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Jamais Cascio on Gadgets and the Future

Armchair Anarchist writes "Futurismic has just posted the first column from its new monthly contributor, the renowned Jamais Cascio. Cascio is best known as a co-founder of Worldchanging.com, but is also a prolific blogger (at his own site 'Open The Future'), writer, public speaker and pundit on many aspects of futurism and foresight. This new piece sees him discussing the way futurist thinkers tend to focus on gadgets and technology, and advocating the use of more critical approaches."

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  1. Is this guy int he right line of work? by NonSequor · · Score: 5, Funny

    It must be really hard to be a futurist when your first name means "never" in French.

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    1. Re:Is this guy int he right line of work? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      And your last name is a poorly spelled calculator brand.

      Maybe he should change his name to "Always HP" and get sponsored ?

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  2. Don't try this at home, kids by Shubalubdub · · Score: 5, Funny

    So what we're reading...is some guy talking about other guys talking about their guesses for the future. It's...a whole new realm of mental masturbation. I'd try my hand at it myself, but I'm afraid I might break my mental wrist.

    1. Re:Don't try this at home, kids by ArwynH · · Score: 1

      Ah, so it's not just me who found the blurb a bit strange then.

      I mean, does this guy have any actual experience in the industry he's talking about? The blurb just mentioned he talks alot...

    2. Re:Don't try this at home, kids by magetoo · · Score: 2, Funny
      I feel like I should be blogging about us discussing this.


      Seriously, the column linked isn't all that bad; but it's hardly newsworthy.

    3. Re:Don't try this at home, kids by smchris · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nerds have been indulging in it for decades in the privacy of their rooms. It's called science fiction -- with an emphasis on the science. "Futurism" seems like a PR attempt to get invited to better parties and better academic or think tank gigs. Perhaps by those who don't feel competent to handle the "fiction" half?

      Flippant? I don't know. How many sci fi writers have, or have had, day jobs as scientists and mathematicians? (Quite a few.) "Serious" science fiction has always been that outlet where people can explore their "futuristic" speculations without being considered a crank in their day job.

      As for dealing with gadgets, I think William Gibson would say he has always dealt with how his envisioned distopia affects the lives of his characters. Any good writer would. Perhaps that is where "futurism" has always been inferior to science fiction.

    4. Re:Don't try this at home, kids by wild_berry · · Score: 1

      It's the launch of his column/blog at that 'Furutrismic' site. That's the news. +slownewsday +slashvert +productlaunch tags, then.

    5. Re:Don't try this at home, kids by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 1
      Nerds have been indulging in it for decades in the privacy of their rooms. It's called science fiction

      Uhh... so that's what it's called now? Well see ya guys later... I'm going to indulge in some "science fiction," if you know what I mean.
  3. Society creates art, or art creates society by ozmanjusri · · Score: 3, Insightful
    This is just a variation of the old debate about whether art (including popular expressions of art such as movies, games etc) merely reflects the society that created it or whether it is art that creates and changes society.

    The answer, obviously, is that neither choice is exclusive of the other, and that both are often true.

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    1. Re:Society creates art, or art creates society by foobsr · · Score: 1

      The answer, obviously, is that neither choice is exclusive of the other, and that both are often true.

      Yes, some call it interaction, and some add "weak" and "strong".

      CC.

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  4. I'm sure he is a splendid chap 'n all... by Angostura · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... but maybe it would be better to wait until he posts a really interesting, insightful column before posting it to the front page of Slashdot. This was just a preliminary bit of throat clearing from what I can see.

    And really - a futurologist who finishes his column with "I can't wait to see how it turns out." - that's right up there with "only time will tell" - much beloved of lazy trainy-journalists who have got tired of thinking and have completed their allotted word count.

    1. Re:I'm sure he is a splendid chap 'n all... by Pullman · · Score: 1

      It seems to me, that a futurologist is someone who's entire job it is to think of things that are either blitheringly obvious, or stupidly unlikely. I read an article by some futurologists working for BT, and they were trying to guess what we would be doing in 20, 30, 40 and even 50 years time. The idea of predicting what we will be using our computers, or even our cameras for in 50 years is up there with predicting the second coming of Elvis. Any fool can do it. Anyone want to employ me?

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  5. Last time I heard futurist in a sentence by totallygeek · · Score: 1
    Was the Segway guy, Dean Kamen. 'Nough said.

    1. Re:Last time I heard futurist in a sentence by dylan_- · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough, I saw a Segway in use on TV the other day. At the British Open (Golf) the steadicam operator was on a hands-free model. The players seemed quite impressed!

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    2. Re:Last time I heard futurist in a sentence by raftpeople · · Score: 1

      The Segway has a niche in transportation. I see them being used. While I agree with your sentiment about futurists (generally), I think your choice of examples doesn't support your argument.

    3. Re:Last time I heard futurist in a sentence by totallygeek · · Score: 1

      The Segway was going to do away with walking. The sales projections purposed showed them being used by just about everyone living in a city. I think the example is fitting.

  6. And his main argument is flawed, too: by hummassa · · Score: 1
    from TFA:
    There's an evident problem, however, with technology being effectively the sole focus; many (arguably most) of the significant drivers of change in the world today have more to do with religion, or economics, or the environment than with technological toys. Looking only (or primarily) at new gadgets misses out on the big picture.
    The problem with this argument is that all of religion, economics, and environment are, ultimately, about gadgets. Think about it.
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  7. Technology embodies our values by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 4, Interesting
    From the article: There's an evident problem, however, with technology being effectively the sole focus; many (arguably most) of the significant drivers of change in the world today have more to do with religion, or economics, or the environment than with technological toys. Looking only (or primarily) at new gadgets misses out on the big picture. The deeper problem is more subtle and, in my view, more important. A preponderance of focus on emerging technologies leads one to start thinking of technology as a neutral driver of change, rather than as a material manifestation of social values. More often than not, the emergence of new forms of technology is less a catalyst for social change than a result of it. As a result, technology is not neutral. It embodies -- and is biased by -- the underlying values of the cultures in which it is developed.

    Sounds like he's just discovered what Langdon Winner has been saying since the 1970s, and others since before then. Slashdot frequently sees posts like "a razor blade can be used for good or evil" implying technology is value neutral -- but it isn't. Technology embodies our values, especially when looked at as a system including favorite economic stories at the time -- including a decision to invest in, say, designing nuclear weapons design or marketing larger SUVs instead of say, curing river blindness or designing electric cars -- decisions driven by values.

    Contrast, say, Disney's investments in controlling media with DRM versus the RepRap project to make a free 3D printer. Winner goes further in his book _Autonomous Technology_ and suggests large bureaucracies "reverse adapt", changing their environment to perpetuate themselves, including the legal environment. So, if you can't make or share your own media or 3D models, then you are dependent on Disney or whoever. Consider the kind of technology to sustain the values described here: CLAWS: Creating Livable Alternatives to Wage Slavery and how it might differ from the politics and policies and technologies and infrastructure of today. Or from this essay The Abolition of Work: "Clearly these ideology-mongers have serious differences over how to divvy up the spoils of power. Just as clearly, none of them have any objection to power as such and all of them want to keep us working. ... Only a small and diminishing fraction of work serves any useful purpose independent of the defense and reproduction of the work-system and its political and legal appendages. Twenty years ago, Paul and Percival Goodman estimated that just five percent of the work then being done -- presumably the figure, if accurate, is lower now -- would satisfy our minimal needs for food, clothing and shelter. Theirs was only an educated guess but the main point is quite clear: directly or indirectly, most work serves the unproductive purposes of commerce or social control."

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  8. Cascio article by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    "This is a more important issue than you might think. If you doubt the relevance of social values when thinking about the future, ask yourself: how would an intelligent machine built by computer scientists in China differ from one built by computer scientists in the United States... Or an electric car design coming from computer industry veterans rather than a Big Three carmaker? "

    1 - The intelligent machine built in the US is not censored
    2 - Electric car would be highly efficient and not consume oil, therefore it is blocked by the lobbying power of oil companies which have recently benefitted from record profits given to them by high oil costs ($74/barrel.)

    Electric cars should be in use right now, there is no reason why we can't produce them efficiently - right now.

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    1. Re:Cascio article by ArwynH · · Score: 1
      1 - The intelligent machine built in the US is not censored

      Correction: The intelligent machine built in th US would not be officially censored.

      2 - Electric car would be highly efficient and not consume oil, therefore it is blocked by the lobbying power of oil companies which have recently benefitted from record profits given to them by high oil costs ($74/barrel.)

      Just because the car would run on electicity would not make it more efficient.

      As for being blocked by oil companies, it's more consumer economics than lobbying. Electic cars are available at the moment, they are just expencive and due to the lack of supporting refueling infrostructure, they are next to useless. The lack of refueling infrostructure is due to the lack of demand for it, basicly not enough electic cars to make it profitable enough. A nasty loop that won't be broken until someone with a lot of money decides to take the long term risk of building the infrostructure.

      Now I'm not saying the Oil companies are angels or that they are not greedy bastards, they are, but they are also not stupid. The largest sponsors of renewable fuel research are Oil companies. They are not against you using them, since they make money on them aswell. And when the time is right (most profitable) they will invest that money in the infrostructure for renewable fuels. That I suspect will happen in the next few (5-10) years or so. And if history is anything to go by, when it does there will be a 'format war' with each company trying to make it's form of renewable fuel the dominant one. It'll be hell. ;_;

    2. Re:Cascio article by sgt_doom · · Score: 1
      Thanks for an intelligent, highly knowledgeable post.

      You point out the humongous weak point and fallacy with all such "futurist" stuff. According to the 1974 Senate Select Committee Investigation on the Transportation Industry, a successful conspiracy took place over a period of thirty-some years. This was verified by the testimony (under oath, the way they used to do it in the olden days...) of former executives of GM, Sunoco and Firestone, who did willfully conspire to subvert and destroy urban transit systems throughout the United States, especially on the West Coast, by buying up electric trolley systems and companies and then dissolving them.

      How many times, and how many successful conspiracies, have taken place to curtail the future and set us back so many decades, if not centuries??? Certainly something like that is transpiring today when the plutocratic elites in North America seek to enhance the prosperity of very few, while destroying the prosperity of the vast majority.....

  9. Futurists get it all wrong lately. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Because they fail to look at the rampant stupidity and greed that is making innovation go down the toilet.

    Examples? sure! I currently have great TV service at home, I do not have Cable or Dish I use the Internet. Some of the shows I want to watch are NOT on the net for me to collect so I have installed "collectors" at friends homes to record and then foreward my few recordings to me (low bandwidth plus I compress to mpeg4) My setup works great and all my friends and relatives think it's really cool and want one.

    One problem. It's 100% illegal. I have over 300 movies on it for on demand viewing, I have lots of video content from TV shows (yes WITH the commercials) as well as tons of IPTV content. The companies that deliver TV content are scared shitless because they know that they can easily be replaced. Channels and networks are 100% useless today people only care about shows that catch their fancy.

    So what happens? TV stations and networks fight tooth and nail to make sure that innovation is stifled. Therefore advances in the future are severely limited due to the short-sightedness of very rich and stupid people on the boards of large companies.

    They are even fighting the ipod and the slingbox and even Tivo's now. They can stifle any advances and cause a stoppage of innovation through legistlation.

    Futurists live in a dreamy world, they never take into accounts of events that severely limit or effect the future in drastic ways.

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  10. yes and no by beaverfever · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Most of the controversy surrounding these technologies has to do with what they mean -- that is, the values they embed -- not how they work."

    Take the mobile phone, for instance. When people were imagining mobile phones and how they would work, how much attention was paid to considering how people would really use them?

    People driving their cars through traffic while holding a phone to their ear and talking about shopping or going to a party, people sitting in restaurants or other public places speaking loudly into their phones, or mobiles ringing in the middle of discussions, meals,movies or plays, meetings, etc... These circumstances were considered rude or even illegal, and some of these are expected and tolerated now. They have become a normal part of our lives - our values have changed because of the technology.

    This guy is talking about looking at that aspect of new technology, changing how we think of its potential. When Buck Rogers movies showed a visual communicator thingy that worked like a tv, who would have thought that when television was invented people would sit in front of it for hours on end as if they were hypnotised?

    Perhaps by expanding on how we think of the potential of technology, then we can develop better technologies that really lead to people living better lives.

  11. futurists by vivIsel · · Score: 3, Informative

    This man has nothing to do with futurism. Futurism is far more interesting than anything he's talking about.

  12. Who? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    "Futurismic has just posted the first column from its new monthly contributor, the renowned Jamais Cascio.

    Who?

    Cascio is best known as a co-founder of Worldchanging.com,

    Wow. They changed the world so much I never heard of them.

    but is also a prolific blogger (at his own site 'Open The Future'),

    My friend's cat has a blog. Admittedly it tends to cover catnip, hunting birds and napping positions, but it's a blog nonetheless.

    writer, public speaker and pundit on many aspects of futurism and foresight.

    Ah. A self-promoter, then.

  13. Who gets to comment? by neatfoote · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cascio has worked on a number of television and film projects, and has designed two science fiction game settings, exploring issues of posthumanity, intellectual property, sapient AI, nanotechnology, and bioengineering. Jamais has degrees in Anthropology, History and Political Science.
     
        This snippet from the blogger's bio encapsulates, basically, why calls (like this one) for a turn away from "content" to "a more critical approach" make me nervous. It's true that social values influence technology, and that the nexus of the two is an important area of study-- but why is it that offers to critically examine that nexus always seem to come from outsiders who aren't themselves involved or well-versed in the technology?
     
    Everybody has an opinion, naturally, but a learned commentary on bioengineering, coming from a poli-sci type who may or may not have taken even the most introductory biology courses, would carry about as much weight for me as a lecture on Aristotle from my cocker spaniel. If "critical futurism" is poised to become a valid scholarly/intellectual discipline, I'd much rather see it populated by actual scientists and engineers-- people who're themselves helping to create the future, and who should therefore be in a good position to comment on how it's going-- than by film-school types who've read Foucault but can't do math.

    1. Re:Who gets to comment? by cynical · · Score: 1

      Jamais Cascio here.

      For what it's worth, my focus in my study of anthropology was human evolution, and I spent about six years post-grad school working in IT. If you check the archives of my articles at Worldchanging.com, you'll see that I have a reasonable grasp of a variety of sciences. Regardless, the larger issue of being skeptical of "experts" (self-described or otherwise) is a good one. I'd gently suggest, however, that it's not just scientists and engineers who are "helping to create the future," but also folks in a variety of non-technical fields. That's actually the point of the article -- there's more to futurism (professional or otherwise) than the latest technology.

      I was quite startled to see my name in a Slashdot headline this morning. I knew the Futurismic editor was going to submit it, but didn't seriously expect that the /. editors would pick up the piece. It's not exactly on-topic for this forum, and the venom that erupted in the first few hours of comments (most of which appears to have been modded down) likely reflects that off-topic nature as much as anything else. Fortunately, I've been reading /. for a very long time, so I know how seriously to take the nasty comments.

      Anyway, thanks for the (good) comments, and for not crashing my server.

      -Jamais

  14. Jamais Explores Own Rectum by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
    Is it just me who is sick and tired of seeing nobodies like this fool elevated to some prophet-like status purely because they happen to have a way with words?

    Let's elevate those people who actually achieve something making changes in our society like Linus Torvalds, Thomas Edison, Marie Curie or Tim Berners Lee - hell, we could even put Mr Gates on one of the lower pedestals!

    In my day, someone who said something without actually doing anything was known as a hypocrite - and "Personne" Cascio ("jamais" is French for "never" whereas "personne" is French for "nobody" which is more appropriate) is a hypocrite with his oversized head lodged firmly up his rectum.

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    1. Re:Jamais Explores Own Rectum by thereisnospork · · Score: 1

      you really ought to look in a dictionary before you start using long words you don't quite understand to insult people. That way, you stand a chance of making your target look like an ass, instead of just yourself. After you've looked up Hypocrite, may I recommend you also check out the following Shut Up You Vapid and also Tool

  15. Re:yes and no or cell phone usage by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Take the mobile phone, for instance. When people were imagining mobile phones and how they would work, how much attention was paid to considering how people would really use them?

    People driving their cars through traffic while holding a phone to their ear and talking about shopping or going to a party, people sitting in restaurants or other public places speaking loudly into their phones, or mobiles ringing in the middle of discussions, meals,movies or plays, meetings, etc... These circumstances were considered rude or even illegal, and some of these are expected and tolerated now. They have become a normal part of our lives - our values have changed because of the technology.


    Another thing is the fact that people, for the most part, are ditching their land line phones and replacing them with cell phones. This is especially true with younger people, who tend to move more, and are home less. Plus, you can turn them off.

    Driving while talking or listening to a cell phone is as dangerous - or more dangerous - than driving while legally drunk, according to recent scientific studies. Technology isn't good or evil, it's how you use it - ok, well, a nuclear bomb isn't "good".

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  16. Futurism is and always has been a scam by spun · · Score: 1

    This guy is no better than Nostradamus. He has no real insight, no technical background, no basis in the scientific method or objective reality. He is a paid fantasizer and daydreamer without the skill to even create an enjoyable storyline. I wonder how much this nobody paid slashdot to advertise his scam?

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  17. Didn't we have enough Political Sci turned pundits by nomad63 · · Score: 1

    Enough is enough. First Leo Laporte takes over the techtv like storm, with his degree in chinese linguistics or some other obscure discipline, along with his wine spectator turned pundit Dvorak. Now the likes of this Jamais Cascio guy, whom I never heard of before today. One look at the two klinked pages, he is nothing but a glorified blogger. Glorified only by likes of /.

    Day is 24 hours and I only have few minutes to be spared for functions like eating and sleeping. I can do without reading Jamais and his cohorts. /. is getting more and more to my nerves. No wonder digg is gainig up ground (and don't get me started with Kevin Rose. Puhlease)

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