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Top off Your Parking Meter with a Cell Call

dstone writes "Vancouver, Canada has just become the first major city in North America to allow motorists to feed their parking meters with their cell phone. Drivers call a number on each meter, the system recognizes them by Caller ID, they enter how many minutes they want, and that's it. The system sends them a reminder text message before their time is up and they can extend their time remotely. The catch? The company contracted to provide the service, Verrus, makes their money through a 30-cent 'convenience fee.' Less pockets full of change, less parking tickets, seems like a step forward."

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  1. Wrong Number? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So do you trade parking meter stickers with Lexus guy then?

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    1. Re:Wrong Number? by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you're thinking of private lots (where this has been available for years). This is the first roll-out that covers all of the coin-meters on the sides of the street.

      It seems like a good idea, however the cynical side of me also wonders that if in addition text messaging the owner of the vehicle when the payment is about to expire, it might also be text messaging the parking enforcement officer for the area to keep an eye out in areas with lots of meters that are expiring at the same time so they know where to concentrate their "efforts"...

      It would also be nice if they could do this as a straight text message by phone instead of by voice. Could be a lot faster...

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    2. Re:Wrong Number? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Funny

      lots of meters that are expiring at the same time so they know where to concentrate their "efforts"

      So then...I can play "make the cops run around" by just getting a bunch of my friends on opposite sides of the street to buy only 15 minutes at a time and renew within the last 7 seconds?

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  2. Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by OYAHHH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If,

    I'm not way off-track one of the purposes of a parking meter is the annoyance feature. Keeps a set of rich guys from pumping quarters in it all day long without any negative consequences for them.

    This tech enables that sort of behavior.

    And then the poor slobs get to walk a half a mile just to get to the courthouse.....

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    1. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, here in Calgary CANADA, there's been a big hubub recently about people parking all day at parking meters and just paying the fine. It was cheaper to pay the $25 fine than to pay $28 for eight hours of parking.
      Apparently a secretary for couple of law offices would regularily just walk into city hall with a list of license numbers of the partners and pay off all the fines on-masse

      City of Calgary is considering raising the daily fine to $300 now

    2. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by danzona · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here in Chicago, most parking meters have a time limit for parking. So it will say 25c / 30 minutes, 2 hour limit.

      In Chicago, it appears that enforcement of this is half hearted (compared with places like Carmel where they use chalk to mark the tires to enforce the time limit).

      Anyway, it would not be hard for the cell phone parking meter to enforce the time limit. So after 4 quarters, the parking meter won't take any more money and the driver has to move.

      Wouldn't it be great if the parking meter could tell that you hadn't paid or moved the car and then issued the cell phone an instant meter violation charge? I believe that is $50 in Chicago. Plus a 30 cent convenience fee.

    3. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by admdrew · · Score: 3, Insightful
      i have [sic] him holy hell about vandilizing my car..
      it was all in good fun though..

      Congrats, asshole. Way to ruin a guy's day while he was doing his job. We've all been pissed about parking tickets, but the onus is on the owner of the car to make sure the meter is paid, not the person in charge of writing tickets. Why should you expect leniency from a cop who probably has to do that all day? To him, your car is no more important than the thousands of others out there.

    4. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Bookswinters · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Inconvenience is a major feature of parking meters, as they are largely designed to dissuade people from parking curbside long term. Case in point, check out these parking meter fees near Times Square in New York:

      1 hour: $2; 2 hours: $5; 3 hours: $9

      Notice how the pricing is scaled to deter long term parking. These machines DO NOT TAKE BILLS, so you must carry huge amounts of quarters with you.

      Conclusion: If cell phone payment methods become widespread in the US, I expect either sharp rate increases or maximum time limits before you must return to the machine to compensate for the removal of inconvenience.

    5. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by jelloshotgun · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's still $15 in Brookline.

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    6. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 4, Funny

      Grocery store! You lazy slob. Grow your own wheat.

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    7. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Vip · · Score: 3, Informative

      The $300 fine is for businesses, like paper shredding companies. General public would have a $40 fine.

      The City of Calgary is also going with catching drivers who stay at the meter too long.

      There's also talk of using a similar parking meter system as described in TFA.

      Vip

    8. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by riflemann · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have a solution to this in many European cities:

      Wheelclamps.

      To Mr RichBastard, paying a fine is no deterrent. Mr RichBastard having to wait an hour or two for the guys with the wheel clamp keys is gonna re-think his parking strategy.

      Especially when they (purposely) take their time coming to unclamp you.

    9. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by toleraen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the laws are becoming more and more rigid (mandatory life sentences, etc).

      You're blaming the freakin' meter maid for mandatory life sentences?! While I agree that the police might be given more rights than they should, you're talking about the person that's hired to make sure your dumbass is fairly paying for general road repairs! What, do you blame the janitor for having to wash your hands after taking a crap at work?

    10. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by really? · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is some law against damaging them things.

      Now, depending on the "boot" and on your wheels, there are other ways. My brother, has a BUNCH of booths - as in more than 20 - in a corner of his yard. He drives a Nissan SUV with BIG ass off road tyres. If he returns to his car and finds it "booted", he lets the air out of the tyre, and bends a small piece of the booth. He then removes the boot, bends back the small piece, re-inflates the tire with a small electric pump he always has in the back, throws the boot in his car and drives away. I asked him why he didn't just leave the boot behind, and he said "I wouldn't want anyone to take it and sell it for scrap metal." Once every few months he loads all the boots in his car and "dumps" them at the gate of one the smaller police stations in the town, since in the country he lives in right now it's the cops that put the boots on. He thinks this is funny.

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  3. Re:convenience fees by BunnyClaws · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Very true. I would be happy to pay the extra 30 cents for the convenience of not having to look for change. I never have change on me. Now what I would really like is for vending machines to take debit cards because once again I never have change on me. I am all about convenience which is the reason I pay an extra dollar for milk from Walgreens instead of going to the grocery store.

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  4. "Convenience" fees! Heh. by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember the first time (too many years back, now) that I experienced Convenience while I was in line at a McDonalds grabbing a burger on my way someplace. I told the cashier I wanted a Diet Coke as my combo drink. She handed me the now-expected empty cup and told me that I would be getting the drink from the "Convenience Center" across the store.

    "Convenient for who?" I asked. And she told me, unblinkingly, that it had in fact really made their job a lot easier.

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    1. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by preppypoof · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i find the free refills and mixable drinks pretty convenient...

    2. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't claim you're anti-establishment as some sort of justification of your con jobs. Your actions are the ones driving companies to do the shit they do.

    3. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by vistic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thief? Give me a break.

      Well the popcorn refills where I worked at were "same visit only"... but I'd say about 75% of the people who got popcorn refills were bringing in bags that were clearly from weeks ago (sometimes they'd have movies on the bag from a year ago). Honestly, we the employees didn't much care and just gave them the refill. The managers only sort of cared.

      I actually was really annoyed by an AMC employee a few months ago. I was buying tickets for me and a friend... and I got the student discount on mine, but she refused to give me a discount on the other one, too. So I just bought one and then went to a different counter to buy another student ticket. But she saw me and made a big fuss about it saying "Don't sell him a student ticket! He just bought one from me!"

      She didn't HAVE to go out of her way to make a fuss about it. But she did.

      It was ridiculous to me, because that ticket money (which was still about $6.50 or more) wasn't even going to them, it was going to the movie studios and MPAA. Plus, I just don't know how she could care so much to be such a dick to me about it... she's only making minimum wage, and this is likely going to be the worst job she ever has. Back in my day at the movie theater I wouldn't have cared. And usually, most people who work there don't care, and just give you the student discount even if you don't show them your college ID. But oh no, not her. She took her job SERIOUSLY.

      And by the way, how irritating of you to be the kind of guy who goes out of his way to report people who are getting popcorn refills from past days... do you have no happiness in your life?

      I can imagine being the guy behind the counter, knowing full well this guy's popcorn bag is old, but being nice enough to refill it anyway so he can enjoy a movie and be happy. Then along comes another customer (in this case, you) making a big fuss about how this guy is a thief and how you know his popcorn bag is old, etc. It really doesn't make anyone's day better.

  5. more lazy people by jtaylor00 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Less pockets full of change, less parking tickets more people too lazy to walk down the street and burn off that big mac to put more change in the meter.

    Granted, there are some instances when this would be nice, but I think most people would use it because they are just plan lazy. Convenience, less exercise, and more food has made this nation very plump.

    Also, why would a city want to risk losing that much revenue from all those tickets?

  6. Choose your payment method: by telso · · Score: 5, Funny

    To use a washer, text the word "SLUG" to 91111.

  7. Scare quotes by kevin_conaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why the scare quotes around convenience fees? Is the submitter implying that the cell phone company should graciously provide this service for free? Or perhaps the fee isn't really a fee?

    Either way, editorializing in the summary is silly.

    1. Re:Scare quotes by bunions · · Score: 4, Insightful

      being able to put more time on your parking meter without running out to the curb in the rain sounds pretty fucking convenient to me. I pay a fee for convenience. Therefore it is a convenience fee. I don't see how this is confusing for anyone.

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  8. Meter stuffingt = bad by dotmax · · Score: 4, Informative
    In a lot of [U.S.] cities, running out to stuff another wad of quarters in the meter will get you a ticket, the concept being that metered parking is temporary parking. Curbside metered parking is designed for people who are going to get-in/get-out. If you're going to be somewhere all day you should either be using a parking garage or alternate transportation. In theory.

    This scheme seems like a bullshit technological antisolution that would only make the current street parking situation worse,

  9. Uh huh. Except... by penguinstorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) It bills to your credit card
    2) I don't have a credit card
    3) I don't like The Man tracking my activities, right down to where and when I park

    Just a thought.

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    1. Re:Uh huh. Except... by 5KVGhost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I don't like The Man tracking my activities, right down to where and when I park"

      You're concerned about The Man knowing where you park your registered motor vehicle, license plate clearly visible as required by law, on a public street? As you enter and exit your vehicle in public view. Yep, that's some highly sensitive and privileged information right there.

  10. We have that in England :) by jjeffrey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Verrus operate a similar system at the council car parks in York, England. It's great - finding the change was always a pain!

    They get the number of your cell phone from caller ID and store your vehicle registration plate and credit card details against it the first time you call. The next time you call you just tell it how many hours you want and enter the 4 digit code for the car park you are using. For an extra 10p you can get a reminder SMS. You are also free to call again and extend the parking.

    If you don't have your cell phone with you then you can use any phone, and just tap in your cell number and the PIN number you set the first time you called. You also use that PIN if you want to change credit card or vehicle registration numbers.

    The wardens have machines that have details of the electronically issued tickets on them, so they don't clamp you :)

  11. It's about the money by ezratrumpet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Man probably doesn't care about temporary parking vs. garage parking. If anything, the Man will encourage more use of temporary (aka parking meter) parking. Meters, when in use, make more money than parking garages. If the Man can keep the metered spaces full, it means more money for governmental projects.

  12. Assistance Required by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...feed their parking meters with their cell phone
    I'd like to try this, but I can't seem to fit my phone into the coin slot. Maybe if I bought a Razr?
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  13. Re:instead of cellphone... by Chirs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We've got something similar in some areas of Saskatoon, Canada. It's more like a preloaded parking card though.

    You swipe your card, meter deducts money from the card equal to the cost of the max amount of time you can park there. When you come back, you swipe again and the meter refunds the unused amount.