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Microsoft To Release 'iPod Killer' at Christmas?

ShellFish writes "According to a report from Engadget, Microsoft is poised to finally take on the Apple iPod this holiday season. Tired of uninspiring offerings from its hardware partners, Microsoft is getting into the ring itself. The new media player from Microsoft will feature a bigger screen than the iPod Video, have built-in WiFi for downloading music without a PC, and Microsoft will work with music and TV content providers to build an iTunes Music Store competitor. In what may be the crucial competitive stroke, Microsoft will also allow you to download from its store any song that you've purchased from Apple, unlocking users from iPod's vendor lock-in."

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  1. Not only that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'll be built with the reliability and simplicity you've come to expect from Microsoft.

    1. Re:Not only that... by MarkByers · · Score: 5, Funny
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    2. Re:Not only that... by steveo777 · · Score: 5, Informative
      Well, you've got a few good points there. Except for the vendor lock-in format. What do you think WMA, WMV are? Think MS is going to let you use MP3's right on there? (I read TFA, I didn't see anything about it). And Apple learned from its mistakes, now you can use USB 2.0 or FireWire.

      Proud owner of iPod Nano. But when it's time for replacement, I'll give this product a look-see.

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    3. Re:Not only that... by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Meaning it will allow for easy replacement of the rechargeable battery


      Which will increase the size.

      not require proprietary vendor lock-in formats (ACC)


      AAC isn't a proprietary vendor lock-in format, it's the successor to MP3, as in MP4. It's amazing how many people think AAC is an Apple thing. They've obviously never even looked into the format. AAC is the standard audio format for next-gen movies (HD-DVD and Blu-Ray).

      and use generic cables/interfaces/devices to extend the use of the product? SIGN ME UP!


      Right, people have found no uses for the port at the bottom of the iPod.

      This is another money-sinking venture into locking you into WMA and getting you reliant on Windows tech. The device will be bulky (bigger screen? What, you think Apple won't be introducing new iPods this Christmas either? Probably those huge widescreen touchscreen iPods we've been hearing about for a year) and will only work with Windows and Window Media Player. Yuck.

      As for free downloads of iTunes purchases, does Microsoft think people use iPods because of the iTunes Music Store?
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    4. Re:Not only that... by Traiklin · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Have you ever owned one? I've owned four and between click wheels that fail, batteries that drop down to 30mins of play time, failed headphone jacks, firmware/softwar bugs etc. - I've never owned bigger pieces of electronic crap.
      so wait, you call the iPod a peice of crap yet you bought 4 of them? Why? after 2 most people would move on to something more reliable.
  2. Ipod killer? Not unless... by SoCalChris · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not unless it has wireless, and more space than a Nomad. Otherwise it's just lame.

  3. Does it literally kill ipods? by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can I point it at someone dancing around like an idiot in public, and it explodes their ipod? I'll take two for dual wield.

  4. also.. by solidtransient · · Score: 5, Funny

    But wait, there's more! Microsoft's iPod killer will also: - double as a powered beard trimmer (small fees apply per trim) - provide a conveneint space to store change (small fees apply per coin) - allow you to pause time and move really fast (small fees apply per pause) - allow you to transport from one place to another (small fees apply per transport) - melt competitor iPods within 30 feet of the device (free of charge!)

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  5. One jailer for another by Mister_IQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    unlocking users from iPod's vendor lock-in

    ... and locking them right back in again in to Micrsoft's vendor lock-in. Brilliant.

    Next, I hope they'll let me "upgrade" all my paperbacks to MSReader encrypted format too!

  6. Re:Woah by davecrusoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Easy: they'll do the same thing they've done with the x-box (subsidize the music at their cost, to win market share)....

  7. Re:Oragami by sdpuppy · · Score: 5, Funny
    "What ever happened to that Oragami thing?"

    It was folded.

  8. Re:Woah by RealSurreal · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA : "They'll actually scan iTunes for purchased tracks and then automatically add those to your account. Microsoft will still have to pay the rights-holders for the songs, but they believe it'll be worth it to acquire converts to their new player."

    Personally I don't see how this will work. I can't imagine Apple being too keen on it.

  9. If I had a dollar for every "iPod killer"... by ptomblin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...I'd have enough money to buy a newer iPod.

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  10. Re:Stop saying iPod Killer! by DaveM753 · · Score: 5, Funny
  11. Re:Woah by Jtheletter · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just wonder how/if MS will get the music cartels to agree to it, other than wholescale bombing of their headquarters' into submission by the Windows Air Force.

    "Why those are some real nice computers you got there at the RIAA, running some fancy Windows OS too. Sure would be a shame if WGA suddenly listed them all as pirated...."

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  12. fools by Tom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing on that list is what iPod owners care about, so this'll be another money bleeding mistake, not an "iPod killer" (besides, didn't we already have an iPod killer this week? I thought they're scheduled every two weeks).

    The iPod is a) simple, b) reliable, c) user-friendly, d) cool, e) well designed and f) ties in well with iTunes. That's what sells it, not bigger screens or WiFi. Nobody who owns an iPod wants to fiddle around for 5 minutes to get the WiFi to work.

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  13. Re:Woah by sdpuppy · · Score: 5, Informative
    Possibly:

    "...But it gets better. To attract current iPod users Microsoft is going to let you download for free any songs you've already bought from the iTunes Music Store. They'll actually scan iTunes for purchased tracks and then automatically add those to your account....[MS has to pay rights-holders...they'll lose money to win converts] "

    From: http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/06/microsoft-plann ing-wifi-enabled-portable-media-player-working-o/

  14. Survey of High Schoolers: iPod not built to last by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 5, Informative

    "It'll be built with the reliability and simplicity you've come to expect from Microsoft."

    If you want something that's built to last, get an iPod. ;)


    Business Students at a local university surveyed a bunch of local high schools. They found that Apple scored low on reliability. Apple also scored low on features, the kids really thought the lack of AM/FM was a negative(*). However, iPod was the most common player. Apple did win on ease of use. Many iPod owners admitted they traded functionality/reliability for "status symbol"/fashion. The kids were fairly well informed since there was a lot of comparing and contrasting of the various players they had.

    (*) I expect Apple has similar research of their own and it probably inspired the Radio Remote. I'd wager future models will have it built in.