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Top off Your Parking Meter with a Cell Call

dstone writes "Vancouver, Canada has just become the first major city in North America to allow motorists to feed their parking meters with their cell phone. Drivers call a number on each meter, the system recognizes them by Caller ID, they enter how many minutes they want, and that's it. The system sends them a reminder text message before their time is up and they can extend their time remotely. The catch? The company contracted to provide the service, Verrus, makes their money through a 30-cent 'convenience fee.' Less pockets full of change, less parking tickets, seems like a step forward."

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  1. Wrong Number? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So do you trade parking meter stickers with Lexus guy then?

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    1. Re:Wrong Number? by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you're thinking of private lots (where this has been available for years). This is the first roll-out that covers all of the coin-meters on the sides of the street.

      It seems like a good idea, however the cynical side of me also wonders that if in addition text messaging the owner of the vehicle when the payment is about to expire, it might also be text messaging the parking enforcement officer for the area to keep an eye out in areas with lots of meters that are expiring at the same time so they know where to concentrate their "efforts"...

      It would also be nice if they could do this as a straight text message by phone instead of by voice. Could be a lot faster...

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    2. Re:Wrong Number? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Informative

      I paid for my parking like this 2 years ago in Vancouver.

      And you still didn't get a ticket?

      You must have an expensive cell phone bill ...

      But, it is mostly new to the US, I guess. I think Japan had it quite a long time ago, just like how with DoCoMo you can pay for vending machine purchases with your cell phone since at least the early 90s.

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    3. Re:Wrong Number? by Qybix · · Score: 2, Informative

      Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada has been using a private company to manage the cell phone payment for parking in public areas of the city starting in October 21, 2005. For more information please see link below...

      http://www.city.saskatoon.sk.ca/org/municipal_engi neering/parking_services/index.asp

      The companies website can be see at:

      http://www.new-parking.com/

      Qybix

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    4. Re:Wrong Number? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Funny

      lots of meters that are expiring at the same time so they know where to concentrate their "efforts"

      So then...I can play "make the cops run around" by just getting a bunch of my friends on opposite sides of the street to buy only 15 minutes at a time and renew within the last 7 seconds?

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  2. Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by OYAHHH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If,

    I'm not way off-track one of the purposes of a parking meter is the annoyance feature. Keeps a set of rich guys from pumping quarters in it all day long without any negative consequences for them.

    This tech enables that sort of behavior.

    And then the poor slobs get to walk a half a mile just to get to the courthouse.....

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    1. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, here in Calgary CANADA, there's been a big hubub recently about people parking all day at parking meters and just paying the fine. It was cheaper to pay the $25 fine than to pay $28 for eight hours of parking.
      Apparently a secretary for couple of law offices would regularily just walk into city hall with a list of license numbers of the partners and pay off all the fines on-masse

      City of Calgary is considering raising the daily fine to $300 now

    2. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by danzona · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here in Chicago, most parking meters have a time limit for parking. So it will say 25c / 30 minutes, 2 hour limit.

      In Chicago, it appears that enforcement of this is half hearted (compared with places like Carmel where they use chalk to mark the tires to enforce the time limit).

      Anyway, it would not be hard for the cell phone parking meter to enforce the time limit. So after 4 quarters, the parking meter won't take any more money and the driver has to move.

      Wouldn't it be great if the parking meter could tell that you hadn't paid or moved the car and then issued the cell phone an instant meter violation charge? I believe that is $50 in Chicago. Plus a 30 cent convenience fee.

    3. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by dirty · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We had that problem in Philadelphia, so they just increased the ticket price rather than actually deal with the cost of parking in the city.

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    4. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by admdrew · · Score: 3, Insightful
      i have [sic] him holy hell about vandilizing my car..
      it was all in good fun though..

      Congrats, asshole. Way to ruin a guy's day while he was doing his job. We've all been pissed about parking tickets, but the onus is on the owner of the car to make sure the meter is paid, not the person in charge of writing tickets. Why should you expect leniency from a cop who probably has to do that all day? To him, your car is no more important than the thousands of others out there.

    5. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Bookswinters · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Inconvenience is a major feature of parking meters, as they are largely designed to dissuade people from parking curbside long term. Case in point, check out these parking meter fees near Times Square in New York:

      1 hour: $2; 2 hours: $5; 3 hours: $9

      Notice how the pricing is scaled to deter long term parking. These machines DO NOT TAKE BILLS, so you must carry huge amounts of quarters with you.

      Conclusion: If cell phone payment methods become widespread in the US, I expect either sharp rate increases or maximum time limits before you must return to the machine to compensate for the removal of inconvenience.

    6. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know a semi-disabled person that gets groceries delivered to their house. Not all people who use the service are "lazy" - you should think a little beyond your own realm before posting comments like that...

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    7. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by jelloshotgun · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's still $15 in Brookline.

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    8. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Anthracks · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Boston has become Nazis with regard to parking. It's nice if you live there, since there's half a chance now you can actually park on your own street. But the last time I parked illegally (about a year ago, before I had a local permit), they towed my car and I had over $100 in fines! It's definitely worth it to spend an extra few minutes cruising for a meter than chancing the "resident parking only" areas. Plus all the meters are free from 8pm-8am, and all day on Sundays.

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    9. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 4, Funny

      Grocery store! You lazy slob. Grow your own wheat.

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    10. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by SparkEE · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He gave "have him holy hell about vandilizing" his car with the chaulk. So, it isn't about the guy doing his job, is about the method that was employed. How is it okay for the meter person to draw on your tires like that? If I spent time cleaning my tires and wheels just to have chaulk on them for NOT VIOLATING anything, I'd be miffed also. Granted, I'd probably just forget about, but I understand where the GP's comming from.

      In Boston, they use the big yellow locks on the wheels (can't recall the name) for serious parking offenses. That kinda bugs me too because they must really destroy the wheels. Gives me real incentive to just use a gargage.

    11. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by bunions · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What makes him an asshole? Because he took a job giving out tickets to people who knowingly break the law? How old are you, twelve?

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    12. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Vip · · Score: 3, Informative

      The $300 fine is for businesses, like paper shredding companies. General public would have a $40 fine.

      The City of Calgary is also going with catching drivers who stay at the meter too long.

      There's also talk of using a similar parking meter system as described in TFA.

      Vip

    13. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by riflemann · · Score: 4, Informative

      They have a solution to this in many European cities:

      Wheelclamps.

      To Mr RichBastard, paying a fine is no deterrent. Mr RichBastard having to wait an hour or two for the guys with the wheel clamp keys is gonna re-think his parking strategy.

      Especially when they (purposely) take their time coming to unclamp you.

    14. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by Icculus · · Score: 2, Funny
      Three more words (or 2 if you count a hyphenated word as one):

      Angle-grinder Man

    15. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by toleraen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the laws are becoming more and more rigid (mandatory life sentences, etc).

      You're blaming the freakin' meter maid for mandatory life sentences?! While I agree that the police might be given more rights than they should, you're talking about the person that's hired to make sure your dumbass is fairly paying for general road repairs! What, do you blame the janitor for having to wash your hands after taking a crap at work?

    16. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by zaphod_es · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oh what joy to get towed in Boston and only pay $100

      Come to London http://www.westminster.gov.uk/transportandstreets/ parking/controlledparkingzones/incorrect.cfm and this is the deal:

      Initial fine £100 (US$182) This is discounted by 50% if you pay within 14 days
      Not long after being ticketed you are likely to be clamped and the release fee is £65
      And then they will tow you for only an additional £165

      That adds up to £330 ($500) and somehow there always seems to be an extra charge - and that does not count the damage done to your car. If you are a stranger driving in London be afraid, be very afraid!

    17. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think they go around chalking more often. Like every hour. So when they make the third mark they know you've been there too long. Although I guess it obviously would vary based on how many cops there are.

      And while I rarely side with the police on stuff like this, honestly, that's about the easiest and least privacy-invading way to prevent mistakes. Yes, they could go around writing down all the plates, or just photographing the cars, or even have video cameras up, but I'd rather have chalk. They could stick notes on the car, but that's just pointless litter when most people will be gone after one of them. (If they mark the tires, they presumably mark a specific place on them, so if you move the car, the mark's not in the right place. Or they could just use different colors on different streets.)

      Plus, now there's an opening for 'The Anti-Chalk', a superhero who goes around erasing the marks off cars so people don't get tickets. ;) Which would be, like, the most trivial superhero job in the universe. Damp-Cloth Man. You could rig a wet-nap to the side of your shoe or something.

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    18. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by really? · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is some law against damaging them things.

      Now, depending on the "boot" and on your wheels, there are other ways. My brother, has a BUNCH of booths - as in more than 20 - in a corner of his yard. He drives a Nissan SUV with BIG ass off road tyres. If he returns to his car and finds it "booted", he lets the air out of the tyre, and bends a small piece of the booth. He then removes the boot, bends back the small piece, re-inflates the tire with a small electric pump he always has in the back, throws the boot in his car and drives away. I asked him why he didn't just leave the boot behind, and he said "I wouldn't want anyone to take it and sell it for scrap metal." Once every few months he loads all the boots in his car and "dumps" them at the gate of one the smaller police stations in the town, since in the country he lives in right now it's the cops that put the boots on. He thinks this is funny.

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    19. Re:Kinda defeats a parking meter feature by pthisis · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wow, this whole thread is interesting, I've never heard of 'time limits' on public parking...much less having a cop use chalk in some way to mark your tires to see if you moved or not...I take it this is more of a NE US coastal thing?

      No, it's all over the US. In the South, I've seen it in Raleigh, Fayetteville, and Atlanta.

      The issue is that metered parking is there for people to, say, go out and get lunch or a haircut or whatever. If you're an employee who's going to be there all day, parking a block or two away isn't a huge deal.

      Normally areas are marked "2 hour parking" or whatever. The traffic cops come around and mark the tire treads (_not_ the sides of the tires--they want the chalk in a spot where it wears off as soon as the car moves) with chalk periodically, and if they come back and see a car they'd previously marked has been there for over 2 hours they ticket.

      I'd lived in areas that did it for _years_ before someone pointed it out to me.

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  3. Competition by wlkrt0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So does this mean that every city in Canada will be able to use a different service provider?
    While it would be feasible to maintain an account with several providers in different cities, it seems like a government-sponsered portal would make more sense than required accounts to be created directly on the company site. Maybe this won't be an issue since most of one's parking would be in one city; just a thought.

  4. Re:convenience fees by BunnyClaws · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Very true. I would be happy to pay the extra 30 cents for the convenience of not having to look for change. I never have change on me. Now what I would really like is for vending machines to take debit cards because once again I never have change on me. I am all about convenience which is the reason I pay an extra dollar for milk from Walgreens instead of going to the grocery store.

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  5. "Convenience" fees! Heh. by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember the first time (too many years back, now) that I experienced Convenience while I was in line at a McDonalds grabbing a burger on my way someplace. I told the cashier I wanted a Diet Coke as my combo drink. She handed me the now-expected empty cup and told me that I would be getting the drink from the "Convenience Center" across the store.

    "Convenient for who?" I asked. And she told me, unblinkingly, that it had in fact really made their job a lot easier.

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    1. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by preppypoof · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i find the free refills and mixable drinks pretty convenient...

    2. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "McDonaldsisation" is actually what I've heard that referred to. And it's not limited to your soft drink :

      - You get your cutelery yourself
      - You get straws yourself
      - You clear up after yourself (disposing in the trash

      And then on a wider levels

      - At the coffee shop, your add your own extra (milk, sugar, etc.)
      - At the supermarket you collect your own groceries (compare this to the grocers at the market, or of the '40s and '50s)
      - You server yourself gas (if you're not in NJ)

      However, these are by no means negative. You get to choose exactly what you want, prices are cheaper and queues are shortened.

    3. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and with all that put on the customer, some actually have the balls to leave out a tip jar.

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    4. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't claim you're anti-establishment as some sort of justification of your con jobs. Your actions are the ones driving companies to do the shit they do.

    5. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by Irish_Samurai · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What does the Convienience Island have to do with you stealing shit? Your attempts to justify your behavior as a result of some corporations actions are ridiculous. You are still responsible for your actions.

      A for the snotty little stab at my perception, at least I can recognize when I 'm being a theiving douchebag. If you want to really vote with your dollar, your gonna have to go without.

      Your popcorn wasn't subsidized by advertising at the movie theater. The advertising was put there to create a new revenue stream becuase the theaters were losing money. Probably because a large amount of people justify their deceitful behavior with some sort of magic logic where they are the good guy screwing over the evil corporation.

      You are a factor buddy, face it.

    6. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by vistic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thief? Give me a break.

      Well the popcorn refills where I worked at were "same visit only"... but I'd say about 75% of the people who got popcorn refills were bringing in bags that were clearly from weeks ago (sometimes they'd have movies on the bag from a year ago). Honestly, we the employees didn't much care and just gave them the refill. The managers only sort of cared.

      I actually was really annoyed by an AMC employee a few months ago. I was buying tickets for me and a friend... and I got the student discount on mine, but she refused to give me a discount on the other one, too. So I just bought one and then went to a different counter to buy another student ticket. But she saw me and made a big fuss about it saying "Don't sell him a student ticket! He just bought one from me!"

      She didn't HAVE to go out of her way to make a fuss about it. But she did.

      It was ridiculous to me, because that ticket money (which was still about $6.50 or more) wasn't even going to them, it was going to the movie studios and MPAA. Plus, I just don't know how she could care so much to be such a dick to me about it... she's only making minimum wage, and this is likely going to be the worst job she ever has. Back in my day at the movie theater I wouldn't have cared. And usually, most people who work there don't care, and just give you the student discount even if you don't show them your college ID. But oh no, not her. She took her job SERIOUSLY.

      And by the way, how irritating of you to be the kind of guy who goes out of his way to report people who are getting popcorn refills from past days... do you have no happiness in your life?

      I can imagine being the guy behind the counter, knowing full well this guy's popcorn bag is old, but being nice enough to refill it anyway so he can enjoy a movie and be happy. Then along comes another customer (in this case, you) making a big fuss about how this guy is a thief and how you know his popcorn bag is old, etc. It really doesn't make anyone's day better.

    7. Re:"Convenience" fees! Heh. by vistic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think I mentioned this a few posts up... but movie theaters generally throw out a couple of huge trash bags full of popcorn at the end of every day. Knowing better, I can honestly say that someone getting a free refill on popcorn is absolutely not going to increase popcorn prices for anyone else at all.

      And in any case, I don't think a thing like this is worth being a dick about to other people and ruining their day. You've lost perspective.

      You're the guy that makes employees' lives hell, but then we go back the break room and share stories about this horrible customer who made a big deal about something, and that at least helps make things a little better.

  6. more lazy people by jtaylor00 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Less pockets full of change, less parking tickets more people too lazy to walk down the street and burn off that big mac to put more change in the meter.

    Granted, there are some instances when this would be nice, but I think most people would use it because they are just plan lazy. Convenience, less exercise, and more food has made this nation very plump.

    Also, why would a city want to risk losing that much revenue from all those tickets?

    1. Re:more lazy people by jtaylor00 · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it just means that you are using a parking spot for more than its original intended time period. The whole point of parking meters is to provide short term rotating parking that many people can use throughout the day. By forcing you to go back to the actual meter to pay, it makes you be more efficient at running errands downtown.

      Now, putting simple economics into play, one event might eventually result of these types of meters. If I work downtown, I can either 1) pay $20 to park in a garage, or 2) tap a button on my phone every couple of hours to pay for parking. #2 even done 8 times a day is $2.40 in 'convenience' fees plus say $0.25 per hour. So ballpark at $5 for the whole parking day. Now, no one would use a garage, opting instead to park on the street - it's cheaper. People complaing about everyone using spots for 8-10 hours a day. Result: $0.25 per hour turns into $2.00 - $3.00 per hour. Suddenly, a convenience for some turns into a 1000% hike in prices for everyone else.

  7. Choose your payment method: by telso · · Score: 5, Funny

    To use a washer, text the word "SLUG" to 91111.

  8. Scare quotes by kevin_conaway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why the scare quotes around convenience fees? Is the submitter implying that the cell phone company should graciously provide this service for free? Or perhaps the fee isn't really a fee?

    Either way, editorializing in the summary is silly.

    1. Re:Scare quotes by bunions · · Score: 4, Insightful

      being able to put more time on your parking meter without running out to the curb in the rain sounds pretty fucking convenient to me. I pay a fee for convenience. Therefore it is a convenience fee. I don't see how this is confusing for anyone.

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    2. Re:Scare quotes by penguinstorm · · Score: 2

      The cell phone company is not providing the service.

      The concept of a "convenience fee" for a solution which is:
      1) Technologically more advanced
      2) Cheaper for the solution provider to operate (no meters to empty etc.)
      3) Not, frankly, all that convenient given that I have to make a call, have a credit card etc.

      is a bit of a misnomer.

      I love paying those "convenience fees" at banks, while they fire staff and save more money. It's great!

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    3. Re:Scare quotes by bunions · · Score: 2, Interesting
      They still have to empty the meters. People can still pay by coin in case they (gasp) don't have a cellphone.

      it's pretty convenient if you remember that it rains pretty much all winter long in Vancouver and that you can get pretty wet standing there digging around for dimes as opposed to getting inside and then phoning in.

      It's not a misnomer at all. It is more convenient for you and the city (or someone) has to pay more in credit card processing costs.

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  9. Meter stuffingt = bad by dotmax · · Score: 4, Informative
    In a lot of [U.S.] cities, running out to stuff another wad of quarters in the meter will get you a ticket, the concept being that metered parking is temporary parking. Curbside metered parking is designed for people who are going to get-in/get-out. If you're going to be somewhere all day you should either be using a parking garage or alternate transportation. In theory.

    This scheme seems like a bullshit technological antisolution that would only make the current street parking situation worse,

    1. Re:Meter stuffingt = bad by Ocular+Magic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If it was strictly for get in/out quickly, wouldn't they just paint the curb green with a "XX minute parking" label on it?

    2. Re:Meter stuffingt = bad by RexRhino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In theory, meter parking is designed to make sure that parking is temporary... but in reality, it is simply a revenue grab by the city. It is just not polite for the government to say "WE WANT MORE MONEY!!!! GIVE US MORE MONEY!!!", so every tax/fee needs a respectable sounding reason to exist.

      There are other examples of this:

      1. If they REALLY wanted to curb speeding, they would make all speeding tickets be for $10,000 and 30 days in jail, and speeding would stop overnight! Speeding fines are calculated to be as high as possible, without actually detering speeding, in order to maximize profits.

      2. Same thing with cigarette tax: Presumably they want to discourage smoking - but if they wanted to do that they could place a huge tax on cigarettes, maybe $50 per pack or something. The trouble with that, is that everyone would quit smoking if they had to pay $50+ a pack. So they make the cigarette tax as high as possible without actually discouraging smoking, to maximize profits.

      If you want the government to actually discourage behavior, the last thing you want the government to do is make a profit from that behavior. That is why all the brothel owners in Nevada are trying to get the state to pass a special extra-high prostitution tax - they know that once the government gets used to having that money, they won't want to give it up and therefore prostitution will always remain legal! The best way to make sure something will last forever is to give the government a cut of the profits!

  10. Uh huh. Except... by penguinstorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) It bills to your credit card
    2) I don't have a credit card
    3) I don't like The Man tracking my activities, right down to where and when I park

    Just a thought.

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    1. Re:Uh huh. Except... by 5KVGhost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I don't like The Man tracking my activities, right down to where and when I park"

      You're concerned about The Man knowing where you park your registered motor vehicle, license plate clearly visible as required by law, on a public street? As you enter and exit your vehicle in public view. Yep, that's some highly sensitive and privileged information right there.

    2. Re:Uh huh. Except... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As with all these systems (street cams, ez-pass, etc) the value to 'The Man' comes in after the fact.

      "Who was parked at 3rd & Main last tuesday at 2PM?"
      If you willingly give them the data for them to store, it will be easy to find out.

  11. Fffft, old news by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We in the old world have been having this system for about 2 years now.

    Without convenience fee.

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  12. Estonia started doing this three years ago... by Osrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    http://www.usj.com.my/usjXpress/details.php3?table =usjXpress&ID=256

    I travel there on business from time to time, folks that I work with there have been doing something like this using SMS for a while now.

    It is good to see the US catching up.

  13. Been around a while by KavyBoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wellington, NZ implemented this a while back. I knew one of the IT guys involved. They were happy to get paid for doing the work, but they were sure it wouldn't be a success. After all, who would pay extra for this? Much to his surprise, it's been very successful.

  14. We have that in England :) by jjeffrey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Verrus operate a similar system at the council car parks in York, England. It's great - finding the change was always a pain!

    They get the number of your cell phone from caller ID and store your vehicle registration plate and credit card details against it the first time you call. The next time you call you just tell it how many hours you want and enter the 4 digit code for the car park you are using. For an extra 10p you can get a reminder SMS. You are also free to call again and extend the parking.

    If you don't have your cell phone with you then you can use any phone, and just tap in your cell number and the PIN number you set the first time you called. You also use that PIN if you want to change credit card or vehicle registration numbers.

    The wardens have machines that have details of the electronically issued tickets on them, so they don't clamp you :)

  15. Re:Old News by Jazz-Masta · · Score: 2, Insightful


    I do believe this will completely change the parking scene in Vancouver. Anyone who has been downtown and tried to park there knows it is impossible. This means that now, for sure, anyone who gets there first will be there all day. Previously spaces opened up due to people running out of change and leaving or people getting towed. This would also be a good method of topping up at the various Impark parking lots in Calgary and Edmonton. I almost always underestimate the time I need, I think everyone does.

    Of course, Impark won't do this since it makes more money giving tickets than selling parking space. They are vultures! The ticket is already written up by the time you have 1-minute left, just in case.

    The article explains this is the first major city in North America to do this. Not to mention this is in CANADA. I think you have Canada confused with the United States with your comment.

  16. So long, and thanks for the free parking... by dwandy · · Score: 2, Interesting

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  17. It's about the money by ezratrumpet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Man probably doesn't care about temporary parking vs. garage parking. If anything, the Man will encourage more use of temporary (aka parking meter) parking. Meters, when in use, make more money than parking garages. If the Man can keep the metered spaces full, it means more money for governmental projects.

  18. Assistance Required by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...feed their parking meters with their cell phone
    I'd like to try this, but I can't seem to fit my phone into the coin slot. Maybe if I bought a Razr?
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  19. Re:instead of cellphone... by Chirs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We've got something similar in some areas of Saskatoon, Canada. It's more like a preloaded parking card though.

    You swipe your card, meter deducts money from the card equal to the cost of the max amount of time you can park there. When you come back, you swipe again and the meter refunds the unused amount.

  20. security issues? by g1gg13r · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What if I spoof my caller ID, which is relatively easy to do? Will I be able to charge all my parking fees to my coworker's/neighbor's/friend's/stranger's phone bill? Unless they have cameras at each parking meter recording the license plate numbers of cars parked there, how will they track me down before the victim receives their cell phone bill for the month?

    Also, can I do a "chargeback"? What if I charge up my phone bill with parking fees, and dispute the charges at the end of the month?

  21. TXT-a-Park by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 2, Informative

    We have had TXT-a-Park for a while here in NZ - http://www.vodafone.co.nz/promos/txt-a-park/txt_a_ park.jsp?item=txt_a_park

    They charge a 50c transaction fee which is pretty steep, especially when you are only paying $3.50 for the actual parking. Having the system txt you when your parking is almost up and email receipts is a great idea which I wish they would implement here.

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  22. Croatia by kost · · Score: 2, Informative

    Croatia have that "feature" for years! In almost all towns in Croatia you can pay your parking with cell phone.

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  23. Here in Norway... by A-Rex · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...many places you can swipe your credit card when you leave your car, and swipe it again when you come back. Very convenient. Alternatively, you can pay with coins.