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Gold Mining Bacteria
Anonymous 49'er writes "Nature is reporting that bacteria found in Australian gold mines are capable of extruding tiny invisible 'secondary grains' from soil and alluvial systems. From the article: "Potential applications -- from sensing the bacteria as a way to look for gold mines, to using them to help make industrially useful particles of gold -- may be some way off. But Southam is keen to exploit the bacteria's natural trick. 'I want to make a gold nugget one day,' he says. 'Gold nuggets grow in nature, so why shouldn't I be able to make one?'"
Scanning Slashdot's front page, two words caught my eyes: bacteria and nuggets.
Judging by the number of responses so far I guess that asking about gold excreting bacteria is like asking about chocolate covered hubcaps. (that's a Larry Niven reference for those of you who are confused)
Philosophy.
From TFA: "from sensing the bacteria as a way to look for gold mines"
/ba-da ba-doom!/
Surely we know where the gold mines are already - I mean, they tend to be biiiig things, or at least big holes in the ground. I wouldn't have though that looking for bacteria would make then any easier to spot.
Shouldn't the bacteria be used for finding gold _deposits_ instead?
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There's no obvious mechanism by which gold should spontaneously form into nuggets in the wild; I don't really believe that gold particles in the soil magically find their way together by some mystical process of attraction.
Is it not more likely that these bacteria have been excreting gold as a matter of habit for hundreds of millions of years, and that gold nuggets are in fact the toilet pits of huge bacterial colonies from ages past? Perhaps the bacteria feed off sulphur or some other element that's mixed with the gold...
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1. Infect humans with gold mining bacteria.
2. Sneak rocks into their food.
3. ????
4. Profit!
But it looked like a pick to me!
It wasn't a pick! It was a scratch!
Why would we want to look for gold mines??? If its a mine we already know where it is.
Unless there are secret gold mines run by the bacteria...
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There is a large gold mine near where I live that uses bacteria to extract gold from the ore that is dug out of the mine. I'm not sure of the specifics, I'd have to ask my brother (he works at the mine), but basically, you feed the bacteria, and in return, they purify the ore. Gotta be better than chemical means such as arsenic and mercury.
An old article from 2002... Bacteria Point The Way To Gold Deposits http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/05/02052 3075914.htm/
Can bacteria help find gold? A pilot survey of 11 soil profiles across gold mining regions in the Peoples Republic of China indicates that elevated spore counts of Bacillus cereus, a common soil bacterium, were detected in areas adjacent to underlying gold deposits.....
I already make my own gold nuggets at home and sometimes, if i have too, outside. ;)
It's gross
There's no way the Chinese gold farmers will be able to compete with these bacteria!
No, no. The question is -- what do you say to a chocolate-covered manhole cover?
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The short story of that title was very important in my life, because it quoted a very funny paragraph -- the Agnostic's Prayer -- from Roger Zelazny, who became one of my absolutely favorite writers (I am still angry at him for smoking and dying of lung cancer so prematurely).
Actually, I've been thinking of the story for its own sake a bit recently too, just because I argue with so many idiot creationists these days
In other SF trivia, the questioner character in that story is obviously based on a real-life friend of his. The same guy was also used as a model for a character in the "Pink elephants invade Kansas" book whose title I'm obviously forgetting for a moment. Not as important as the diabetic guy from JPL, but a recurring Niven character model even so.
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From the insides of our intestines to animal carcasses to sewage plants to toxic waste sites, bacteria are crucial to cleaning things up. Surely this is yet another area where biotechnology will be hugely important in the 21st Century and beyond. In fact, if you're one of the IMO excessively laissez-faire "Oh, go ahead and pollute; technology will fix the problem later" types, you almost have to be betting on microorganisms as the solution. Almost everything else can be easily ruled out.
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I can find gold in my own backyard. As I'm sure you're all familiar with, there's around 3 feet of topsoil (aka dirt) at most sea-level places. Dig past the first 1m, and you'll find another meter of tan colored clay. This is similar to pottery clay, and can be baked in the sun for a few days, or in an oven for a few hours, to form hard clay. You'll need to add some glaze, of course. Under the tan clay is a gray clay, and under the gray clay is a red clay. (That's how far I've gotten so far...) As for the gold, altuogh layers 1 and 2 are pure, layers 3 and 4 are rocky, and I've found a variety of elements, including little gold nuggets that are worth a ton of money! (Assuming I can find a buyer and obtain a sales permit, of course) I'm hoping there's a gold layer that's 3 feet thick of a nice, soft gold, but I'm not sure how deep I'll have to dig for that. I've already got a water pump on the hole to pump out the water that flows in, although at this time of the year the water doesn't start until ~6 ft deep, in the winter it's almost at ground level.
On a side note, sometimes the dirt mixes with the clay. Is there any way to seperate dirt from clay? Also, the red clay appears to harden into a brick-like substance when dried for a pretty long time in the sun or oven...and I've also found a clay that was black and white, and hardened into a little piece of granite in ~ 6 months next to the computer.
Is this bacteria able to seperate the clay from the dirt? Also, I'm finding tons of shiny, golden metals mixed into the gray and red clays, and other elements also, is there a way to seperate these from the surrounding elements?
I was going to write a comment here about how such an incredibly useful bacteria can't possibly have evolved by itself, and must therefore be a dead giveaway that God exists, thus denying the need for faith (without which He is nothing), and so causing Him to vanish in a puff of logic.
But i'm too tired, so just pretend I wrote it and mod me funny appropriately.
Surely the smallest gold-digger in the world must be Lil' Kim?
Could this finally be the answer to Haber's problem of how to profitably extract gold from seawater. If so, I doubt anyone will let it happen for anywhere near the true cost of extraction (probably around a few dollars a troy ounce, once up & running). Which means a lot of biotech companies are going to be very very rich.
Maybe I should patent the method of using a bioengineered bacterium to extract gold particles from seawater. Then I'd be richer than the biotech companies. Me thinks someone else got in that pie a fair while back though.....
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If you're interested in this, I'd suggest reading Thomas Gold's, "The Deep Hot Biosphere." Good read.
back in late 70's/early 80's, I got my first degree in Microbio. so I paid attention to this. Back then, this was being explored (as well as doing it for leeching of other metals esp. copper, uranium, etc). The idea was to lower the energy needs, lower the environmental impact, and finally to be able to selectively go through garbage dumps and old leech fields. It actually makes great sense.
What bothers me about this is that we gave it up as oil prices were pushed down. We should have pushed it forward then.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
I for one welcome our new gold-crapping microbe overlords.
...how this can be. Gold Mining is strictly prohibited by Blizzard's EULA.
It would be wonderful if we could find bacteria that removed radioactive isotopes from nuclear waste.
But oh, the mutations. I imagine that would be a deal-killer.
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Mineral deposits are basically geochemical anomalies where some substances is concentrated millions or billions of times normal background level. Bacteria have been implicated in uranium, lead, zince, copper, petroleum and perhaps others.
A surprise has been the every deep drilling into the earth, up to eight miles deep, has found teeming bacteria. These may have been when these rocks were at the surface, and/or bateria have gone deeper into the earth over billions of years.