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Fedora Core 6 Preview

An anonymous reader writes "Earlier this week Jesse Keating announced the availability of Fedora Core 6 Test 1. New items in FC6T1 include Intel Macintosh support (well, mostly), update notification applet, GNOME 2.15, KDE 3.5.3, and the Fedora Core 6 Extras development repository is already available. With FC6T1's availability, Phoronix has published their own preview of this release. The article is focused on an editorial about changes to come for Fedora Core 6, as well as images from Fedora Core 6 Test 1. The next Fedora Core 6 testing release (Test 2) is due out in July, while the final release is due out this September."

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  1. fedora's problem... by joe+155 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I started to use fedora a few months ago and really like it. The main problem I find with it is they seem too willing to update too quickly. I was speaking on a forum about the problems I was having (Kernel update 2107 had real problems) I was told "core 5 is very new, it will get more stable over the coming months"... I kind'a feel like they should make core 5 as stable and as good as it can be and keep it going for about a year or two from when it is completely setled. The only reason that I am a little worried is I'm pretty sure yum will update me to core 6 automatically if i forget to "--exclude" everytime I do a update

    Still, it is a really lovely distro (I know it sounds like I slagged it off)... but give it a go : D

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    1. Re:fedora's problem... by TerminaMorte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the entire point of Fedora; if you want something with a slower release cycle, try debian (joking!).

      Seriously though, something like Ubuntu or Mandrivia might suit you better if stablity is more important to you than bleeding-edge.

    2. Re:fedora's problem... by joe+155 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it's not the bleeding edge that bothers me, infact I like it with the software, but I want a stable base for it

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    3. Re:fedora's problem... by hughesjr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well ... you could use RHEL ... but how ethical is it? I mean ... there is Gnome and KDE from other open source people, and Samba too. And OpenOffice.org is developed by someone else. Hmmm, what about Firefox, Seamonkey, the Kernel. I just don't know about the RH stuff, they just seem to be riding the backs of other developers. ------------ HOW STUPID DOES THAT SOUND .... :-) pretty stupid, right? So stop whining about CentOS ... CentOS is GPL, and is not doing anything that 100 other distro maintainers are not doing. GPL is GPL ...

  2. Re:patented codec support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think distros that disallow MP3 playback out of the box are being over zealous for 4 reasons:

    1. All software violates patents
    2. The patent holder says that FLOSS players are ok.
    3. The patents are only valid in the US and Japan
    4. The point is moot in 3 years anyway when the patent expires. So, there's no time to popularize ogg if that's what they're attempting.

    I'm all for keeping things 100% FLOSS, but as long as a piece of software has source code and is freely licenced then personally I don't care if it violates patents. Its one thing being forced by law not to use MP3 playback, but voluntarily removing it preemptively...isn't that a little like jumping off a cliff to avoid getting pushed off?

  3. But it could be a lot easier.... by MarkByers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ridiculous hoop you have to jump through is to simply type:

    rpm -ivh http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release-5.rpm


    Why do I have to type something at the command line to get basic multimedia support? Can't they just make a button during the install that you can press to get 'illegal' software. The button could read:

    'I want to play mp3 files and I don't care if it's illegal. I take full responsibility for my actions.'

    or:

    'Software patents don't apply in my country, give me an mp3 player already!'

    Why do they make you use the command line? It doesn't make sense.

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    I'll probably be modded down for this...
    1. Re:But it could be a lot easier.... by quintesse · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because I'm sure a judge would agree with you completely that only putting a button to the illegal downloads would absolve the distro makers completely in case anyone decides to sue them. Besides, I like Fedora exactly for that attitude, they have their principals and they stick to them even though it might hurt them at times.

      And if entering one line on a console scares you maybe Linux is not for you. And I'm not being elitist here or anything, but it's just that you will be confrontend with a shell at some time during your Linux usage. The same way that for Windows you will be confronted with driver downloads (Why doesn't Microsoft give me a big button "Install latest nVidia drivers, I know what I'm doing").

  4. Re:I have only one question by HuguesT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Throwing my mod points away to respond to this :

    I run FC5 at home and Ubuntu, Debian and Mandrake at work. Read this series of reviews of the latest Ubuntu release (6.06), they are not all positive. A significant number say Drake was rushed and not on par with the previous release.

    I have tried many distros out there, everyone has their favourite, and in particular Ubuntu is quite good, but there is no clear winner. Most people I read tend to base their impression of Linux on the latest distro they've tried. Usually this shows some improvement over the one they had tried earlier and (incorrectlly) conclude this is due to the distribution being "just better".

    In fact the whole of Linux is progressing at a rapid pace. Both Fedora and Ubuntu have quick and frequent release schedules, a large professional and dedicated team, and as a result they are quite solid, but the same is true of many distros out there. I've come to realize that by and large innovations by one distribution quickly permeate all. See the good work of Debian with apt, that of Ubuntu with their automounter and RH's work with sponsoring Gnome and SELinux.

    Ubuntu and FC have different, incompatible aims. Ubuntu is not a testing ground for RHEL, they show little interest with SELinux for instance, whereas this is of strategic importance for FC. However strangely perhaps they cover much of the same ground as far as the end-user is concerned.

    Saying that one particular distro among the big ones does something "much better" than any other is misinformed. Because of the nature of FOSS, none holds any permanent advantage over the others, as long as they all continue their development efforts.

  5. Re:Help a noob day: by Kiaser+Wilhelm+II · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is not RPM's fault. Ubuntu/Debian are not any different. If you download a .deb of something and it has dependencies on packages you don't have installed, you will encounter the same problems. You may have heard of "apt" for Debian based distributions. There is also "yum" for RPM.

    Knowledge is power.

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  6. Re:Does Fedora still matters? by LnxAddct · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "With 1/5th the age of a distro"

    Bullshit. Ubuntu is based off of Debian, and a very large chunk of the things Ubuntu uses were developed at Red Hat. Both are Gnome based distros, using Ubuntu is not easier than using Fedora, but Fedora comes with a lot of additional things that Ubuntu doesn't have. All of these Ubuntu supporters are simply falling right into Mark Shuttleworth's hands by building brand recognition so that his commercial side of tghe business will thrive. Mark Shuttleworth is a marketing genius.
    Regards,
    Steve

  7. Re:Cool distros come and go. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    " Why not merge the Debian and Fedora development efforts? Is there any real difference of goals so large that the teams couldn't, over time, resolve the differences?"

    Yes. There is one unsurmontable difference.

    Fedora is the testbed tool from a company named Red Hat.

    Debian is from users for users.