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The 64% Violent Pacman

DreamWinkle writes "During the recent Senate hearings on video game violence, one expert claimed that the ESRB underrated violent games. They went on to say that Pacman was 64% violent. To some, this means you shouldn't play Pacman; to others, it highlights what's wrong with Senate hearings. Whether a game is violent or not depends on how you classify violence, and the ESRB has the job of doing just that. They're not regulated by the government, they let the game makers recommend their own ratings, and don't play every game they rate. Is the ESRB to be trusted?"

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  1. 42 by davevt5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Saying Packman is "64% violet" is like saying the meaning of life is "42".

    1. Re:42 by frostoftheblack · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I can't define violence, but I can tell when it has reached 64%"
      --Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart

      Oh wait, that was about pornography.

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    2. Re:42 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Wait a minute!

      64 must be the imperial value.

      Metric = 17.7 recurring. Much more likely.

    3. Re:42 by eonlabs · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, that's in comparison to pong, which has a 12% violent rating, and robotron, which is 93% violent. Nothing like 16 pixel square robots mutilating the last people on earth.

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  2. I see you by kyouteki · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll say Pac-Man's violent. Have you ever seen what he does to those poor ghosts? Eats 'em and leaves nothing but the eyes. Gruesome stuff, man.

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    1. Re:I see you by rjhubs · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pac-Man is not violent. If anything, the game promotes drug usage. Popping pills in dark rooms with techno music? Come on now.

    2. Re:I see you by creepynut · · Score: 5, Funny

      If Pac Man "music" sounds like techno, you're either not playing the original arcade version, or you've already popped too many pills :)

  3. Waka by Sweeman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course it's violent. Power pellets have feelings too!

    1. Re:Waka by kalirion · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those aren't power pellets, they're frozen embryos!

    2. Re:Waka by BigCheese · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mmmmmm, frozen embryos. They're like a baby meat snow cone!

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  4. This Just In... by nsmike · · Score: 5, Funny

    "...US Government declares eating violent."

  5. int or long? by Doches · · Score: 4, Funny

    If they're using int for that number, I suspect that games like GTA come in with a rather nice ranking, somewhere around -17%...

    1. Re:int or long? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe we can overflow this int to cause a buffer overrun later on down the line ... inject some (new) arbitrary senators

  6. So what happened...? by steveo777 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happened to the other 44%? Is that just the start and hi-score screens?

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    1. Re:So what happened...? by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Funny

      34%... That tens column is frustrating though, I'll give you that much

    2. Re:So what happened...? by creepynut · · Score: 5, Funny

      And apparently you only learned 98% Math in school :)

      (34% + 64%)

    3. Re:So what happened...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pacman is a GREAT game!! It gives 108%!

    4. Re:So what happened...? by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Funny

      35.99999468.

      I really must upgrade my old Pentium 60.

    5. Re:So what happened...? by knewter · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sure others have mentioned this already (didn't read child comments to your post), but can I just say that your mathematical open-mindedness is laudable? Thank God we've gotten past the point in human history where people think in terms of 'right answers' and 'wrong answers.' If you want 64 + 44 = 100, hell, who am I to make fun of you? LONG LIVE RELATIVISM!

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    6. Re:So what happened...? by yourOneManArmy · · Score: 4, Funny

      34%... That tens column is frustrating though, I'll give you that much So is the one's column it seems. It's okay, Pacman would have appreciated the boost to 66% anyways; he's always looking for more violence -- power pellets and ghosts don't always supply enough for the enraged yellow demon.

    7. Re:So what happened...? by silvaran · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey if you, me and the grandparent poster get together, maybe the four of us can get a discount on math lessons.

    8. Re:So what happened...? by doxology · · Score: 2, Funny

      he was using base 108, n00b. =P

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  7. Re:64%? by jd · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's two to the power of the number of ghosts the Senator snagged before losing his last life.

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  8. Let's rank sports, too... by Richard+Steiner · · Score: 5, Funny

    Baseball -- People whack the heck out of an innocent little ball with a large wooden club.
    Football -- People kick the heck out of an innocent ball.
    American Football -- Two teams blitz, bomb, and violently tackle each other.
    Hockey -- Nuff said.
    Basketball -- People bounce an innocent ball repeatedly against a hard floor.
    Pong Pong -- People whack a very small ball back and forth.
    Golf -- People whack a very small ball, often wounding it and/or sending it into water/sand.

    They all sound unacceptable violent to me...

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    1. Re:Let's rank sports, too... by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Funny

      But none of those sports have ghosts! Why can't someone think of the ghosts? You don't want innocent ghosts being eaten, do you? Then who will be left to scare the children?

    2. Re:Let's rank sports, too... by gorbachev · · Score: 4, Funny

      "They all sound unacceptable violent to me..."

      Naah, the violence ranks from 40% to 95%. The acceptable level of violence, as everyone knows, in the US is 101%.

      The acceptable level of nipples, on the other hand, is 0%.

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  9. Show Me! by Malevolyn · · Score: 2, Funny

    I really want to know the procedure used to put a number to Pacman's "violence." Mario is probably up in the 80% region.

    He jumps on creatures to kill them.
    Kicks most likely endangered turtles
    Throws fire at living creatures
    In Mario 64, he punches and kicks poor, innocent animals and bombs
    - Incites random attacks on royalty.
    - Kill moles and attempts to block their homes.
    - Chases and attacks monkies.

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  10. 64% violet? by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, I thought he was 100% yellow.

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    1. Re:64% violet? by MobileC · · Score: 2, Funny

      A PacMan implementation in Tetris?

      Wow.

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    2. Re:64% violet? by Hillgiant · · Score: 2, Funny

      It varies between 100% and 75% depending on how far open his mouth is.

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  11. Remaing 36% percent... by Valdrax · · Score: 5, Funny

    The remaining 36% percent has been determined to consist of:
    15.08% squeely beeps
    18.00% necrophagy
    27.71% drugs
    24.02% gender ambiguity
    10.62% spin-offs
      4.08% blue period
      0.57% unknown... scratch that... tar

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  12. Re:Uncessary by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Funny
    Only one group of people is responsible for that: the children's caretakers

    You mean, sort of like a..... big brother?
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  13. Re:64%? by Tsiangkun · · Score: 5, Funny

    basically the game consists of pac
    slaughtering ghosts, dots, and bigger dots.
    Ghosts are also hunting pac when he isn't
    hunting them.

    30% of the screen isn't available to the characters
    because of the way the maze is designed. This leaves 70%
    as the max violence percentage.

    However, in the post 9-11 world, pac killing ghosts has been
    reclassified as doing Gods work, and is seen as promoting
    freedom and democracy while killing evildoers.

    Integrating over time, we can see that only 64% of the game is
    actually violent, and 6% of the time pac is doing gods work.

  14. Poor Duke... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a sad day that the King of American Macho Violence, Duke Nukem, is cast from this throne to be replaced by a pill-popping, ghost-seeing Japanese pizza missing a quarter-slice. Only if Duke Nukem Forever was released would things turn around for our beloved hero.

  15. If video games really influence our behavior... by onlysolution · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Then Pacman is a particuarly horrbile game and I'm quite conent with it being targeted like this. Pacman encourages lots of destructive behavior, such as:

    Running around in a dark room with a blacklight taking pills and mumbling "waka waka"

    Taking a couple of larger, different pills, so powerful that you begin to eat people alive, yet inexplicably spit the eyes back out

    Celebrating the deaths of those around you by listening to electronic music, presumably still under the effects of the pills.

    It's pretty clear that Pacman could lead this entire country, nay the entire world, to extensive drug use, poor taste in music, and cannibalism unless we legislate against it.

    1. Re:If video games really influence our behavior... by hypnagogue · · Score: 4, Funny
      It's pretty clear that Pacman could lead this entire country, nay the entire world, to extensive drug use, poor taste in music, and cannibalism unless we legislate against it.

      They called this dark period in our history "The 80's".
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  16. Grand Theft Auto is rated E - For Everyone by voxel · · Score: 2, Funny

    At least thats how most game stores see it when they make a sale, especially when a 9 year old boy comes up with three twenty dollar bills.

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  17. Re:I've seen... by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny

    That they're about 87% retarded?

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  18. Re:Anyone have more information? by Xibby · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe Pac-Man isn't really harming the ghosts. He's not eating the Ghosts, they live on. He's eating their clothing. The so called ghosts simply return home and don another sheet when Pac-Man catches them.

    Maybe Pac-Man is really just a creature that enjoys the taste of clothing worn by a dark skinned creature. Eating the clothing seems to be enjoyable to Pac-Man, but receiving a whip crack to the ass from the mystical material transports Pac-Man back to his starting position.

    How do we know the Ghosts don't enjoy chasing Pac-Man! They get to smack him on the rear if they catch him, but if he catches them they have to go home naked. It could all be in fun and jest, and us dolts of the human race have misinterpreted the entire ritual!

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  19. Quote by Tsu-na-mi · · Score: 1, Funny

    It has to be said:

    "Video games don't affect kids. I mean if Pac-man affected us as kids,
    we'd all be running around in dark rooms, munching magic pills and
    listenining to repetitive electronic music."

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  20. Re:Anyone have more information? by boingyzain · · Score: 1, Funny

    If Pacman's ghosts were replaced by rolling boulders, it would have nearly no violence. Discuss.

    And if GTA's prostitutes were replaced by rolling boulders...

  21. Re:Anyone have more information? by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you take the binary of the original arcade pac-man and disassemble it, you will find that 64% of the assembly instructions contain the so called "violent bit".

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  22. Re:Anyone have more information? by Main+Gauche · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Ghosts are, by definition, already dead.

    Can you really commit violence against them?"

    If puppets can have sex, then ghosts can be victims. God bless this country.

  23. Re:This is why I don't play Pacman by MadJo · · Score: 5, Funny

    you mean, parents have responsibilities? Surely not!
    It's up to the congress to legislate our childs upbringing.
    It's only through laws that we can teach our children what they need to learn.

  24. Re:64%? by istartedi · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's the square of ate.

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  25. Big win for P3!! by kinglink · · Score: 3, Funny

    We, the People for the Protection of Pellets have struck the first blow. Now our oppressor, who calls himself Pacman will feel the wraith of the government. No longer will our pellets be required to get help from ghosts to stop the evil yellow menace from attacking them. No longer will we have to worry about the "Power Pellet" who have betrayed us. All we ask is freedom for our white brethren!

    DEATH TO THE HUNGRY ONE!

  26. I happen to know a lot about Senate hearings. by SQLz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I happen to know a lot about Senate hearings. They are a series of connected tubes, and when you get 3 or 4 violent video games moving through these tubes, they get clogged up. Just last week, my staff sent me a Senate Hearing, and it took a whole day to get there.

    1. Re:I happen to know a lot about Senate hearings. by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Funny
      Just last week, my staff sent me a Senate Hearing, and it took a whole day to get there.
      You think that's bad?

      I asked for a meeting of the Congressional Oversight Committee and it took an entire Administration to arrive.
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  27. Re:Anyone have more information? by MaverickUW · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lots of people think of the cherries. In fact, 90% of the internet is directly related to people's thinking about cherries, or lack thereof.

  28. Re:Nice attempt at not connecting the dots. by pjp6259 · · Score: 4, Funny

    kick ass! I can't wait to be a responsible parent.

    Wife: Honey do the dishes.
    Me: Are you kidding? I'm only 2/3 of the way through Jumior's christmas parent. WHAT KIND OF A MOTHER ARE YOU?!?!?
    Wife: (sobbing)

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  29. Pac-Man alternates between 25% and 0% violence by SimHacker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pac-Man's mouth is his only weapon, and it alternates between 25% open and 0% open, for an average of 12.5% open-mouthed violence.

    -Don

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  30. Re:Anyone have more information? by BuffaloBandit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Personally,
    I think the real game to watch out for is Whack-a-mole. Do you know that the object of that game is to kill as many moles as possible in a single minute. I've seen death rates in the hundreds-per-minute category. I'm no statistician, but by this kind of formula, I'd have to say that Whack-a-mole is at least 257.2% violent. I've also seen the affect it has on the children who play it. How many time have you returned home after a long day at the office to see your children slaughtering moles in the front yard by the thousands? The ghost eating is bad enough, but what about the poor moles?

    I'd much prefer that they play games in which they kill realistic looking mothers and children at the park half-a-dozen-per-minute than see them perform animatronic-rodent genocide.

  31. Pac-Man is a Cop Killer by Chysn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pac-Man is a metaphor. The Pac-Man, see, he's a thief. He's going around a warehouse stealing things. Things worth ten points each. The ghosts, see, they're the cops. They're trying to catch Pac-Man, and if they catch him three times, he goes to the joint for life, game over, man. So what does Pac-Man do? He kills the cops. The game REWARDS you for killing cops. That's just sick, man. 64% is way off the mark.

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  32. Re:64%? by istartedi · · Score: 4, Funny

    On the way home, I realized I was wrong. It's the square of "dot ate". I can't believe nobody caught me!

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  33. It's a gateway game... by hebcb · · Score: 2, Funny

    64% move on to more violent games like centipede.

  34. Violent?! by Barabbas86 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't you EVER call pacman VIOLENT OR I'LL DEVOUR YOU IN ONE BITE!!! Except the eyes. Those are for later.