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Belgian Gov't requires ODF From 09/2008

An anonymous reader writes "The Belgian government has decided all government agencies will be required to use only open document standards from September 2008 onwards. One year earlier, they should be able to read them. In practice this means only ODF will be supported, although OpenXML will be considered if it becomes an accepted standard, and enough applications use it. According to a Belgian Microsoft-spokesman, Microsoft is considering supporting ODF (article in Dutch)."

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  1. Yeah, right. by SpooForBrains · · Score: 5, Insightful
    According to a Belgian Microsoft-spokesman, Microsoft is considering supporting ODF (article in Dutch)


    Four little words. Cold day in Hell. Some reason will be found in a few months to delay the decision until Microsoft's format can be considered instead. When it comes to governments, money still talks ... *sigh*

    of course, I'd LOVE to be proved wrong, but where is the great German Linux migration, hmm?
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    1. Re:Yeah, right. by fishdan · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The point is that once it has become an issue, it will always be considered as an alternative -- much like the spread of Firefox. Even if odf fails in Germany (which I'm not conceding yet btw), fails in Massachussetts, fails in Argentina, etc etc, one day it will succeed somewhere.

      What's really needed here is more than just a top level city/state/country decision. How many people are using odf in their daily lives? What killed WordPerfect was that they could not open Word Documents. Try sending out a few odf's every now and then and do YOUR part to show that it is being used. When you get the email back saying that it could not be opened, you'll have your OpenOffice and Open Document speech all ready to go. "Open Office opens all MSFT documents PLUS odf and does x y and z!"

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  2. Again ?! by GrosTuba · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can tell they've definitely made up their minds !!!

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  3. "considering" by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MS is "considering" supporting ODF. They will continue to "consider" it and will go so far as to "almost promise" that ODF support will come. Once the Belgian government signs another contract with Microsoft based on the "near promises" and "strongly worded statements indicating that MS will indeed support ODF," Microsoft will decide that it's not feasible. They simply won't have the resources to devote to such a task.

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  4. *ONLY* open document standards? AWESOME! by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You know what that means, right? It means that not accepting MS Office files is just the tip of the iceberg. It means every other format the government uses will have to be open too, including audio/video codecs, and -- best yet -- CAD FORMATS!

    As a civil engineering student and Free Software advocate, this is really exciting, because right now AutoCAD has a near-monopoly on CAD for civil engineering applications, to the point where governments often require its native format (.DWG, .DXF) for contract proposals and such. Don't get me wrong -- AutoCAD isn't a bad program, but it's a Windows-only one, which makes me constantly frustrated at work. Mandating use of an open standard format might give a boost to competing, cross platform, software.

    Incidentally, I ran across this website that has a lot of good information about this: the Open Design Alliance. From their FAQ:

    Why is the Open Design Alliance necessary?

    Despite the common availability of neutral file formats, such as IGES and STEP, the vast majority CAD drawings are stored in proprietary formats. The best-known of these is Autodesk's DWG file format. DWG has, for many years, been far and away the world's most popular format for the storage and exchange of 2D and 3D CAD drawings, with billions of important drawings in this format around the world. With an estimated 5 million seats of AutoCAD sold throughout the world, AutoCAD is in a monopoly position within its market segment, where no competing product could be successful without the ability to read and write DWG files.

    Beyond this, DWG files have been used to store the designs of publicly funded roads and bridges, and US and other government contracts often explicitly require that drawing data be stored in DWG format. Autodesk has declined to publish the format or to make libraries available to read and write DWG files to those companies it considers competitors. The Open Design Alliance was originally founded as the OpenDWG Alliance in 1998 to provide an open specification for OpenDWG (it's version of the DWG format), and to provide program libraries -- to anyone who wanted them -- for reading and writing OpenDWG files.

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  5. MS Support of ODF by should_be_linear · · Score: 5, Funny

    As MS employee, I can promiss we will not only support ODF, but extend ODF to many new ways our customers are excited to experience.

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  6. Translation from a belgian by cazzazullu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here you go guys:

    Government bans Microsoft-documents

    From September 2008 onwards all digital office-documents of the federal
    government wil be ODF-files.

    ODF or open document format is a file format for office documents that
    was officially accepted last month by the international
    standards-organisation ISO.

    It concerns an "open standard", that can be used at will by software
    developers to create applications. ODF is therefor a potential
    concurrent for the own file formats the software giant Microsoft uses
    in its office software Microsoft Office.

    The federal ministrial counsel took the radical decision last friday to
    make the ODF-standards obligatory from September 2008 onwards for all
    federal governmental services. One year earlier all services must
    already be able to read the ODF documents. According to the magazine IT
    Professional Belgium is the first country in the world to take such
    measures, and thus de facto forbids the usage of the Microsoft formats.

    However the door isn't entirely closed for Microsoft. The company now
    has the choise: either they open their programs for ODF-files, or they
    develop a standard themselves that can be used next to ODF. The most
    important candidate for the latter is the by Microsoft designed Open
    XML.

    But according to Peter Strickx, who is responsible for software
    standards at the federal government, Open XML has to be first
    officially recognized and there have to be enough applications
    supporting the format. According to Microsoft spokesman Frank De Graeve
    they also consider supporting ODF in the Office software.

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  7. Re:Not yet by lord_rob+the+only+on · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't forget that, even Belgium is a small country, its captial city is Brussels, which is also the capital of Europe. Given Europe recent action against Microsoft Windows Media player and all, I wouldn't be so indifferent of that decision.

  8. HTML all over again? by andrewman327 · · Score: 5, Funny
    I am very annoyed by Microsoft's additions to html in FrontPage. Fortunately it seems that they cannot do the same type of thing with ODF, as it is a more protected format.

    As much as I am ashamed to admit it, however, I use OpenOffice but save in the .doc format.

    Maybe what we need is a support group to expand odf. Let me start.

    "Hi, I'm Andrew and I have been using .doc for ten years."

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  9. Re:Not yet by Kjella · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget that, even Belgium is a small country, its captial city is Brussels, which is also the capital of Europe.

    Brussels is the seat of CoEU, EC and EP and is unofficially called the capital of the EU, but it's not official. Also Europe != EU != Euro-countries. We're in Europe, but like hell if Brussels is any sort of capital for us.

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  10. Ethics of Open Source by Potor · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Great news! I live and work in Belgium, and am quite busy promoting OSS whenever possible. My university does not yet support OOo, or even FF/Thunderbird (although I use all three). Hopefully this decision of the Federal government will have a knock-down effect, and lead other sectors to a similar conversion. It is funny to see people put such value in installing copied versions of MS Office when OOo is so easy to obtain and use.

    On a related note, I edit a well-established, peer-reviewed academic journal, and am presently putting together an issue on the ethics of open source software (to appear June, 2007). Anyone who may be interested in contributing is invited to email me, and I'll send the CFP.