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Another Pass at the Personal Jetpack

Engadget is reporting that dreams of a personal jet pack may not be quite as distant as you might think. Skywalker Jets, created by Rick Herron boasts a 90-pound jet pack capable of propelling a 200-pound pilot through the air for about five minutes without the hassle of charred lower extremities. The production model, which he hopes to run past the FAA soon for approval, will only cost you somewhere in the neighborhood of $200,000 — so start saving your pennies.

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  1. FAA? by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

    The production model, which he hopes to run past the FAA soon for approval [...]

          Ah, yes. The good old "If I run fast enough it looks like my feet are off the ground" ploy.

    1. Re:FAA? by awesomo2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

      He sounds very confident that he will get this thing approved by the FAA. I say this might just be a good time to go to law school!

    2. Re:FAA? by lottameez · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Declare it an instrumental war-fighting tool in "the war against terror". Slam dunk baby.

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    3. Re:FAA? by pizza_milkshake · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...jet pack capable of propelling a 200-pound pilot through the air for about five minutes...

      READ: the average slashdotter will need 2.

    4. Re:FAA? by vux984 · · Score: 2, Funny

      READ: the average slashdotter will need 2.

      Where would the average slashdotter ever go that would take 5 whole minutes? 2.5 minutes is more than enough to get the average slashdotter to the bathroom and back, even with a side trip to the kitchen.

    5. Re:FAA? by DurendalMac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm just wondering how the hell you steer the thing. You know that a bunch of idiots wont be able to figure it out and will splatter like a loogie on the side of a building. That's probably the biggest reason the FAA is going to give a big nono to this.

    6. Re:FAA? by soft_guy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Where would the average slashdotter ever go that would take 5 whole minutes?

      Taco Bell?

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    7. Re:FAA? by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 2, Funny
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    8. Re:FAA? by ozmanjusri · · Score: 2, Funny
      Duh, rudder on the helmet.

      Or you can use the Dutch version where the rudder is at the other end.

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    9. Re:FAA? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hey, I'm getting there...

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  2. I can just see it now by AdvancedLoser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    people who forget to check how much fuel they have left while still hundreds of metres in the air plummetting down like bags of wet cement.

    1. Re:I can just see it now by gurudyne · · Score: 5, Funny

      "plummetting down like bags of wet cement."

      No, no. They will plummet down SCREAMING. They will SPLASH like bags of wet cement.

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    2. Re:I can just see it now by Z0mb1eman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What's the difference from divers who forget to check how much O2 they have before they dive?

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    3. Re:I can just see it now by Inquisitus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The divers are only harming themselves.

    4. Re:I can just see it now by eonlabs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Won't the darwin awards just love that.

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    5. Re:I can just see it now by CptNerd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Paraphrasing "WKRP in Cincinnati":

      "As God is my witness, I thought geeks could fly!"

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    6. Re:I can just see it now by scottblascocomposer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, the divers can't land on you.

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    7. Re:I can just see it now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Divers can do a safe ascent without air from more than 60 feet, if needed. If diving with a buddy (generally recommended), you can breathe off the buddy's extra second stage (octopus). Watch a fellow in a jetpack run out of fuel at 60 feet and I think you'll see the difference.

    8. Re:I can just see it now by TFoo · · Score: 5, Informative

      The difference is the margin of error. Basic scuba diving certification teaches you how to free ascend with no air from the deepest dive you'll ever make without a backup air source (~100ft: beyond that and you start doing things like taking a backup "pony bottle" air source). In a true panic situation where you can't swim up with the air you have left, you quick-release your weight belt, start blowing out (yes, blow out!), and your natural boyancy will take you to the surface -- without weight you'll go up pretty fast. Dropping weights is only for true emergencies -- usually you can just swim up since the air in your lungs will expand as you go up, making it surprisingly easy to ascend even from relatively deep dives without additional air.

      Soo, to answer your question:
              forgetting to check your compressed air: lose weight belt, feel stupid
              forgetting to check your jet pack: crash and die.

      Big difference.

    9. Re:I can just see it now by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Divers dive in pairs, and you always have a secondary regulator on your equipment, in case your buddy runs out of air or has an equipment failure.

      I don't think that that kind of redundancy is gonna work for the jetpack...


              Depends on how fat your flying partner is.

    10. Re:I can just see it now by Duhavid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Evolution in Action?

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    11. Re:I can just see it now by timeOday · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't know what scares me more, the fact that you're actually worried about jet pack riders raining from the sky onto your head, or the fact that you were modded to +5.

    12. Re:I can just see it now by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah yes... forcing them gracefully to land.. in the limb chipper...

      AHhhhhhhhhHHHHhhhhhhhh grrrrrriiiidddd....

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    13. Re:I can just see it now by dmatos · · Score: 2, Informative

      Almost all recreational divers practice what is called "no decompression" diving. The time spent at depth is limited (with a fairly healthy safety margin) such that the diver can safely ascend without risk of nitrogen bubbles precipitating out of the blood or body tissues. For extra safety measures, we also throw in a 5 minute stop at 15 feet, for deeper dives (60ft+), but that is not absolutely required. It just makes things safer.

      Also, under the PADI system, someone with Open Water Certification is recommended not to dive any deeper than 60 feet (~20m) for the first year, and no deeper than 100 feet (~30m) when more experienced. I'm not sure where you got the 15m number.

      There is also no reason to ascend any faster than your bubbles from 60 or even 100 feet, even if you only have one lungful of air. 60ft/minute ascent rate means a little over a minute to get to the surface. As explained in previous comments, the air in your lungs expands as you rise, so it will always feel like your lungs are full even as you are letting air escape. Just don't hold your breath, or you risk embolism.

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    14. Re:I can just see it now by Atheose · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When you dive, the deeper you go the greater the pressure pushes on your lungs. If you have a full breath at 10 meters and dump your weights and swim to the surface without exhaling all your air, it will expand as you reach the surface and your lungs will explode. Just one of the 100+ ways you can die that they explain to you when you first get certified.

  3. Insurance? by __aaakhl8499 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    whatever about the cost of purchasing, running and maintaining one of these - I can't imagine any insurance company taking on the risk that the pilot won't do serious damage to property and by-standers.

    The insurance premium will be huge.

    1. Re:Insurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      The insurance premium will be huge.


      Insurance.. you think they're going to insure somebody on one of these things?

      Ha...haha.. hahahahah!

      I'd have a better chance at getting insurance by wielding a Wiley Coyote bat wing with an Acme rocket rammed up my keester!
    2. Re:Insurance? by tomherbst · · Score: 2, Informative

      It will likely be similar to motorcycle insurance -- fairly cheap because the primary
      victim of any accident is the now dead operator.

      Like small airplanes, these will not inflict major damage to most structures. I'd
      agree that it is not a great thing to have fall on your head, but the screams of the
      about to die pilot should be enough warning to get out of the way.

      tom

    3. Re:Insurance? by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The OP is likely confused by the difference between Liability insurance and Comp/Coll insurance. It has been a few years since I was extensively in the inusrance industry, but it was not uncommon for companies to offer very low liability insurance (the kind of insurance you must have) and very high Comp/Coll insurance (the kind of insurance you should have on any vehicle you value). I even saw a few companies where the cost cost of Comp/Coll on a $6000 bike was $14000 a year. This was because they did not really want to do Comp/Coll on motorcycles, but knew that many people would be required to get the comp/coll due to a loan. So, they priced the insurance so that only the stupid would buy it.

  4. Skywalker is a great name for a jetpack by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gee, EveryOne Really Gets Excited Laughing Up Cool Aero-vehicles. Still, We're In Luck. Landing Seems Uncompromisingly Easy.

    1. Re:Skywalker is a great name for a jetpack by BronsCon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yay! Everyone Soars! HowEver, What If Lucas Litigates?

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    2. Re:Skywalker is a great name for a jetpack by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I can't believe nobody has pointed out that it wasn't the Skywalkers who used jet packs; it was Boba Fett.

      Nerds indeed.

  5. I want the full meaning. by spysmily1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "without the hassle of charred lower extremities"

    Instead you just have lightly baked lower extremeties with a touch of fried groins.

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  6. Yellow bar? by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure glad it's got that yellow bar across the front of it for safety, just in case people can't see the freaking FLAMES and SMOKE, can't smell the FLESH, and can't hear the ROAR and the SCREAMING.

  7. That's all well and good ... by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    Skywalker Jets, created by Rick Herron boasts a 90 pound jet pack capable of propelling a 200 pound pilot through the air
     
    ... but what about we Americans?

  8. Re:Interesting by Brickwall · · Score: 2, Interesting
    $200,000? I'd rather wait and get a Moller Skycar for $500,000.

    Of course, they've been promising that baby for five years now...

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  10. Back when I was still flying by GMontag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back when I was still flying (Army National National Guard, rotary wing) the landing checklist no longer included a fuel check (made sense to me).

    However, the "old guys" were in the habit of a fuel check before landing.

    One flight I finally responded to "fuel check" with "enough to land".

    The Pilot-in-Command responded: "How much?"

    Me: "Enough to land"

    He: "If you did not calculate it how do you know?"

    Me: "I don't have to calculate it. With or without fuel we are going to land."

    1. Re:Back when I was still flying by Wormholio · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In a low wing aircraft the fuel check is not just to see how much you have. You turn on the aux fuel pump, just in case the main pump fails during a critical flight period. You also switch to the fullest tank. You may have enough to land, but it does you no good if it's in the tank not selected.

      Ideally you perform this check a few minutes out or more, before things get real busy, so that any consequences of the tank change can be dealt with (eg. didn't get the selector in the detent, water in the other tank, etc...)

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    2. Re:Back when I was still flying by VAXcat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hah! That reminds me of the old checklist for engine out emergency landing at night. When you get down to 100 feet above ground, turn on the landing lights. If you don't like what you see...turn them off...

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  11. Re:Nitpick by isaac · · Score: 3, Informative

    This uses air-breathing jet engines. It's a jet pack.

    -Isaac

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  12. For range, stick with blades by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This personal helicopter can be flow for an hour or so and travels around 55 mph. Not as sexy as a jet pack, but it's far more utilitarian.

    1. Re:For range, stick with blades by nosredna · · Score: 5, Funny

      When the personal helicopter is more utilitarian than the product you're marketing, it's probably time to go back to the drawing board.

  13. 5 minutes?! by weasello · · Score: 5, Informative

    I get upset when my fully loaded Cessna 172 only fits 4 hours of fuel. I can see getting by with two, *maybe* one hour of fuel in a jetpack. But seriously - what can you do in 5 minutes?!?

    It's not even enough to consider a form of commuting; you can barely accomplish any task that wouldn't be done easier with a helicopter/climbing ropes/scissor lift, plus the huge pricetag...

    For most aircraft, FAA requires your flying vehicle to be able to get you to your destination with 30 minutes of backup fuel for delays, emergencies, or unforseen weather. Having a 5 minute flight time kind of negates all that...

    At best, I see this as a backyard novelty at worst and an airshow wonder at best.

    1. Re:5 minutes?! by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, it would allow you to commit suicide by jumping off quite small bridges.

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    2. Re:5 minutes?! by Burning1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Bugatti Vayron is the worlds fastest production car. It's top speed is 250MPH. At that speed, the only place it can be used is on a speedway. It's fuel supply will last all of 17 minutes.

      It's my dream car.

      The wright brothers first flight didn't even last a minute. It was worth it.

      Utility isn't the only measure of value.

  14. Re:Why? by linvir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The crowd won't exactly be 10 feet off the ground. One guy will be 50 meters up and heading east to his job. Another will be 30 meters up and heading northeast. Another 100 meters up heading south, and so on and so on.

    Once they've figured out the jetpack technology, they're going to have to get to work on some pretty clever crash prevention tech as well.

  15. checklist by AlgorithMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    [X] Jetpack
    [X] Nightvision
    [X] Steroids
    [X] Medikit
    [X] Armor
    [ ] holoduke
    [ ] atomic health

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  16. $100,000 Preorder... checks in the mail! by jhfry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sure, I'll write the check now... considering you've proven that the jetpack managed to lift you a couple of inches on a teather. Of course I'm confident that you will be able to resolve all the issues of flight stability and emergency parachutes etc.

    Is anyone else a little skeptical. Who in thier right mind would preorder something that hasn't even been properly demonstrated. Now if this guy managed to take off to about 30ft, hover a bit, then travel for a minute or two while performing some impressive demonstration of the manuverability I might consider this a worthwhile project. Otherwise it is nothing but a pipe dream... anyone can locate a motor of reasonable size and weight then mount it to a backpack... making it fly is the hard part!

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  17. Re:Why not just parachute? by RM6f9 · · Score: 4, Informative
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  18. For $200k, I'll stick with airplanes... by kcbrown · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lessee...the plane:

    • costs about the same
    • is much faster
    • flies much further
    • has an enclosed, heated cabin for comfort
    • and last but not least, glides in the event of an engine failure

    So why, exactly, would I spend money on this? It might have a larger coolness factor, but that'll wear off fast.

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    1. Re:For $200k, I'll stick with airplanes... by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

      VTOL stand for Very Tragic Ordeal with Lacerations, right?

  19. Skywalker? by dfn5 · · Score: 3, Funny
    I think a more apt name would've been The Fett Jett.

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  20. The video is hilarious by cryptomancer · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Cables holding me down.." No, I can just barely see the wires the's suspended by, in his backyard, with his mom watching as he lifts his feet off the ground to pretend that he's flying. ...I'm sorry, even if it's legit and that's not his mom, the video is kinda funny.

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  21. Re:The video is hilarious (and a scam) by airuck · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The video suddenly pixelates when he lifts his feet. It is a scam.

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  22. have you seen the jeep commercial? by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (is it jeep?) where the guy kisses his wife, and parachutes into the canyon to his car?/ how do you think exactly, he goes from the driveway back to his house...

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  23. Re:Someone already has one by texas_mustang · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd like to see someone pilot one of these. http://gprime.net/video.php/flyinglawnmower

  24. Re:Someone already has one by AMSRay · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Bell Rocketbelt used by The Rocketman was first flown in the early 1960's, and seems to be much more stable and with longer flying time than the Skywalker backpack. I don't know how the cost would compare, but 40 years of flying is a pretty good record for such an experimental device.

  25. Re:one other little thing by UncleJam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The prototype can hardly leave the ground.

  26. Re:Nitpick by 6ULDV8 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The reference article is wrong. It uses engines similar to http://www.jetcatusa.com/p160.html

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  27. If you read up on the history of jet/rocket packs by merreborn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... You'll find that one of the main reasons they've never taken off, aside from the extreme risk and cost, is they're *incredibly* hard to control! The throttle's extremely sensitive, the power is immense, and if point it the wrong way, you'll either spin out of control, or plummet.

  28. Come on people.... by Cherita+Chen · · Score: 3, Informative
    What is with all the hubbub regarding the name? His company is called "Skywalker Jets", not "Luke Skywalker Jets", not"Anakin Skywalker Jets", and not "Skywalker Studios Jets". Think about it... The folks at "Thompson Food Group" aren't suing the folks at "Thompson Building Materials", are they? Even if Lucas is peeved about the name, just give the guy a Jetpack, that ought to pacify him as well as be a great PR stunt.

    P.S. It is important to note that Mr. Herron holds the trademark for "Skywalker Jets". If you're interested in finding out more about trademarks, or searching the database, go here

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  29. Discussed on rcuniverse by starbird · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a large thread with much laughter and skepticism over at rcuniverse.

    http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3729699/mpage_1/ key_/tm.htm

  30. Re:If you read up on the history of jet/rocket pac by aXis100 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just like a jet fighter.

    That's why you build the control algorithm into a $10 10MHz microcontroller - it can compensate faster than humans.

  31. GPM? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The gas mileage on these things is going to suck, right when gas hits $10-20:gal when they finally arrive. Maybe jetpacks and flying cars will inspire inventors to produce alternate energy sources for them, just like Rudolf Diesel originally planned for the engine he invented.

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  32. 17 minutes *at full speed*.... by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At normal speeds the fuel lasts a bit longer than that.

    PS: Jeremey Clarkson said the fuel only lasts 11 minutes at full speed, I don't know who's right, but at least he's driven one.

    PPS: In Germany/France there's no speed limit on many roads. You could drive it faster in Europe than on a "speedway" (whatever that is) and the police will most likely just wave you on.

    In Italy there's limits but if you're in a Bugatti they'll probably let it pass.... save the tickets for the people who drive Mercedes/BMWs.

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  33. Autorotation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Don't know about reserve tanks, but helos have another option to get down in a somewhat controlled fashion if the engine goes out. It's called autorotation.

  34. Fett-Pack? by GreenSwirl · · Score: 2, Informative

    Jango Fett got beheaded by Mace Windu when his jetpack failed to ignite after he got run over by a Reek. Boba Fett got digested by a Sarlacc after Han Solo blindly whacked his jetpack, sending him ricocheting off Jabba's barge.

    Jetpacks in the Star Wars Universe are about as advisable as superhero capes in The Incredibles' world.