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Microsoft Ex-Chief to Launch Web-Based Software

prostoalex writes "Search for Paul Maritz and you're most likely to find Microsoft references. However, next month his new venture, PiCorp will start distributing Web-based software applications that might compete directly with Microsoft offerings. Former Microsoft exec also has an opinion on the future of software industry: '"The strength of the PC is also its weakness," Maritz says. "People don't want a single dedicated computer. They don't want their whole lives bound up in one piece of hardware. People want to get access wherever they are, from whatever device they're using."'"

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  1. Yeah . . . by base3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    . . . I might not want my life "bound up" in one piece of hardware, but I sure don't want it depending on paying some "service provider" every month while they share my files with every three letter agency, investigator, advertiser, and anyone else under the sun who will pay, either. I'll stick with open source software running on my desktop for my personal files, thank-you-very-much. If I need to not be "bound up," I'll VNC in over SSH.

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  2. Microsoft Ex-Chief to Launch Web-Based Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have only one piece of hardware, you insensitive clod.

  3. Why not just use USB drives? by khasim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree with not wanting my data on-line.

    But with the price of USB drives so low now, why not just encrypt your important data on one of those? That's what I do.

    That way, I have a copy on my home machine and a copy with me if I need it.

    1. Re:Why not just use USB drives? by CodeBuster · · Score: 3, Informative

      The USB thumb drive is vulnerable to the same types of boot sector viruses and trojan loaders that were making the rounds back when 3.5" floppy disks were in more common use. In fact, there is a recent example, discussed right here on Slashdot, concerning a computer security company which designed just such a virus to show a client how an attack, when combined with a clever bit of social engineering (i.e. the free stuff gambit), could be accomplished. If you are plugging your USB thumb drive into unknown hosts as you go about your day then you are asking for trouble.

      Social Engineering w/USB Drives

    2. Re:Why not just use USB drives? by Clovert+Agent · · Score: 3, Informative

      It wasn't a virus, it was a trojan. Important difference, because it could not, as you suggest, somehow spread to other usb devices. The point was that they gave away free USB disks with the trojan on it, and waited to see how many people would run it. Lots, unsurprisingly.

      Yes, a virus could target removable media and files on a USB drive could be infected. But that's ok, because you're keeping your own AV up to date, right? Also, depending on how you're mounting the encrypted data on that USB drive (because you are encrypting it, right?) the virus may not be able to write to it at all. If you're mounting the device as a drive/mount point, then it probably will, otherwise probably not.

    3. Re:Why not just use USB drives? by SCHecklerX · · Score: 3, Insightful
    4. Re:Why not just use USB drives? by kabz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, quite a few USB sticks come with a partition set up as a auto-run CD image. I was *very* surprised the other day to plug one such stick into an XP PC at work and have it auto-run a bunch of system tray code for managing the USB stick.

      I believe the stick is a SanDisk Cruiser.

      Note that this is after I'd at least attempted to repartition and format the stick on my powerbook. Maybe I got it wrong but I didn't manage to kill the CD partition.

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  4. Executive to Worker Ratio 3:1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    PI (pronounced "pi," like the number) has 50 employees and is headquartered in Bangalore, India. Its 15 founding executives

    15 executives to 50 workers! I wonder how many qualify as managers? 40? I don't expect to see much coming out of this company.

    1. Re:Executive to Worker Ratio 3:1 by bakes · · Score: 3, Funny

      Executive to Worker Ratio 3:1

      They are aiming for a 3.14159 : 1 ratio eventually.

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  5. Nonsense! by Jerry+Coffin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    People don't want a single dedicated computer. They don't want their whole lives bound up in one piece of hardware.

    This, of course, is why people own iPods, PDAs, cell phones that store dialing lists, etc. They can decide on the type of machine that's best suited to storing particular data.

    At least to me, his service doesn't seem like much of an improvement on that. In fact, it seems to do rather the opposite: while I suppose with his service, my data might be spread across a bunch of machines in a web server farm (plus back end servers, etc.) it all looks and acts like it's on one centralized computer.

    I have a small number of devices, each with a particular purpose. He probably has more devices, but they all seem to have the same purpose: taking my money, while reducing functionality.

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  6. Mainframe to PC and now back to Mainframe by jt2377 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Weeeeee!!!!!!!! the wheel goes round and round.

  7. Really? by Don'tTreadOnMe · · Score: 3, Informative
    "People don't want a single dedicated computer."

    Actually, I like having all of my stuff in one place...

  8. Re:Meh by generic-man · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not really. Net cafes are still pretty expensive for doing any amount of work and you have no idea how much spyware (including keyloggers to catch you entering your passwords for PiSoft JavaScriptyGoodness BETA) is on the machines. For the traveling hipster who needs to upload some new pics to his Flickr account, sure, the Net cafe will remain a useful tool. For businesspeople who actually care about security, the corporate laptop with VPN client will continue to be the weapon of choice.

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  9. Makes me think by Bombula · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'm not so sure about the whole 'tied to one piece of hardware' bit, but Google is definitely proving that the industry is shifting from a product emphasis to a service emphasis. And as one previous poster pointed out, privacy is probably the biggest concern there.

    My question is, what kind of services qualify for government snooping? Sure, if you use a service that involves storing your files on, say, Google's servers, well then government agencies can just demand that Google provide your info to them. But what if a company just provides a service to connect you to your own storage servers? Would that change things?

    We need to undertstand where the boundaries lie on personal property. Take the brick-and-mortar analogy: if you own your home, nobody is supposed to be able to just come in a rifle through your stuff (I think the PATRIOT Act changes that, actually, but be that as it may), whereas if you rent an apartment you have far less protection. Even if you own an apartment inside a building, I doubt you get the same protections as if you own the land as well. The parallels to owning/renting/leasing servers are obvious. Are there any folks out there who know about the legality involved?

    So, should we all be running file servers off our home PCs and just using service providers to access our own actual server via whatever device we're using, or is it enough to own one that's running at your web hosting company?

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    1. Re:Makes me think by ClosedSource · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I'm not so sure about the whole 'tied to one piece of hardware' bit, but Google is definitely proving that the industry is shifting from a product emphasis to a service emphasis."

      I'd say that the same media band-wagon jumpers from the heady dot-com era have decided that Google is a sure thing. What I don't see is any great reduction in desktop application sales in favor of web services. That day may indeed come, but there's little evidence of it today.

  10. "whole lives bound up" by l3v1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    whole lives bound up

    I'd very much more prefer my whole life bound up to pieces of hardware that are mine, than "trusting" it to some company whom I cannot influence, can change policies and terms as they see fit, have usually some obscure and ignorant thinking about "Security" and "privacy" as such, and have no control over, thankyouverymuch. Especially if that company has a leader with such a long term "education" in MS's way to see and do things.

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    1. Re:"whole lives bound up" by cmorriss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So I'll assume you have all your money stored in your mattress and not locked up with some company that you have to "trust". Also, I bet you have never used web based software to do your taxes. Credit cards? That's for those who want to give away all their freedom to companies that sell any and all your information to the highest bidder. Right?

      Yeah, I thought not. Welcome to the 2000's. You are already trusting your life to companies. It's just a matter of whether this company is really trustworthy. We'll see...

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  11. I can already access my system from anywhere by Bent+Mind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "People don't want a single dedicated computer. They don't want their whole lives bound up in one piece of hardware.

    No, I don't want my information "bound up" in a single, non-networked device. However, this statement shows just how out of touch this guy is. The Net, in it's current form, has been around since the 90s. Non-tech people have been doing remote connections since the mid 80s. Is "I left the data in my work computer" really still a viable excuse? Do computers still exist that can't be remote accessed (excluding systems designed that way for security reasons)? And no, I'm not talking about systems that just need some switch turned on, I mean they completely lack the ability. I ask because that is the only type of system I can think of where your life might be "bound up in one piece of hardware."

    One thing I can say, I don't want my whole life bound up in a single dedicated pay service. Not when it's so easy to remote access my own systems or even just take the data with me (via USB drive or some such). Why pay someone else to keep my data for me when I can keep it myself for free? On top of that, I feel much safer securing my own data. I don't want to worry about someone snooping without a warrant.

    People want to get access wherever they are, from whatever device they're using."

    I already have this ability without this service. Of course, this service will probably sell. I keep seeing ads for a remote access service on TV. It amazes me every time I see it. I think to myself, people really pay for a service that lets your computer do something it could already do? Wow. I wonder if I could sell a service that changes your wallpaper for you once a month? Of course you would have to supply your own wallpaper.

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  12. a bit more than that (speculation) by free+space · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the article
    the software will let people share and access their information without having to know where a certain e-mail or photo is stored

    from that, and from the diagram here I'm guessing that they are developing an API for 'peer to peer' web applications, i.e the applications are distributed over multiple servers and hosting companies but to each other and to the programmer they're part of the same environment.
    Also, they seem to depend on search a lot, and want to use it instead of traditional databases. This makes sense since a distributed application wouldn't be written to connect to a hardcoded address but to request some piece of information "wherever it is".

    Whether in practice that's a good or bad idea remains to be seen, but it is interesting.

  13. Re:Bastards. by MarkWatson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow Tim, that was quite a little rant. Have you ever been to India? (If not, I have some travel photos at http://flickr.com/photos/mark_watson/sets/1622965/ - enjoy :-)

    Seriously, India has been investing heavily in education for decades, and they are justifiably reaping some well deserved benefits from that policy. Overall, I had a very positive feeling about India and the people there.

  14. Re:Bastards. by Tim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Wow Tim, that was quite a little rant. Have you ever been to India? (If not, I have some travel photos at...enjoy :-)

    Those are great snapshots, Mark. They really change the substance of my argument. After all, a few vacation photos tell the whole story of India better than the many, many, many, resources that tell us that India is a third-world country.

    India has one of the worst infant mortality rates on the planet, they have a sickening gap between rich and poor, they have high rates of diseases that are all but eradicated in the first world, and they have...suburbs in Bangalore.

    The reality of the situation is very simple: labor in India is cheap because it is a very poor country. They have abysmal standards for public health, medicine and sanitation, and tens of thousands of people die every year from diseases that are completely preventable. International aid organizations funnel billions of dollars a year into the country to fight things like polio and malaria, and meanwhile, the Indian goverment spends massive amounts of money on technical education that benefits only a relative few members of the highest castes.

    It would be easy for the USA to compete on cost of labor, if we allowed our infrastructure to degrade to match that of a third-world country. If we stopped filtering our water, treating our sewage, and housing our homeless (just in the poor regions, of course), we could save billions on taxes. Then, we could deny higher education to 2/3rds of our students, label them as "laborers" or "merchants" and tell them that they could never aspire to a higher standard of living, due to birthright. Think of the savings!

    Yessir, we could make those changes, and we would almost certainly become internationally "competitive"...I wonder why we don't?

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