Score: 1

      Those videos don't seem to go into fullscreen mode.

    2. Re:Ads only in windowed mode by assassinator42 · · Score: 1

      Whoops, I guess it was being blocked by the popup blocker when I tried to switch it to "fullscreen" mode. Never mind.

  10. blunder again by Chopo · · Score: 1

    - days to wait for you can share your video (seriously, can anyone wait that long) - difficult to directly get to the video site (click "more" you noob ?) - less search options - less videos in the long tail (geee, anyone surprised) and now ADS.. Youtube is on steriod investments and heavenly ad-less, but Google is making a hard bet on competition now. With a web 2.0 culture you can't be that restrictive, full stop. Curious what google would do if net neutrality did get the go ahead....

    1. Re:blunder again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, what? Google has the most to lose if net neutrality doesn't get enshrined as law. It's everyone vs. the telecom companies.

      Wikipedia history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality
      Official Google Flack-page: http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality.html

      If net neutrality won out, Google (and YouTube) would keep doing what they're doing now....

  11. A strategic leap ahead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a Microsoft-worthy move. (and I mean the smart Microsoft of the early 90's, not the lumbering triceratops of the present).

    Integrating ads into their videos immediately takes Google's core structural advantage (the network-effects-rich matching of many small/medium-size advertisers with the millions of web searchers and content seekers) and applies it to a market that isn't, shall we say, a hand-over-fist moneymaker.

    Consider some of the other video sites out there. YouTube is spending millions on bandwidth, and increasing exponentially. Yet they make their money on flat text ads served by....Google. Just like every other tiny content site on the web. Yet from launch, Google Video hasn't had any ads (unlike GMail, for example, or the main Google search site). They were clearly biding their time until they had a good idea for monetizing the traffic, and they knew from their own internal economic analyses that text ads weren't the answer. People go to YouTube for quick hits (just to watch a single video), sometimes for browsing the coolest video of the day, but not because they're in the ad-clicking mindset that they're in after an open-ended web search. And as a content provider with Google ads, YouTube gets paid for click-throughs, not just impressions.

    But if you take the broadcast television model and force the viewer to subsidize the stream, then those quick hits suddenly become self-supporting. Sure, Google will get paid less per video impression than it would for a click-through (from either a text or video ad), but it will have hundreds/thousands time as many video ad impressions as it would text ad click-throughs. And here's the major barrier to entry--YouTube and the other video sites don't have a stable of advertisers who can place these ads. Those other sites can't just create those ad networks from scratch, either.

    Before this move, video serving was a commodity without any real network effects. Google and YouTube were essentially equivalent, strategically, with perhaps an edge to YouTube (for the weaker copyright protections, and consequently superior selection of pirated stuff). After this move, why would you post a video on YouTube when you can get paid to post it on Google? It's the difference between running a free web site with no revenues and running a free web site with Google ads in the corner. Once you get fees, you never go back.

    -AC

    1. Re:A strategic leap ahead... by Cheapy · · Score: 1

      "After this move, why would you post a video on YouTube when you can get paid to post it on Google? It's the difference between running a free web site with no revenues and running a free web site with Google ads in the corner. Once you get fees, you never go back."

      Maybe you don't want a major U.S. corporation to know where your contact information? You know, if you are making dissident videos?

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    2. Re:A strategic leap ahead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I mean the smart Microsoft of the early 90's, not the lumbering triceratops of the present

      Triceratops the world over take offence at that. We are not lumbering - we're just big boned

    3. Re:A strategic leap ahead... by Pollardito · · Score: 1
      Maybe you don't want a major U.S. corporation to know where your contact information? You know, if you are making dissident videos?
      in that case you should be posting it to Al Jazeera
    4. Re:A strategic leap ahead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      YouTube is the latest Myspace. Like all geeks you fail to see the social aspect. Why post to YouTube instead of making money on Google? It is because you ARE paid on YouTube... you are paid in social ways. You get comments saying how hot you are, you get friends, and "fame".

      The markets are COMPLETELY different. YouTube, is YOUtube. It is for people. They are copying every feature Myspace has, but centering it around video. Google Video is for all the copyrighted crap people are flooding YouTube with. Those guys will go to Google, YouTube will become more about the blogs and dancing teens.

  12. Illegal Clicks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and how many small-time uploaders will have their videos pulled and their revenue frozen for people clicking their adverts too many times?

  13. Good idea but one thing for Goog to consider by zymano · · Score: 1

    There is more and more phony videos now.

    When something gets big and then you throw in some money you see alot garbage like email.

    I think the ones that DIRECTED or obviously phony should be tagged and seperated/categorized.

    I saw one video that was silly about mentos and cola where the girl drinks both and explodes. It was funny and then you see the big ad for the director/producer of it. That kind of ruins it. Wasn't even worth my time. I like reality without the special digital effects.

  14. Can O' Worms by apflwr3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems like this could lead to some trouble. Copyright violation is for the most part overlooked on Google and YouTube right now because the videos are amateur, or the clips are uploaded by fans, and anyway who cares because no one is making money anyway. But if uploaders start making a profit you can certainly bet the copyright holders will start to pay attention.

    It's not just the RIAA typoes we have to worry about, either-- how many of the subjects of these videos signed releases? If I put up a video on a free site of a frat guy lighting farts on fire he'll probably just laugh it off. If I am making a profit from that video without an agreement with the star he's going to have the right to demand a cut (or even damages for posting his image without permission.)

    Also, if there is a violation of copyrights (or use of a person's likeness without permission) under the free model Google can pretty much wash their hands of it and say they don't take responsibility for what is uploaded to their site. If Google is taking a cut of the ad profits, however, aren't they making themselves complicit too?

    1. Re:Can O' Worms by inio · · Score: 1

      It's not just the RIAA typoes we have to worry about, either

      Best. Typo. Ever.

  15. Great... how do I Adblock it? by Andy_R · · Score: 2, Informative

    Adding

    http://video.google.com/sv*

    to my addblock filter kills the logos, but does anyone have a rule that kills the text and box too?

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    1. Re:Great... how do I Adblock it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who views my videos without the concomitant advertising material is stealing my content without due compensation. I have already directed Google to discontinue service to those who use these so-called "Ad Blockers." This includes but is not limited to Gmail, Google Talk, Google Spreadsheets, and even Google Reader.

    2. Re:Great... how do I Adblock it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Create a css file or add to existing file the line:
      #adbannerblock { display: none ! important;}

      and place it in(for WinXP) C:\Documents and Settings\[UserName]\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\[RandomString].[Prof ileName]\chrome\userContent.css

      and restart firefox. You can do the same with Opera but place it in(WinXP) C:\Program Files\Opera\styles\user.css instead.

    3. Re:Great... how do I Adblock it? by grolschie · · Score: 1

      "Stealing"?

  16. Comedy Central by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    All I know is they better not implement something like Comedy Central and Cartoon Network did. Adult Swim Fix is running that stupid Honda campaign FOREVER and I just discovered today that when I watch Daily Show video clips, they all have the same stupid Pringles ad in front of them.

    I'm in advertising, I like seeing new and interesting ads, and while the first time through those ads were cool, now they are fucking annoying, especially when I tend to watch the video clips one right after another like with The Daily Show. Worst move ever, I sure hope Google learns from others mistakes.

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  17. this sucks by Mean+Ass+Troll · · Score: 1

    screw google and these ads.

    thios is only gettin worse. the whole point of having a COMPUTOR is so that you can manipulate your own media, ie get rid of ads. if i wanted commercials i would go watch tv.

    i hope more people realize that this is just headed to having all internet videos with commercials on them, without the user knowing what they are even getting.

    this shit has to be left in the dust by everyone, or you wont recognize the internet in 15 years; it will be like digital cable, only with commercials.

    hopefully people will keep writing software to prevent this from happening. i know google does have something in the pipe about searching images and even video, so its not too far fetched to have a program that searches and destroys unwanted ads.

    as far as people being paid to post shit on the net? i dont care if it dries up. i like free video, with no ads, if you cant do that then you can find another line of work or fuck off and die. i didt tell you to be in this business, and i dont want what you are selling. if you dont provide ad free video i can get it from tons of other places

    i already dont like google video because it doesnt let you right click and save their stuff. now there is going to be more drm and commercials? i think my response is clear: and the horse you rode in on.

    1. Re:this sucks by Xeirxes · · Score: 1

      thios is only gettin worse. the whole point of having a COMPUTOR is so that you can manipulate your own media, ie get rid of ads. if i wanted commercials i would go watch tv. But, remember that it ISN'T your media. Once you upload it to Google they can display it however they want, and in addition they can display any part of their site however they want to. this shit has to be left in the dust by everyone, or you wont recognize the internet in 15 years; it will be like digital cable, only with commercials. The main difference between TV and computers in my mind is not that one has ads and the other doesn't. Computers require user input which makes them very much different than TV. It'll never be as bad as TV where you either sit there and watch ads for 10 minutes or you go do something else. On a computer you can just close the window and find the video you want somewhere else. hopefully people will keep writing software to prevent this from happening. i know google does have something in the pipe about searching images and even video, so its not too far fetched to have a program that searches and destroys unwanted ads. That's just silly. You can't "destroy" an ad if it's put on someone else's server. as far as people being paid to post shit on the net? i dont care if it dries up. i like free video, with no ads, if you cant do that then you can find another line of work or fuck off and die. i didt tell you to be in this business, and i dont want what you are selling. if you dont provide ad free video i can get it from tons of other places If there was no advertising on the internet, a large portion of sites would be forced to shut down because of the high maintenance costs. Do you think there's some rich dude sitting behind Google and paying them to keep running? Probably not quite that much. They're probably keeping their sites alive through advertisements. i already dont like google video because it doesnt let you right click and save their stuff. now there is going to be more drm and commercials? i think my response is clear: and the horse you rode in on. And yes, you CAN download their videos. You simply need to have their video player, which makes sense (so you can't just copy it over to another website).

    2. Re:this sucks by Xeirxes · · Score: 1

      thios is only gettin worse. the whole point of having a COMPUTOR is so that you can manipulate your own media, ie get rid of ads. if i wanted commercials i would go watch tv.

      But, remember that it ISN'T your media. Once you upload it to Google they can display it however they want, and in addition they can display any part of their site however they want to. this shit has to be left in the dust by everyone, or you wont recognize the internet in 15 years; it will be like digital cable, only with commercials. The main difference between TV and computers in my mind is not that one has ads and the other doesn't. Computers require user input which makes them very much different than TV. It'll never be as bad as TV where you either sit there and watch ads for 10 minutes or you go do something else. On a computer you can just close the window and find the video you want somewhere else.

      hopefully people will keep writing software to prevent this from happening. i know google does have something in the pipe about searching images and even video, so its not too far fetched to have a program that searches and destroys unwanted ads.

      That's just silly. You can't "destroy" an ad if it's put on someone else's server.

      as far as people being paid to post shit on the net? i dont care if it dries up. i like free video, with no ads, if you cant do that then you can find another line of work or fuck off and die. i didt tell you to be in this business, and i dont want what you are selling. if you dont provide ad free video i can get it from tons of other places

      If there was no advertising on the internet, a large portion of sites would be forced to shut down because of the high maintenance costs. Do you think there's some rich dude sitting behind Google and paying them to keep running? Probably not quite that much. They're probably keeping their sites alive through advertisements.

      i already dont like google video because it doesnt let you right click and save their stuff. now there is going to be more drm and commercials? i think my response is clear: and the horse you rode in on.

      And yes, you CAN download their videos. You simply need to have their video player, which makes sense (so you can't just copy it over to another website).

    3. Re:this sucks by pcnetworx1 · · Score: 1

      "i already dont like google video because it doesnt let you right click and save their stuff. now there is going to be more drm and commercials? i think my response is clear: and the horse you rode in on."

      Dude / Dudette, JUST DOWNLOAD THE GOOGLE VIDEO PLAYER AND YOU CAN SAVE THE VIDEO. And DRM? Yes, but at least this DRM doesn't have an expiration date, and the program to view the data is free (as in $$$) at least.

      It isn't perfect yet, but it is better than before and looks sustainable long-term.

      Wow, you ARE a Mean Ass Troll.

    4. Re:this sucks by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 1
      thios is only gettin worse. the whole point of having a COMPUTOR is so that you can manipulate your own media, ie get rid of ads.

      Er, no, "getting free stuff" is not the whole point of having a COMPUTOR, unless you are an extremely boring and greedy individual. Surely being able to post on Slashdot is the whole point? ;)

      Anyway, if a significant number of people feel the same way there's nothing under this model to stop Google allowing you to pay a bit of your own cash to skip the ads. You can't do that with broadcast TV because there's no personalisation ability, but with a broadband media network like Google has it's trivial to do so and the only limiting factor is demand.

      Personally, I'd be willing to pay to skip interstitial ads in shows like Lost/24 because they really pull you out of the story. The sort of ads they have currently at the end I don't see any reason to pay to skip as you can just hit the "stop" button instead ... but hey anything to reduce the dreaded product placement. God damn I hate that shit.

  18. I Dispise... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    I dispise any form of video ad on any web-page. And especially the ones with sound. Still don't know how to block them effectively, but I will not deal with any business advertising to me that way.

    And the worst part is that somebody probably thought these were a Good Idea.

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  19. Burger king? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I watched one of the "free today" boxing videos, and the ad was for burger king. Why wouldn't they try to get a relevant ad to the video? I thought that's exactly what made google such an internet ad-giant. I suppose for many of the dumb videos that get posted there wont be many good ads, but surly if it is a good subject (like sports in my case) they can find a good ad that's going to do much better than some generic one.

    I know that there would be other issues too, since for the ads they would have to rely solely on the description and title which could make abuse a problem, but I'm a little surprised that google is not even trying to get them contextual.

  20. Revver.com by seaotter02 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Revver has been doing this for some time already - just with much less intrusive ads. That diet coke and mentos experiment linked on Slashdot was using Revver and made over $20,000 for the creators in two weeks (according to various news reports).

    Revver splits the ad revenue 50-50 with creators - or if there is a syndicator involved 20%(syndicator) - 40% (creator) - 40% (Revver).

  21. Google? Putting ADs on VIDEOS? by jackDuhRipper · · Score: 1
    This is Google we're talking about, right? They'll find a way to project ads onto skittering pigeons in Bryant Park and you're somehow surprised they're placing ads atop videos they're hosting and serving?

    if you don't like it, don't watch it

    the whole point of having a COMPUTOR is so that you can manipulate your own media, ie get rid of ads.

    whose whole point? Not mine, certainly. I user a computer to create my own media (fwiw ...); I don't expect to forever to be able to manipulate others' media as I wish and free-of-charge.

    i hope more people realize that this is just headed to having all internet videos with commercials on them, without the user knowing what they are even getting.

    Unlike television, cable and satelite where you're given a rundown of every advertiser beforehand?

    this shit has to be left in the dust by everyone, or you wont recognize the internet in 15 years; it will be like digital cable, only with commercials.

    George Carlin's as right as ever: use the knobs to change the station or just turn it off completely. Don't try to take away my ability to chose just because you don't like it.

    the online advertising ecosystem - should it take hold for video, as well - will provide a lot of incentive for some creative people to do creative things and perhaps even profit by it. (There must be *some* entertainer you don't begrudge a profit?)

    It also creates opportunities for ...

    hopefully people will keep writing software to prevent this from happening.

    bingo - that, too -

    Google makes money placing advertising on services people like using. To this point, I still don't mind their advertising. If you do, you should stop using Google.

    Pax; Lux -

    S

  22. Google video redefines "download" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go ahead and try to "download" a movie from Google video. It simply grabs a .gvp file and forces you to watch it with their crappy "hang my system" player. What's worse is that it doesn't actually download the video, only the pointer whereas the video still is only accessible if you have a connection to the Internet. That ain't downloading, that's just bookmarking.

    1. Re:Google video redefines "download" by Mike+deVice · · Score: 1

      It is quite possible to download the video from google. It does take some extra steps, though.

      Open up that .GVP file in your favorite text editor. You'll find a rather lengthy URL in there. Copy and paste that URL into your browser's address box, and you've got access to the actual media.

      I'm too lazy to look, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there's a Firefox extension around that might even do the dirty work for you.

  23. As long as it's unobtrusive.. by chris_7d0h · · Score: 1

    The thing which made Google ads acceptable led to the enormous success of Google was that the web page ads were unobtrusive, i.e. didn't distract the site visitor from the content the visitor was trying to digest. If you recall, at the time of Google ad launch, all contemporary and competing advertisers were in a race for creating the most obnoxious adds with the seeming goal of distracting the visitor as much as possible (blinking, bleeping, animating etc.).

    As long as Google can provide ads which doesn't distract me or interfere with my goal of accessing a certain web resource, then I'm fine with it. I really hope they've looked at some "anti patterns" for video advertising, which would include any ad which breaks the video stream by inserting a, to the context unrelated video of advertising, a video having nothing to do with the content the viewer wants to see. Some examples are the damn FBI-warnings in the beginning of most DVDs, commercial "breaks" (or artistic terrorism) imposed by those TV channels which are paid for by advertising (most US channels are good examples of this anti-pattern) or attempts by online content providers to mimic the horrid intrusive advertising scheme from broadcast TV, such as Gamespot (beginning each clip with a totally unrelated and forced upon video clip).

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