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Spanish Region Goes Entirely Open Source

greengrass writes to tell us TechWorld is reporting that the Spanish region of Extremadura has decided to go completely open source with their day-to-day operations. While the region has long been a supporter of open source software, within a year it will be a requirement that all officials use the ODF and PDF formats for all documents. From the article: "Extremadura, Spain's poorest region, made headlines following a 2002 decision to migrate about 70,000 desktops and 400 servers in its schools to a locally tailored version of Debian called gnuLinEx. The government has estimated that the total cost of this project was about 190,000 euros (£130,000), 18 million euros lower than if the schools had purchased Microsoft software. "

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  1. Is it just me? by olego · · Score: 5, Funny

    I read that as "Spanish Religion Goes Entirely Open Source", and spent the next few seconds wondering about the implication of this transition.

    1. Re:Is it just me? by Torstein+Haldorsen · · Score: 5, Funny

      I misread it the same way, and I am in the process of actually founding an "Open Source Religion". A coherent organized worldview that is dynamic, module-based and upgradable. In contrast with the thousands of years old, monolithic, static and all-to-often fundamentalist doctrines that monopolize the religious market today. I say it's about time they get some competition.

  2. Re:gnuLinEx by atomicstrawberry · · Score: 5, Informative

    Based off here it looks like it's basically Debian Sarge with a set of useful applications - I assume the ones that have different names eg Zurbarán (Gimp 2.2) are localised builds.

  3. Re:gnuLinEx by 4e617474 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what I could find, it's mostly a localized Debian with a few tweaks for ease-of-use and some educational apps and such. Review linked by distrowatch.

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  4. Good by Wylfing · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good. Now if only my local government would listen to me and stop wasting millions of dollars on MS licenses. (Their "compatibility" issue boils down to being compatible with the printer -- they always print out their stuff on letterhead and mail it through the post!)

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  5. Vista makes it worse, actually... by jkrise · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What exactly do schools look for in "Computer curriculum"? Most I know only look for a browser, a HTML editor and some presentation s/w on the clients side. The servr side is mostly some Courseware s/w - Moodle or Drupal; LDAP; Centralised File System etc.

    There has been no incentive for schools to upgrade from Windows 98, indeed many schools near me have about 80% of their systems running Win98, and the students are quite happy with what they're getting. There's absolutely no incentive to upgrade to WinXP (although a RAM upgrade might allow XP to run).

    Schools in fact have every reason to ask Microsoft WHAT EXACTLY they get in return for Big $$ they need to shell out in MS upgrades. If they switch (the servers are already on Linux) the clients also to Linux, schools will have absolutely zero incentive to upgrade to Vista.

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  6. Simple math by orzetto · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The government has estimated that the total cost of this project was about 190,000 euros, 18 million euros lower than if the schools had purchased Microsoft software.

    Good argument for GNU, Linux and open source in general with your boss: cuts your software costs by 98.9%. Finally someone puts an official number on this.

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  7. Re:A Goal! by kripkenstein · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is what Opensource should be using its power to do. Good work every one!

    Yes. A few detailed points:

    1. When you have tens of thousands of desktops, the money saved by not paying Microsoft is so great, that you can even afford to pay people to code a few specific things you need (regional customization, etc.). This is the beauty of the open source stack - you get 99% of the code FOR FREE; salaries for a few good programmers to code the last 1% is cheaper than 70,000 MS licenses. Now, I don't know if the region of Extremadura pay the salaries of the LinEx people; but my point is that even if they did, it would be a huge savings.

    2. That last 1% of code may be GPL (in case it's integrated into the system and not completely standalone, or, even if it is standalone, a government or nonprofit might free the source code anyhow). So others will also be able to benefit from it.

    Back to the article itself, this latest news is very good, and may be another sign of slowly-building momentum for the Open Source movement.

  8. And now for the gaming version..! by STDOUBT · · Score: 4, Interesting
    http://juegalinex.linex.org/

    Here you can find the "home-user" version.
    And here (PDF Warning!!),
    https://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/64/Linux_Maga zine_DVD.pdf
    you can read an English language article describing this special
    home version called JuegaLinex (Play LinEx).

    It gives an option at install-time to d/l nvidia or ati 3D drivers.
    I put this on a 800mHz mini-itx box for my niece and nephew--
    They loved it!
    (You can easily localize this version to English)
    Many educational apps and a ridiculous number of games!
    I recommend to try it on any small people you may know.

  9. Re:Good now they don't have an excuse to pirate by by davaguco · · Score: 5, Informative

    Spain is not third world, by any account or figure.

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  10. Re:gnuLinEx by xtracto · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, I can read spanish, and after reading the What's new information I found two or three quite interesting things. I will try to summarize them here:

    • Primer arranque (First boot): Allows graphics booting using gfxboot, something quite nice for "normal" users, as I remember my flatmate got scared at the Ubuntu screen boot, with the list of the [OK] and [FAILED] services status (background here).
    • Instalación (Installing): Just a graphical installer with graphical partition resizing, I saw this already when installing Ubuntu and Mandriva.
    • Más comodidad (More confortability [is that a word?]): Just the old root/user password option with automatic login.
    • Un Escritorio más vivo (more alive desktop),Mantente a la última (stay at the edge), El nuevo Actualizar LinEx (New LinEx Update): Some desktop backgrounds, system update and package installer. Nothing too fancy IMHO.
    • Aptéalo con APTZILLA ("Aptate it" with APTZILLA) : This is something which I believe is worth to mention, I have never seen something simillar in any other distribution. It seems to be a Firefox extension that enables to install software from an internet page. It would be very interesting to try it because from what it seems it would be a way to achieve the "click+download+click^x+install" behaviour in Windows for the end user (my father for example wont be able to install Repast framework in Ubuntu because it is not in the repositores, whereas to install it on Windows he just have to download the installer and run it).
    • El Panel de Control de gnuLinEx: A control panel similar to what a lot of other distributions have. HOWEVER I find quite relevant that they embed the WINE emulator (which btw I.N.an E.), I imagine they try to make as easy as possible to enable Windows applications to run in Linux. That is the other property worth to note, as I have not seen any distribution that gives so much importance to it (well, besides the commecial distros like xandros, lindows [ya ya I like to call it Lindows], etc).
    • El wiki personal (The Personal Wiki [see, spanish is not that hard]): That is the other interesting application, which a wiki like note taker (the application seems to be Tomboy.


    Well, all the other properties I did not listed are the ones that I have seen in other distributions.

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