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PS3 Production 'In Full Swing'

1up is reporting on comments from Phil Harrison, saying that the PS3 is in full production mode. There are apparently already 10,000 devkits out there, and something like 100 games in the pipe already for the console. From the article: "Sounds pretty much like the usual rah-rah, go-team kind of stuff you'd expect to hear before a major system launch, but mentions of third-party support become far more interesting when you learn that many folks, both within Sony and without, are apparently 'scared of the wrath of Phil Harrison,' according to a Guardian source. Are third-party developers as excited and supportive as Harrison would have us believe, or are they just scared of receiving a Sony-flavored beat down?"

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  1. And Tommorow's Story by fullphaser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Developer's PS3's all catching on fire, sony claims lack of fans...

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    Did someone say cake?
  2. Bizarre! by Threni · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why not link directly to the article here, instead of going via some other site?

    http://technology.guardian.co.uk/weekly/story/0,,1 835502,00.html

    1. Re:Bizarre! by PygmySurfer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not link directly to the article here, instead of going via some other site?

      How can you generate hits to 1up.com if you link directly to the story at The Guardian?

    2. Re:Bizarre! by dolson · · Score: 1

      Because that's what Digg does, and it seems to be working for them.

  3. so... by pestilence669 · · Score: 1

    So modchips will be available when?

    1. Re:so... by atomicstrawberry · · Score: 1

      Sony have quite cleverly declared that the PS3 will be completely region-free. The implications of this are that they can then get modchips outlawed completely, even in countries like Australia where they've been ruled legal. After all, if there's no regioning in the system, the only reason to get a modchip is to play 'backups' (which we all know is basically a synonym for 'pirated copies') and the occaisonal homebrew.

    2. Re:so... by FunkyELF · · Score: 1

      Occasional homebrew??? My modded xbox broke a little while ago and I went out and got a new one and a new modchip for the sole purpose of running homebrew applications like xbmc and gentoox.

    3. Re:so... by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they saw how few people bothered with a modchip on the Gamecube because its region restrictions could easily be cracked with an easily available disc.

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  4. Uh... whatever, Zonk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why exactly would they be afraid of Phil Harrison? I mean, what's Harrison going to do, throw a chair at them?

    1. Re:Uh... whatever, Zonk by ZakuSage · · Score: 1

      No, he's going to throw a small rubber ducky.

  5. non-story by deuterium · · Score: 1

    Yeah, yeah. What would a reporter expect him to say?
    Considering that the console is due on the scene in only 4 months, I would hope that developers had all the tools they needed by now. This isn't realy much of a statement, and actually seems like a backhanded admission that things haven't been going well up to now.
    "All the pieces of the puzzle are there..."
    To dust off an old chestnut, do you want a cookie or something? Why is this worthy of Slashdot news?

  6. Needed to by TheOrangeMan · · Score: 1

    Homer: Hummm... Sony-flavored beat down (drooling noises).

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    My left arm is all scars and I consider that a valid excuse...
    1. Re:Needed to by twistedsymphony · · Score: 1

      Something tells me Sony flavoring would taste like a cross between licorice and grape soda...

  7. Round One. by cjkeeme · · Score: 2, Interesting

    According to a report, about 200 thousand component sets were shipped to Asus in June, which means that the company is in position to build 200 thousand game consoles. Seems like a nice start for Sony.

  8. Re:Amazing Console by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    My sources tell me that it's better than that, that there's a huge surprise in store for PS3 buyers.

    Sit down - because you may find this one difficult to believe. But it's 100% true.

    Every PS3 will come with a $2,000 coupon towards a brand new Sony plasma TV. And yes, if you use the coupon toward a TV costing less than $2,000 (and Sony markets three, right now, and that's going by MSRP, so you can find many more), the TV is free.

    So for $600, you not only get the best console, but you get a high quality television as part of the bargain.

    Oh, and one more thing.

    Yes, the PS3 will come with Linux. But it will also come with Mac OS X. Sony's the first company since 1996 to license the Macintosh operating system. You can't get better than that.

    Yahoo! Stocks Message boards, a message from an insider spills the beans.

  9. ...said the Nintendo fanboy by LKM · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Ah yes, the approaching launch of the dominant console

    ...said the Nintendo fanboy before the launch of the N64.

    ...said the Atari fanboy before the launch of the 5200.

    We don't know how this generation is going to play out. We don't know how good the PS3 will do. We don't know how good the graphics are. We don't know how the Wii games will look, and most of us don't know how they'll play. We don't know how adults and non-gamers will respond to the Wii. We don't know if the PS3 is going to be worth it for them.

    We know nothing, and history only tells us one thing: Unexpected things do happen.

    1. Re:...said the Nintendo fanboy by timeOday · · Score: 1
      We know nothing, and history only tells us one thing: Unexpected things do happen.
      I can predict one thing about the future for certain... I am not paying $600 for a console. (At least until inflation changes the meaning of "$600").
    2. Re:...said the Nintendo fanboy by piper-noiter · · Score: 1

      Actually history tells us two thing. Unexpected things happen, and the most expensive console almost never wins.

      Sega Saturn
      3DO
      NeoGeo
      Intelevision (I had one, it was awesome. It still lost to Atari)
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    3. Re:...said the Nintendo fanboy by Duds · · Score: 1

      And what we DO know is that Sony has made several of the classic mistakes that have cost others in the past.

    4. Re:...said the Nintendo fanboy by ZakuSage · · Score: 1

      $500, the $600 has nothing useful to offer the majority of people.

    5. Re:...said the Nintendo fanboy by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      That's only movies and if Bluray still exists when the ICT is reintroduced you can probably buy a standalone player for 50 bucks. Never mind that I wouldn't use a PS3 for movies considering Sony's stellar track record with drive quality...

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    6. Re:...said the Nintendo fanboy by LKM · · Score: 2, Insightful
      We can certainly speculate that they'll slightly better than the GC, since that is what the hardware is.

      Uhm... You working at Nintendo? ATI? IBM's chip business? Didn't think so. You can speculate all day long, but you don't know jack shit, just like everyone else. You don't know the Wii's specs.

  10. Bring out the 'zonked" tag by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Well I thought perhaps the anti-sony slant here had calmed down, but it seems to be back again - how long did it take to find a blog with a negative slant on a story about manufacturing?

    Time to re-activate the 'zonked' tag.

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    1. Re:Bring out the 'zonked" tag by toddhunter · · Score: 1

      I used to worry about Zonks posts, but lets be honest, who really cares how much microsoft is paying him to shill? Once everything is released we'll all be off to sources we trust to help make our decisions anyway.

    2. Re:Bring out the 'zonked" tag by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I don't really care either (doubting that these posts to SLashdot are having any kind of influence in the world at large), but it would be nice for historical record if a tag trail were there to remind him and the rest of us what once was.

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    3. Re:Bring out the 'zonked" tag by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Sony is facing a struggle over its PlayStation 3, with critics concerned about the processor and the price. Jack Schofield reports on the next stage in the console wars.
       
      This is taken from the guardian newspaper. I don't think it took much surfing to find a negative view about Sony's PS3. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it is not just a slashdot slant (as with most things), there are a lot of people who don't like what has happened. The only one with a slant, it would seem, is you.

    4. Re:Bring out the 'zonked" tag by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      I agree it's easy to find negative stories about the PS3. There are also positive stories - such as PS3's going to manufacturing. What is a slant is when you take a positive or neutal story and put negative spin on it - after all, if there are so mnay negative stories already why try to spin the neutral ones in that direction as well?

      I have no slant of my own, I think all three next-gen consoles have compelling features. I would just like to see straightforward reporting here instead of commentary that makes one roll the eyes at the obvious bias.

      It's not like I am the only one that sees this either, there have been plenty of other comments from each and every one of the "zonked" posts.

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    5. Re:Bring out the 'zonked" tag by BlackRookSix · · Score: 1

      Sorry, pal, but the PS3 really has earned it's bad news.

      This is compared against the "good news" of the other consoles? As a relatively disconnected gamer who is intentionally keeping away from the hype wars that the current generation of consoles is generating, haven't every one of them had bad news?

      Xbox 360: Overheating. Rumors of catching fire? Tons of bug patches in the first few months? This does not lend me to say "Wow, very stable and something I'd want to buy for my child's room."

      Wii/Revolution: The ridiculous name change fiasco aside, has anyone even heard if it will step up and just play DVDs? If so, have they announced which HD-DVD format they are using? Also, in comparison, I haven't heard squat on how many games are slated for this platform at all.

      PS3: Overpriced. Late. Hardware issues? Maybe, but compared to the other two, it doesn't seem any worse.

      Honestly? In regards to the money thing, most gamers might pay for it if it is to truly take the place of a gaming computer, without the constant updates, copy protection eating your media drives, malware, etc, etc, etc. And, I am betting that many gamers are waiting on the PS3 for two major reasons: More games, and proven track record with the PS and PS2.

  11. 100 games in the pipe... by acomj · · Score: 4, Funny

    100 games in the pipe...No wonder my email is so slow...

    Oh wait.. tubes, not pipes.

    Never mind.

    1. Re:100 games in the pipe... by 7Prime · · Score: 1

      lol, was I the only one who got this?

      http://www.cafepress.com/leftward.66531036
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  12. Re:Amazing Console by Null+Nihils · · Score: 1

    Dear Slashdotters,

    Recommend you avoid modding up contrived-sounding unsubstantiated rumours posted by an AC.

    Love,
    Null Nihils

  13. Lack of sarcasm detected by acomj · · Score: 1

    Who moded this "insitefull"..

    Funny, maybe..

  14. Re:Amazing Console by elrous0 · · Score: 1
    But what of rendering Toy Story realtime?!?!? WILL IT RENDER TOY STORY REALTIME?!?!?!?

    Please, Lord God, tell me it will!!!!!

    -Eric

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    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  15. Re:Amazing Console by scot4875 · · Score: 1

    Just because you found a quote that can be attributed to Seamus Blackley does not mean that Sony didn't say it first.

    I remember, very clearly, when the PS2 tech demos (remember the rubber duck?) came out, about boasts of Toy Story graphics by Sony. I also remember the post by a Pixar employee refuting the claim.

    Unfortunately, it's gotten so buried in the 'net by trolling fanboys playing he-said-she-said that it's impossible to find a link anymore. Closest I can come with a quick search is:

    here

    --Jeremy

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  16. The launch time was never the issue by Travoltus · · Score: 1

    Everyone knows Sony is better on its word than MS: if they say the PS3 is coming out, it's coming out, and in large numbers. Mistakes in the past aside, they won't make the same mistake MS did with the 360.

    No, indeed, they are making other mistakes.

    Disclaimer: I plan on getting a PS3 on the release day.

    The doom and gloom talk surround Sony is based on (by order of importance):

    a) the arguably prohibitively high price of the PS3
    b) the staggering loss it is nonetheless taking per unit sold
    c) whether or not Blu-Ray will dominate or crash and burn as a next gen DVD format
    d) the difficulty of programming games for such an ubercomplex processor

    In short, if the production cost per unit is too high and the price at the store is too high for customers to buy, Sony may be digging its grave one inch deeper with each unit that comes out.

    But I still want one. I'm banking on the PS3 delivering what I crave - gargantuan Speedtree-enhanced environments with very smart interactive NPC's in a nonlinear universe as diverse as Morrowind and Oblivion combined plus as fast and frenzied as Ninety Nine Nights! [PS3 fan boy mode on, must stop now.]

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    1. Re:The launch time was never the issue by BlackRookSix · · Score: 1

      All of the platforms are going to have (or do have) problems. 360 has its overheating and supply issues. Microsoft rushed it to market like a madman, and has been playing catch-up since. They released how many bug patches the first few months? Has anyone heard anything about how many games are slated for Wii? Seems like every game commercial or trailer I see says "Coming to PC, XBox360 and PS3." or some subset of those three. Hardly ever is Wii mentioned.

      My guess is that the PS3 will sell fine, just like the 360 is doing, and as the Wii will. The hype alone is driving the drool value for most console gamers up, and let's face it: in the American crowd, drool value is driven by marketing, which rarely has any realistic connection to the engineering or manufacturing departments. How long have we put up with "trailers" that are CGI animations, not actual game-play, or are heavily post-production doctored for venues like E3? Oh, and E3 alone has become the bane of the industry itself, many would say. It used to be about games and innovation. Now it is about marketing droids driving interest, mailing lists so they can spam you, and click-through ads. They'll do everything in their power to grab the gamer's attention, because some idiot released that gaming is the next largest industry after movies, so all of the droids came running.

      Don't be fooled. For every "outspoken" gamer activist with an opinion, there are 10-20 gamers who are not die hard Slashdotters, don't give a rat's ass about sites like Gamespot, and they buy their games at Walmart or Target (American chain stores) instead of dedicated gamer stores. That segment of the market is much more powerful than the 5% that are ranting or bitching here or there about this or that. That segment is the mindless drone that is swayed by meatless marketing driving the market right now.

  17. Zonk gone? by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

    That would be so nice, we could get a games editor who doesn't aspire to be a tabloid writer.

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    1. Re:Zonk gone? by BlackRookSix · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is a tabloid. You haven't caught on to that yet? How naive are you, again? ;)

      They get paid for their ads, and they drive clicks/views to those pages, just like every other drivel site. Only thing is, sometimes there is actual news on here.

      It is quite obvious. They post the stories, and don't even comment on them. Hell, I bet that they don't even read the comments!

  18. Curious how Sony solved their memory b/w problem by veranikon · · Score: 1

    Not terribly long ago, Inquirer ran a story about how the Cell processor in the PS3 suffered from a rather striking lack of local memory (e.g. cache) bandwidth. "Striking," as in the read bandwidth being something like 3 orders of magnitude slower than the corresponding write bandwidth. I'm curious whether this problem was fixed by spinning new silicon, or whether Sony must ship their flawed boxes as-is.