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Apple Ends Anti-Blogger Legal Effort
An anonymous reader writes "Apple has decided not to appeal the decision against it in it in its case against the product-information leaking bloggers. News.com discusses the ramifications of this decision, which may make future online journalists bolder in their actions." From the article: "Court documents show the company's investigators interviewed 29 employees who had access to a key confidential document — but Apple did not examine them under oath or examine their computers. That's one reason, the appeals court said, to grant the online journalists the protective order they requested. 'Apple has failed to establish that it adequately pursued other possible means to identify the source of the information in question,' the judges said."
Apple didn't want to go after its internal people because it didn't want to piss them off. It wanted to go after the blogger because Apple likes to "leak" tidbits and then turn off the spigot when if feels its "leaked" test message has hit the test market. However, the blogger in this case wouldn't shut the hell up when Apple asked him too so more people got the message from a near-official source than Apple wanted. Rather than lead with a carrot ("STFU or you get no more information") Apple tried to lead with stick.
Cool, what else does it run beside an operating system? The average user cares about applications and how easy they are to use, not what OS they run on or who built their computer.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
Apple had internal investigations they could perform to at least try to find the information they wanted before filing a suit. The court correctly (in my opinion) ruled that Apple needs to pursue those avenues before granting their request.
I reserve the right to think for myself. Others' opinions are optional. Puppy on lap = typos...not illiteracy.
Any lawyers out here? Will this decision set a precedent for future cases like this, or is it only applicable to this specific case?
The original headline is correct. Apple ceased it's appeal strategy in the case by their own volition. The previous Slashdot article that referenced the original court case decision would have had the headline Apple Loses Anti-Blogger Effort.
Apple already lost, and was down the same path when their lawyers realized there was no way to turn the appeal. All your post came off as is a whiny anti-Apple poster looking for ways to taunt the same fanboys you mention.
OS X is *nix.
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"Apple has decided not to appeal the decision against it in it in its case against the product-information leaking bloggers. News.com discusses the ramifications of this decision, which may make future online journalists bolder in their actions."
i'm lost...
Well, let's see, just about every application I need(admittedly some need WINE) except iTunes(fucking DRM).
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The new yMac quad core Intel pod connect system with Jaguar will be released next week with integrated XEN virtual machine that can run both OSX and Vista in parallel.
OK, so let's puts this news to use. I heard Apple's new Mac Pro will be a Octo-Woodcrest Mac at 3.5 Ghz a piece - Intel has stated they can only go up to 3.0 ghz but I think Apple has a secret deal with Intel under the table. They will start out at a base of $700 with 512 MB RAM, an unannounced ATI X3200, and dual 500 GB IBM Hitatchi laptop drives. The LCD's will be built into the side of the machine, and will be 30". I have confirmed this report with my best friend, Andy. {;o)
sweet, what color earbuds?
No, no. OS X is Apple, and Apple is iPods, which only cool people have. *nix is for people who look like this. So OS X can't be *nix.
It just can't.
As my mom always said "You don't get credit for doing the right thing - you are SUPPOSED to do the right thing."
"But this one goes to 11!"
There is nothing interesting going on at my blog
When Woz ran the company.....did someone mistake their dad's copy of Pirates of Silicon Valley for Coeds Gone Wild and pick up a name?
Tell me when Woz ran the company, as in made the business the decisions....ever...
Job's is a business man and while he has a penchant for design and tech he's always been a business man first.
-or so you'd think
Apple calls the color: Misty Ice Pop
I think that means it's red
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Chris Rock is your mom?!
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Dude... let's make a podcast out of this! That'd be mad stoooopid!
Yes, but shhhhhh - he's a little embarrassed about it...
"But this one goes to 11!"
I sincerely thought the headline read, "Apple Ends Anti-Legal Blogger Effort."
thanks, I'm here all week
On topic, though... which is worse?:
1) The release of leaked information (before the time suits the business interests), or
2) The negative PR of having a large company go after a blogger, or
3) The negative (I guess some might argue, positive?) net effects of lawsuits - lawsuits that are used to attempt to control business?
It is important for businesses to protect themselves, yes... but I think battles must be chosen very carefully.
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I believe you are in the wrong message board. The grammar discussion board is here - http://www.grammarmudge.cityslide.com/grammardiscu ssion.html
Or according to your post, since "you" is not plural, I believe you is in the wrong message board. Oh I also wanted to ask, is it proper to use "is" or "are" when talking about fish?
PS - the "one or two other guys" are (or were seeing as they are dead) - John Entwistle and Keith "the Loon" Moon. (Kenny Jones also played drums after Moon's death.)
"But this one goes to 11!"
no more juicy info from "As Seen on TV"? Oh wait...
I think what people are forgetting here is when Apple started this drastic course against the rumor sites: just weeks before the announcement they would be switching to Intel processors.
In hindsight, it's clear to me that they wanted to send a strong signal to all potential leaks that they would be found out--"just look at what happened to the people who were talking about some random Firewire audio interface"--and for the most part, they've succeeded. Remember that Apple must have been in serious negotiations and preparations with Intel for at least half a year, if not longer, and keeping this secret from both Motorola and IBM was most certainly really important to the entire process.
This seems to be a transatlantic discrepancy.
In North America, a collective noun is treated as a singular noun. Apple is one company, therefore Apple is ending its court action.
In England, collective nouns* are treated as representing their plural contents. The company (singular) is made up of many people, therefore Apple are ending their court action.
The British version sounds wrong to me on pure logic (a noun is a noun, regardless of what it represents), but that's tradition, just like the extra 'u' in colour, honour, etc., and the whole extra syllable in 'aluminiumiumum'--actually, I think I may have too many 'ums' in there. I don't know what the formal rules say, but every well-educated Brit I've talked to has used the language in this way.
* Is this only the case when a collective noun represents a gourp of people, or do non-human collective nouns also behave this way?
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"Spilled The Beans"
Origin:
"When votes were taken in Greece, white beans indicated positive votes and black beans negative. Votes had to be unanimous, so if the collector 'spilled the beans' before the vote was complete and a black bean was seen, the vote was halted".
It's very likely Apple knew/knows who spilled the beans - Jobs isn't stupid. So did Jobs/Apple then set out to find out the truth or was it all about to intimidating jounalists (you know - people who write stuff for public consumption).
Well .... you would have to believe that Jobs/Apple didn't know what a journalist is - doesn't understand where and how journalists work. Humbug! Apple not only sends out media releases to hundreds (thousands?) of journalists on a monthly (weekly?) basis - it likely leaks info to the chosen few "biggy" journalists. Is Payolla involved... well ... only to be a fly on the wall.
If it looks like a SLAP, if it smells like a SLAP, if it sounds like a SLAP, if it walks like a SLAP, well then.....
As big a control freak as Steve Jobs is, he would have continued to pursue the matter despite it being a first amendment issue. But I bet Apple lawyers told him it was a lost cause. Just goes to show you that Apple can be just as evil as Microsoft.
That brought to mind a new band name, "itin"XS ...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I deliberately misspelled that. Also "grammatical". You fell for my trap.
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It's a little more complex than that, but you're largely right. In British english, it depends whether we're referring to a collective noun as a group, or as individuals. If it's referring to the entire group in concert, then we use 'is', if we're referring to them as individuals who are grouped together, we use 'are'. This is rather subtle though, so we tend to use 'are' most often.
;)
In this case, you could use either 'is' or 'are' to refer to Apple, but the correct usage technically is 'is', i.e. Apple is is ending its court action - because we're referring to the company as a whole; though I suppose if you were referring just to the part of Apple (i.e. the legal dept) that decided to drop the case, you'd say Apple are dropping the case.
Apple is a big company. Apple's lawyers are not very nice sometimes. Apple are about to fire their useless lawyers.
The team is on the pitch. The team are celebrating hugely after that goal.
We use the same method for non-human or even abstract collective nouns, though we almost invariably use 'are' in that situation.
Fish are often found swimming in the sea.
The herd are running away.
It's very odd, I can't imagine saying 'fish is often found...' - makes me sound like an east Londoner!
Oh, and aluminium just has that 1 extra i - it's not that tricky. Aloomeeneeum. You Americans are hopeless sometimes
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Argh! too confusing!
In the first case, 'fish' is actually a straight plural, not a collective noun. In the second case, it sounds like you're talking about fish as in food... which can be found in east London?
Especially when we're Canadian. :P So I do keep the extra 'u' in colour, but not the extra syllable in aluminum...ium. Umm... something like that.
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(first you tell Apple what to do, then everyone else what Apple might do :)
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Oh really? When did OSX get Unix98 certification?
Oh, it didn't? OSX isn't even POSIX compliant? Color me suprised.