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YouTube Killer (Media Portal w/ Revenue Sharing)

MattPF writes "eefoof.com is a user-submitted content site similar to YouTube/Google Video which allows users to submit Videos, Images, Flash and Audio while receiving a share of the site's ad revenue. For example, if someone uploads a really popular video that accounts for a lot of traffic in a given month, the user will receive a good portion of the video ad revenue for the month. Could this be the YouTube killer?"

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  1. Possibly, by laptop006 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But more likely it's a paid ad...

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    1. Re:Possibly, by Aaron+England · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Tag this story slashvertisement.

    2. Re:Possibly, by 70Bang · · Score: 4, Informative



      Possibly? But more likely it's a paid ad...

      Has someone been sniffing the fireworks smoke a little early and a bit too much?

      Hover your mouse over MattPE and see what is displayed:

      http://www.eefoof.com/

      Some bonehead (I won't go back and read who the editor was) that let that message go through without checking an obvious connection). I demand a recount on the editorial elections to see if he really received enough votes. Besides, you'd think MattPE would have an id other than eefoof.com when he submitted his message.

      The problem is he's going to get a Slashdot effect just because people are going to jump the gun instead of walking away from his site entirely.

  2. Web2.1 by linvir · · Score: 5, Funny

    The shameless self-promotion on Slashdot and Digg (and probably elsewhere) kind of grates, but you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. You have to swallow your pride a little when you're starting out, so please give them a break on this. Think of it like this: we're getting a chance to get in early while the contribution:pageview ratio is skewed, and we have an opportunity to perhaps make a little money.

    But then again, it's not exactly the first advert in history to offer me a 'chance to make real money'. Apparently I could be making $2000/hour just by filling out surveys online!

    It is, however, the most Web2.0-compliant site I've ever seen. If it is at all possible to compete with or even oust YouTube, 'eefoof' certainly seems to be the site for the job.

    1. Re:Web2.1 by teslatug · · Score: 2, Funny

      You should have posted that at eellooff, you could have made $5.

    2. Re:Web2.1 by linvir · · Score: 4, Funny

      "eellooff"?? What the hell? You should at least make some effort to get their name right! It's eefoof.

      Anything else just sounds completely retarded!!

    3. Re:Web2.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      eef00f? That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my hexadecimal luggage!

  3. Lulu.tv by samuel4242 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It looks like several are doing this. The NYT has a story about Lulu.tv today. And it mentions revver.com is doing something similar.

    1. Re:Lulu.tv by 88NoSoup4U88 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      mmm, nice, so someone can upload his movies to all these sites and enjoy the revenue of all of 'em: Someone, quick, write me a script for auto-submitting stuff to all those sites! :D

      Would be seriously cool if creative people (no, not the people who cut 1 minute from Family Guy's episodes) could earn themselves a nice buck with their stuff that way (and there is always the opportunity to lead people to your own site, where they would be able to buy the high def version of the movie)

    2. Re:Lulu.tv by NeilTheStupidHead · · Score: 3, Insightful
      no, not the people who cut 1 minute from Family Guy's episodes...

      That parenthetical remark raises a valid point though: What kind of controls are there going to be to ensure that someone isn't making money from another person's copyrighted material? This is less of a concern for popular media which everyone can identify (e.g. a clip from Family Guy) but would be a serious problem for independant content makers who choose to distribute their work over the internet.

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    3. Re:Lulu.tv by vile8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Lulu.tv is actually all creative commons. So copyrighted materials will not get paid. Stealing an episode of family guy will get you a big fat 0 (unless you created it). We do not endorse copyright infringement, but instead wish to replace it with CC licensing for all. Technically we aren't paying for the shows though either, we are paying based on a bunch of factors which mostly include getting lots of people to come participate in the site.

  4. The new killer-killer... by BecomingLumberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we stop using the phrase ______-killer? A product can have weight on its own merit, and some companies to coexist even if there is a clear top dog (google, anyone?).

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  5. Problem by Galston · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is to stop anyone from going to YouTube, searching for the most popular videos of the moment and uploading them to the new site. They would then be getting Ad money for videos that didn't belong to them.

    1. Re:Problem by kaden · · Score: 4, Insightful
      In theory? The actual creators of the videos could sue you for violating their copyright.

      In reality? Most videos will probably not be uploaded by the people who created them/own the rights to them, because suing someone over pennies of ad revenue isn't a realistic solution for the college students who generally are creating these videos.

    2. Re:Problem by LordVader717 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Doesn't get much easier than this.

      You can even have it transcode Google videos to different formats.

  6. SPAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These clowns have been spamming this junk all over the Net today.

    Creating fake accounts, pretending to be people jumping on the bandwagon, etc.

    Die, spammers, die.

    1. Re:SPAM by linvir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is a beautiful kind of irony in it though. Because of their haste to sell themselves, they've overstepped their own capacity and blasted themselves offline through sheer volume of traffic.

      Perhaps if they'd had a little patience, and spread the big traffic spikes out over a few days, they'd actually be able to benefit from them. As it stands now, I just tried to create an account, got a bunch of database errors, and gave up.

      I probably won't be back.

  7. Re:So how come... by xtracto · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...every new site/service has to have a retarded name? eefoof, Okapipi, Dirty Rhino, Blue Hippo, come on!

    Haha, and that is nothing, have you heard about Yahoo!, Google, MicroSoft (what does these guys sell? micro and soft?)

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  8. PHP quality by linvir · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) in /home/webadmin/domains/eefoof.com/public_html/incl udes/setup.php on line 19

    Warning: mysql_select_db(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /home/webadmin/domains/eefoof.com/public_html/incl udes/setup.php on line 20

    Warning: mysql_query(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) in /home/webadmin/domains/eefoof.com/public_html/incl udes/track.php on line 61

    Warning: mysql_query(): A link to the server could not be established in /home/webadmin/domains/eefoof.com/public_html/incl udes/track.php on line 61
    Logo register login

    Holy shit! Have these people ever heard of is_resource()?
    if(!is_resource($database_connection)) {
    show_error_message();
    dont_try_to_make_any_mor e_database_calls();
    }
    And what about prepending mysql_connect with a @ to hide the error messages from naughty boys who you don't want knowing the location of your web dir and your mysql socket?
    $database_connection = @mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass);
    It's not often that I'm out-noobed in PHP, but these guys have managed it.
    1. Re:PHP quality by metarox · · Score: 5, Informative

      The usage of @ degrades performance drastically, you're better off shutting the errors off with ini_set( 'display_errors', 0 ); and having everything go to the log file. OTOH a minimal amount of error checking wouldn't be bad either so you can customize the error messages triggered.

  9. Re:Good move by tashanna · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Either way, good to see that besides free hosting (don't underestimate that), people also are getting a share in revenue: I think this might lead to more creative/fun little movies being made.

    As soon as you add money, the signal-to-noise gets much, much worse. The "OMG, $$$$!!!" crowd will be uploading any piece of junk they can find in the hopes that it'll stick and they get a few pennies for the efforts. There's nothing like the Colbert Report posted 100 times to ruin it. It might've been better if Google had done it; at least the search might've had a chance of finding something novel. I won't be all sour grapes. It may work out after all if they have a good search / ranking system

    -Tash
  10. Not yet proven by oahazmatt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love these headlines. "DS Killer", "Microsoft iPod Killer". Whether a bias opinion or bad judgement by the submitter, few companies would like to have their product labeled as the "other brand killer", for the reasons that 1) it still keeps the other product in the potential-customer's mind and 2) it does give the company developing said 'killer' a rather aggressive and nasty appearance that may backfire. "Why do you want to kill my iPod, mister? I love my iPod!"

    Also, look for the revenue sharing to occassionally go towards legal fees, as I'm sure there will be more than one-piece of copyrighted material available for view. Someone will upload clips of Korgoth of Barbaria that someone missed, or something along those lines, and then either complain about not getting paid for the traffic, or having to fight off Time Warner lawyers.

    And reverting back to my original point, can we please stop diagnosing something as something else's 'killer'? The market is very finicky, and often things that take off are things no one thought would. I laughed at the iPod when it first came out, now I own one. The PSP was supposed to outsell the DS by a phenomenal margin, and that's not hapening. And most of all, it has less of a chance of happening if someone starts showing off their design and yelling "but it's better and has go-faster stripes!".

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  11. The Fundamental Problem... by ThomasBHardy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fundamental problem with this business model is that even on services where there's no revenue attached, you get 20 people uploading the same videos. When you attach money to it, you can guarantee that any popular post gets re-posted 25,000 times by others hoping to make a buck. Then what happens when someone posts up entertainment skits produced by others? Now you are making revenue from someone else's works. This just seems to have a giant "TOO COMPLICATED TO SURVIVE" stamped on it's forehead.

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  12. Re:So how come... by vadim_t · · Score: 2, Funny

    MicroSoft (what does these guys sell? micro and soft?)

    Toilet paper, of course.

  13. slashdotted by Britz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they can't survive a slashdotting of their front page, how are they going stream large media files to an audience big enough that the revenue share we would get would is an amount greater than a couple cents?

  14. No! by Gleng · · Score: 3, Funny

    You can't kill YouTube. Everyone knows that the internet won't work without tubes!

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  15. Copyright owners will nuke it from orbit by iainl · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can practically count on one hand the times I find a link to a YouTube video where the actual copyright owner has uploaded it, rather than it being a snippet of TV show, a film clip or a whole music video.

    Right now, it's a pain for the owners to constantly watch YouTube and remove them, particularly when it's usually fans of the people involved uploading them in barely-watchable low quality, just for fun.

    If people are starting to make actual money from this, however, the studios are going to smack it with an absolutele vengeance, just on principle, surely?

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  16. Looks like a good deal, or does it? by Unique2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    eefoof image hits for the month: 10,000
    FUNNY.JPG hits for the month: 100
    eefoof image ad revenue: $1,000
    FUNNY.JPG revenue earned: $10.00
    eefoof's expenses $5.00
    FUNNY.JPG earned you: $5.00


    Looks like opportunity for some Hollywood accounting

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  17. What, already? by samael · · Score: 4, Interesting

    YouTube's been around for just over a year and already we're looking for its killer? Couldn't we just want YouTube to be improved a bit rather than migrating en masse from site to site every 15 minutes?

    Or maybe I'm just getting old.

  18. Re:So how come... by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2, Informative

    Okay, Yahoo! doesn't really mean anything, but Google is a search engine that lets you search millions and millions of pages, so naming after a big number isn't bad. And Microsoft is a company that sells software for microcomputers. Sure, we don't really call them microcomputers, but we did when MS started up.

  19. eefoof.com killer by mtenhagen · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet its more likely slashdot is a eefoof.com killer.

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  20. killr: The new killer killer. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, I have an idea for a new Web 2.0 site: killr.us! It's a glorified portal site linking to other Web 2.0 sites who are trying to kill each other. Users get to vote on which site is the most popular and which one is the most likely to kill someone.

    Look at my Web 2.0/Dotcom-compliant features:
    Web 2.0
    - Rounded corners!
    - Completely AJAX-based navigation!
    - The navigation uses a cloud of words in varying font sizes! Exclusively! Maybe we'll even use varying colors!!
    - The site uses XHTML 1.1, even though no browser can differentiate it from HTML 4.01 due to the IE not understanding application/xhtml+xml!
    - CSS feeds all over the place!
    - Misspelled domain name! (In fact, I should register dethmatch.com as well)
    - Stupid, irrelevant tagline! ("Where the killr is the killer killer.")
    - Web 2.0 buttons!
    - Digg links on every page!
    - Links to MySpace, YouTube, Flickr and delicio.us on every page!
    - In fact, the links are loaded into an IFrame using AJAX!!
    Dotcom
    - Inane business model guarantees VC attention!
    - At least one domain name ends in .com!
    - This has "stupid" written all over it! It has to be good!

    Come on, dump ten million dollars into my venture! Please!

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  21. Re:Their payment structure is RIAA-like by escay · · Score: 2, Informative

    eh?! you are getting 1% (or half of it, subtracting expenses) because that is all your contribution to their revenue. you are not helping them make the rest of 99% so why should they pay you any cut of that?! The rest of the (10000-100)=9900 hits eefoof receives are from FUNNY.JPGs from other people and eefoof has to pay them 50% as well - so nett, eefoof pays 50% of their ad-revenue from your submission to you. it's a fair deal according to their arithmetic.

  22. Awesome Idea! by sinack69 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Finally!! Now we can all make money on our porno videos!

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  23. Slashdotted by twistah · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think we've found the eefoof killer.

  24. Uhmm... by darkrowan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Any time you have the statment: Is this/This is a [insert hot popular item] killer, it isn't.

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  25. Not dead yet... by clambake · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm curious why people don't think this "kill feature" would take all of *one weekend* for YouTube or GoFish or any of the other video sites to copy in two seconds if it were looking like a good idea?

  26. "eefoof" is the sound mafia victims make by bitspotter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm starting a pool on how long it takes before copyright holders sue them for paying unauthorized posters.

    YouTube is bad enough, but there's no money involved to spur posting. If there's one thing a cartel hates worse than people giving away their stuff for free, it's people people giving away their stuff for money.