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Kent State Banning Athletes from Using Facebook
denebian devil links to a Columbus Dispatch story about athletes at Kent State being forbidden to use Facebook — "not by the Web site, but by university administrators."
From the article: "Athletics Director Laing Kennedy recently told student-athletes they have until Aug. 1 to remove their Facebook profiles, citing a need to protect both their identities and the university's image. "We're really concerned about the safety of our student-athletes and some of the personal information some of them have on there," he said. ... If student-athletes don't remove their profiles by the deadline, they risk losing their scholarships, he said. Coaches and athletics counselors will monitor the site for violators."
denebian devil continues "Arstechnica also has an interesting take on the subject. Makes you wonder why they even bother providing internet connections on college campuses."
Apparently, they just didn't learn their lesson!! Now they are just trying to be controlling digitally.
... under "Prior Restraint." (Which, I'm told, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected.)
A state university with this kind of policy is setting themselves up for the mother of all First Amendment lawsuits. What an amazingly-dumb waste of university funding.
is this even legal? I would think that what an adult choses to do in their provate time is their business... besides that, how are they any more or less safe on face book than on any internet site/chatroom in which they provide a large amount of information about themselves...
I suspect that this has far more to do with the uni wanting to protect its image - which for some reason it believes would be more damaged by people being on face-book than than this action to put stupid restrictions over what people can do
*''I can't believe it's not a hyperlink.''
Protect the university's image
"Our students don't drink! Honest"
I can attest to the fact that lots of students post drinking photos, even joining groups like "I was drunk when my facebook profile photo was taken". Kent state is worried about this. While I'm guessing they're wringing their hands at such open bragging about underage drinking that sort of thing is a fact of life, from long before facebook existed.
The Cheese Stands Alone.
The Duke lacrosse team will do for college sports what Janet Jackson did for network TV. Nobody should be surprised that college sports don't want any more such negative publicity, and anyone who has used Facebook knows that its users are almost as dumb as Myspace users when it comes to posting incriminating pictures and other details of their lives. (Almost. Not quite. At least these are college students instead of pedophiles, adolescents, and aspiring criminals).
I think this violates the first amendment "Congress
shall make no law
peaceably to assemble". This is an implicit freedom of association issue, and as a
state funded school, Kent State has an obligation to uphold the constitution.
They do as an institution with an internet connection, have the right to
blacklist certain websites at their ISP level, which would probably be the best
technological solution, which would block students from using the account on
campus. But they are going after 'athletes' in particular, which is a viscious form of
discriminiation.
They feel that they need to 'protect their image', and student athletes form
a higher percentage of that 'image' than should really be the case. As much as I like
sports, we have elevated their role in college policy to an absurd level. Money talks.
But if a student has an athletic scholarship, he should be considered a student, first and
foremost, and no additional restrictions on being a student should be allowed. Sure, kick
them off the team if you want to, but by tying their student status to this rule, you are
holding them hostage, and to a different standard than your regular student. This is unfair
to them, especially as they are generating more revenue for you than the average student.
Sure maybe the student may be giving stalkers information, or embarrasing the
school. But that could be true of any student. So should the university ban all
cameras on campus, as not to show any drunken students? Ban all contact with the
outside world? These are students, not prisoners, and if they want to hand over their
information for stalkers, that is their right. They are being stupid, but that is their right.
If the university doesn't want them stalked on campus, it should beef up campus security.
They are not the university's 'asset', they are it's student, and it is supposed to be providing
them a service, not the other way around. Don't treat them as a revenue stream, and don't
violate the spirit of the constitution.
Rhymes that keep their secrets will unfold behind the clouds.There upon the rainbow is the answer to a neverending story
Is this even enforceable? Last time I remember checking, facebook didn't provide any way to check that a person's registered profile is actually them, outside of saying the email is from the actual school. Last year my friend registered himself as Kwami Brown and started poking all the guys on the hall.
What's to stop someone from taking a Kent State player's identity and creating a fake profile of them?
...away from the internet as a network for data exchange, and towards the internet as a one-way pipe by which to push content your way.
Reality has a conservative bias: it conserves mass, energy, momentum...
It is fairly obvious that the school is less concerned with preventing students from engaging in illegal activity and undesirable behavior than it is with preventing it from becoming public knowledge that students are engaging in illegal activity and undesirable behavior. If they had come out and said, "If we catch you confessing to activities that violate our code of conduct, you will face disciplinary action", that would be quite another thing altogether. (Not that people wouldn't complain, I'm just saying I think they could make a pretty decent defense of their actions.)
Can anyone say Ohio National Guard?
Modded as... interesting? Simply slashdotalicious.
There has to be some special, super-duper mod that's available, just once per year - perhaps made of some sort of extra-shiny tinfoil - that is reserved for this sort of thing.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
They do realize that the students can just set up another account under a nickname, leave out what college they go to (or create a pseudo-name for it), and continue on they merry drunken, misguided way.
"Makes you wonder why they even bother providing internet connections on college campuses."
;)
Oh you know, research, email, that sort of thing. This may surprise you but the original intent of providing internet access was not to pass around mp3's, pictures of yourself drunk, and porn (well, that last one is debatable).
You would think students over the years would have gotten better about using the internet but it seems it has regressed quite a bit. I am reminded of reports of students at the university where I work getting busted selling drugs on facebook and posting pictures of themselves doing illegal things. In the papers they always seem quoted as indignantly saying "I didn't know the police could monitor that stuff, that is really scary" as though cops looking at facebook was on par with warrant-less wiretapping.
Look, I'm a Fight The Power, Go EFF, Die MPAA kinda guy. However, the way I see it is if a school is giving you tens of thousands of dollars for your education and they decide they want you to either (1) not advertise that you are a drunken asshole all over the net, or (2) risk losing that free money, then that is their right. I think it is a little harsh to ban facebook altogether, I think I might have seen one or two actual mature entries in it, but that is certainly on more solid legal ground than subjectively taking it on a case by case basis.
Also, you can look at it as preparing these student athletes for the future. If they make it to the pros and become the typical corporate whore, they will have to get used to being told how to act, what to say, and what to do. College is actually preparing them for the real world
Finkployd
This stuff is getting ridiculous. These are fucking adults we're talking about here. The concern sure as hell isn't about safety. "Privacy issues"? They are concerned about privacy so they -monitor- what their students do on their own time?
That's why you set up your privacy settings so that only your friends can see the stupid ass shit you do. If security busts you then you know your "friends" really aren't.
You mean we have a constitutional right to a college scholarship?
I wish I knew that earlier.
I'm a Kent student. And while I know this is by far not universal among the athletes at this campus, at least going by the ones who I've seen in classes:
Good, if not good enough. Because they're getting a ridiculous amount of money in the form of scholarships and such, in exchange for which they do terribly in classes (dragging their groups down with them, much of the time), drink as much or more as anybody else here (which is no small amount) and then go throw a ball around every now and then in exchange.
No, I don't have sympathy. Stop showing off your drinking skills and go to class. I'd be happier if they'd prevent them from drinking and tell them to stop using the team as an excuse to ditch classwork when they apparently have plenty of time for parties. Considering very few of them are going to be able to rely on sports as a career, I'd be happier if the University was less concerned with image and more concerned with the fact that the images are often of underaged students drinking alcohol. But... oh, right. I go to a state school in Ohio. Chances of that happening... slightly less than zero. They'll probably end up cutting the whole ban later due to lack of funds for enforcement.
A starter on our basketball team (a computer engineering major no less!) got pranked pretty hard by an opposing school after an elaborate IM ruse that all started from someone acquiring his AIM screen name off his facebook account. OTOH I think people should really just use a bit more common sense about this stuff and realize that there are potential repercussions for putting this stuff outthere. I just can't shake the feeling that facebook is slowly going to go away. Especially as more and more administrative types begin using it under the guise of students.