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New Version of Mac OS X Leopard Leaked

the linux geek writes "InfoWorld has an article informing us that an early beta of Mac OS X 10.5 has been leaked. This appears to be the same build Steve Jobs previewed at WWDC, and contains most of the new features, including Time Machine and Spaces." From the article: "Attendees at last week's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) received copies of the beta ware and had to sign legally binding agreements not to let Leopard stray onto file-sharing networks. Perhaps someone didn't read the not-so-fine print? MacUser reports that this version of Leopard is indeed legit, unlike a fake one that was reportedly making its rounds last week. The version of Leopard available on BitTorrent is 4.3GB, containing 93 files."

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  1. Re:One thing... by autojive · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's Universal Binary.

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  2. It's not going to be generic. by argent · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple wouldn't release a generic OS X even for developers-only.

    Apple has announced that Leopard will be Universal (PPC + Intel) but it'll still require an Intel Mac, it won't run on random Intel hardware.

    1. Re:It's not going to be generic. by CatOne · · Score: 3, Informative

      You should check your facts, though -- iPods + iTMS are still not the majority of Apple's business -- the Mac business still the larger portion. It's like $6B for iPods, and $8B for Macs, software, etc.

      So over the past 4 years iPods have gone from $0 to $6B and Macs have gone from $5.7B to $8B. Whether these lines will cross in the future I don't know... we'll see. But today, iPods are *not* the majority of Apple's business. And Apple has seen real market share gains (from 2% to 4%) in the last 24 months.

    2. Re:It's not going to be generic. by keytohwy · · Score: 2, Informative
      This is just completely wrong. Apple's most recent quarterly report accounted for revenue of $1.866B for Mac sales, and $1.497B in iPod sales. Publicly available data here, so why spread bad info?
      . the iPods are generating more revenue than their computers
  3. Summary by kevin_conaway · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since I'm not a mac-head, the summary didn't make too much sense to me.

    Spaces: a new application for the Leopard operating system that enables users to group different applications in separate environments.

    Time Machine: you can back up and preserve everything on your Mac -- including priceless digital photos, music, movies, and documents -- without lifting a finger, you can go back in time to recover anything you've ever backed up.

  4. Clarification (nitpick)... by Cjays · · Score: 5, Informative
    Attendees at last week's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) received copies of the beta ware and had to sign legally binding agreements not to let Leopard stray onto file-sharing networks.
    They didn't have us sign anything. Obviously there was an already established legal agreement, but nothing was signed on the spot.
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  5. Re: Big mac fan not sure about Leopard by eczarny · · Score: 5, Informative

    Comments like this have been driving me insane. These features were announced at a developers conference. The majority of what Steve discussed about leopard was aimed at said developers. It may not seem like a whole lot of excitement to some. But to those developing on the platform, there is a lot to look forward to. - Garbage collection in Objective-C - An updated QTKit - Time Machine's API - Improved Spotlight - CoreAnimation - Xcode 3 - DashCode - Improved Boot Camp - And more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

  6. Re:Serious question. by Rob86TA · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apple and MS have different motivation to release a 5-pack.

    Apple sells hardware... by letting you install on 5 computers, they are hoping you will buy 4 more computers. $$$ in their pocket.

    MS doesn't sell hardware... by letting you install on 5 computers, they have removed 4 purchases the revenue stream. Sure you give more $$$ to Dell, Sony, or the whitebox dealer... and they just sold 4 less copies of XP. That's why there is no 5 pack for XP.

  7. On YouTube... by Simon+Simian · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... there are some videos of the GUI.

  8. Re:Mom, the leapard leaked on the carpet! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Seriously, though. $150 a year for your OS. It seems a bit shady to me. Do you apple fans have plans to skip eve/odd releases or something?

    It's more every 18-months than every year, and the education price gives a steep discount. Unlike MS educational discounts, you get a full version for the educational price (not a license that expires when you leave academia). This means you can resell it, so if you know someone in full-time education then they can get the student price for you. The lifespan of a Mac is about three years (that's the duration of the warranty, and I wouldn't want to run one much beyond that), which means about one upgrade per machine. I bought mine with 10.2, but I got a very cheap upgrade to 10.3, since it was released a few months later ( Skipping OS X releases is not generally a good idea. Apple does a lot of work behind the scenes with each release, and so you tend to end up with limited functionality (fortunately Objective-C provides late binding, so you can actually do this) in applications acquired after the release of the new version.

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  9. Re:Serious question. by Richard_at_work · · Score: 3, Informative

    Theres no Intel version of the Family Pack, the included DVD is not Universal. Thus it can be argued that the licenses included dont extend to the Intel version, since that isnt the product included.

  10. Re:Well, by TheGreek · · Score: 3, Informative
    They do, dont they?
    No.

    There was a story last year about a student being caught releasing his ADC 10.4 developer seed, with it being tracked back to his ADC account and ultimately him.
    That's because he was retarded enough to upload it from the same host from which he downloaded it from ADC.
  11. Re:Garbage Collection in Objective C by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow... Slashdot is a "Nerd" site, but this is the first I've heard of this feature... where on slashdot is the feature list that is interesting to *developers*?

    I haven't seen a single consolidated list of all the features, but all of the features shown were aimed at developers, either as demonstrations of what the new APIs support or as features useful to developers. Time Machine, for example, was demoed as an API that can be built into a developer's apps. Other features you might have missed include a full port of DTrace from Solaris, built into the new X-ray profiling software, resolution independent UI, core graphics, quicktime, and core animation features, more parity between carbon and cocoa, a built in grammar checking service for all apps, RSS, multiple clipboards, improved python and ruby tools included, Apache 2, and default inclusion of Subversion.

    Most of the coverage on Slashdot has been for end-users, rather than developers, but there has been plenty of discussion elsewhere on development sites for industries using these elements. Heck, the DTrace message boards have been talking about little else for a week now.

  12. Re:Garbage Collection in Objective C by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not in the page renderer - Safari uses khtml, aka "konqueror", written in C++.

  13. Re:Serious question. by (startx) · · Score: 3, Informative

    Theres no Intel version of the Family Pack, the included DVD is not Universal.

    There's no Intel version of the single 10.4 box either. That's because every Intel Mac sold already comes with Tiger. Since the EULA says you can only run OS X on Apple branded hardware, they have no reason to sell x86 Tiger. All potential customers already have it.

    I'm sure the retail 10.5 boxes and family packs will include an x86 or universal version.

  14. Blame ATI and nVidia by metamatic · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're welcome to do raw OpenGL if you want. The problem is, developers want a nice easy way to (for example) draw a line of specified thickness from point (x1,y1) to point (x2,y2).

    OpenGL theoretically offers that, but in practice the drivers provided by the video card vendors are riddled with bugs. On some machines you get an antialiased line; on some you don't. On some machines you get a line of the correct width, on some the lines are always 1 pixel wide.

    So Apple does what they have to do. They build their own Core Graphics API which provides a call to draw an anti-aliased line of set thickness. Core Graphics then does whatever dicking around with quads and textures is necessary to implement that on top of the crappy driver code delivered by ATI and nVidia.

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  15. Re:Do they still have that upgrade program? by Teilo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um, wrong.

    I got an upgrade discount from Panther to Tiger. They were available when you purchased the upgrade online, simply by entering your registration info and your hardware's S/N.

    In fact, I even missed the purchase cut-off date by about 15 days. I still got the discount.

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  16. Re:Do they still have that upgrade program? by larkost · · Score: 2, Informative

    Every computer that is (legally/reliably) capable of running MacOS (X) already has a copy, so every MacOS X retail box is an upgrade. There is no "full" version like there is for Windows. But Apple does not put in the upgrade file checks to look for older versions so people get confused. $129 is the "upgrade" price.

  17. Re:Plan9 ideas by leoval · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is nice to see that Plan9 ideas keep flowing into mainstream OS's. Fossil+venti has been around for several years now (one of the best things of Plan9 btw).

  18. Re:Serious question. by dr.badass · · Score: 2, Informative

    One "family pack" copy of OS X is purchased, and the remaining 4 licenses are sold off to people on the Internet (who are given an image of the CD.)

    "* Family Pack Software License Agreement allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-labeled computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household and used by persons who occupy that same household. By "household" we mean a person or persons who share the same housing unit such as a home, apartment, mobile home or condominium, but shall also extend to student members who are primary residents of that household but residing at a separate on-campus location. This license does not extend to business or commercial users."

    It isn't "five Mac OS X licenses", it's one license for five computers.

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  19. Re:There Is Only One Thing I Want... by kylearin · · Score: 2, Informative

    VMware has announced an upcoming beta of their MacOS product. Maybe it will be faster? http://www.vmware.com/news/releases/mac.html