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Did Humans Evolve? No, Say Americans

Stern Thinker writes "In a 2005 poll covering 33 countries, Americans are the least likely (except for Turkish respondents) to assert that 'humans developed ... from earlier species of animals.' Iceland, meanwhile, has an 85% acceptance rating for evolution." The blurb on the site for Science magazine is less circumspect about the findings: "The acceptance of evolution is lower in the United States than in Japan or Europe, largely because of widespread fundamentalism and the politicization of science in the United States."

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  1. Well, that one is junk science by krell · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "We don't believe in global warming"

    That particular one, unlike the others, is junk "science".

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  2. Bad example. by krell · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "but 50% still believe we found WMDs in Iraq"

    Actually, more than 500 have been found (each one being of the type the inspectors were looking for prior to the US invasion, each one specifically prohibited by the various agreements and resolutions in the wake of the first Gulf War, each one containing the prohibited WMD materials, each one still dangerous even if degraded and partially diminished over time, each one that was supposed to have been declared and logged prior to the US invasion...and each one proving "No WMD in Iraq" as a complete lie). Given the facts, it should be 100% who believe this.

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  3. Dishonest NYT by amightywind · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The NYT publishes a news story that backhandedly casts the Bush Administration in a bad light. Shocking! What shall we say about their evolution from respected newspaper to leftist shill?

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  4. Re:such criticisms... by aussersterne · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Christian = stupid
    Conservative = stupid
    Fundamentalist = stupid
    Religious = stupid

    Christian = evil
    Conservative = evil
    Fundamentalist = evil
    Religious = evil

    Very simple, with mounds and mounts of historical evidence dating back millenia. If god exists, he is a murdering tyrant child rapist. If god does not exist, Christians, conservatives, fundamentalists, and religious people are murdering tyrant child rapists.

    Either way, nobody should worship god.

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  5. Re:Shocking by discord5 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It says, 85% believes in evolution. The other 15% just don't care.

  6. Re:Whodunnit? by DerProfi · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The religious right is closely allied to the Republican Party.
    Hmmmmmm, you think that's why nobody calls them the religious left?

    There has never been a war on Christianity in this country, but militant people professing Christianity will take us there.
    Militant people professing religion I will grant you. But if you take a quick look around at the problem spots of the world it seems clear that the vast majority of the troublemakers certainly aren't Christians.

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  7. Your attitude is part of the problem by Ogemaniac · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Science is also a faith, with its own set of unprovable assumptions about the world.

    Our faith may be more practical than that of religious fundamentalists, but when you start tossing around words like "ill-founded" and pretending that your faith in science is not a faith and therefore superior, your arguments fall upon deaf ears.

    If you don't know off the top of your head what some of the assumptions of science are, your faith is more blind (and therefore more dangerous) than that of the fundamentalists.

  8. Re:Threats to Faith by EllisDees · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'll go one worse - Jesus worship is idolatry.

    "I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

    Putting Jesus ahead of God certainly sounds like a violation of Commandment Numero Uno to me! Of course now I'll get the excuse "but Jesus *is* God!" or some such nonsense.

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  9. Re:The Perceived Threat of Science by arminw · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ....Intelligent Design must be taken on faith....

    Much of what we do is based on faith. When you get on an airplane, you take on faith that the DESIGNERS and builders thereof did their math correctly and made a reasonably safe airplane. When you take an elevator, you have faith that the cables will carry the load. You don't KNOW that they will, but have faith that the builders were reasonable and did the right thing. When you get in your car, you have faith that others, whom you have never met, will stop for the red light etc.

    Why then is it not also reasonable that there is a designer that made your eyes, a device more complex and versatile than the most advanced camera? Why is it termed to be unreasonable that someone came up with all the complex, interacting laws and relationships we observe, called the laws of physics. These have been observed to apply to the most distant objects and places equally. If evolution were true and there is not just one designer, why should a chance process not involving ONE mind make these rules the same in the entire universe?

    To me it is much more unreasonable to attribute human creations to design and the more complex "natural" creation to chance or other processes not involving the activity of a mind. All design implies a designer, natural or manmade.

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  10. Re:The Perceived Threat of Science by mrchaotica · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    It is entirely possible for a scientists to be a zealot, i.e. to adopt extreme ideology or become a fanatical partisan.

    But when a person does that, he ceases to be a scientist.

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  11. Re:Not quite.... by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Ha ha, you fell for the fake "Bush Mars mission" designed to get science believers to quiet down their skepticism about Bush Sr in an election year. Bush Sr pulled the same thing, but Americans weren't as gullible then.

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