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Catan on Live, PopCap on Steam

Two interesting bits of news on the casual gaming front today. GI.biz reports that PopCap games has signed a deal with Valve to have their games offered on Steam. The casual Xbox Live Arcade will also be getting some new visitors, though of a much more hard-core variety. Classic German boardgame Settlers of Catan will headline a trio of titles for Microsoft's downloadable games service, Gamespot reports. From that article: "Outpost Kaloki X is about to have some genre company on Xbox Live Arcade, as all three titles will call on strategic thinking from the players. The announced games include the civilization-building Settlers of Catan, the tile-based city-building game Carcassonne, and the Arabian-themed stock-market game Alhambra set to be available through the Xbox."

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  1. Great... by An+Ominous+Cow+Erred · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...now we get to hear "WOOD FOR SHEEP!!" live over the network.

    1. Re:Great... by gbobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

      My ex-girlfriend used to yell out "SHEEPIES!!" every time sheep were involved while playing the game at various Mensa gatherings.

      I can't wait to hear "SHEEPIES!!" live over the network.

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    2. Re:Great... by cthellis · · Score: 3, Funny

      I got TWO WOOD for your sheep!

    3. Re:Great... by TempeTerra · · Score: 2, Informative

      The primary mode of gameplay in Settlers of Catan is to acquire and trade resource cards, and use them to build your settlement. Canonically, the resources are lumber, wool, grain, bricks and ore but are often referred to by more common names such as trees, sheep and wheat.

      "Wood for sheep" would probably be an offer to give sheep cards in exchange for wood cards (although from the wording it could be either way) - something which has almost NO chance of success in the early game where sheep are almost entirely useless and wood is very valuable, and yet seems likely to be a frequent utterance from random clueless noobs on Xbox Live. Oh they joy of voice chat ;)

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    4. Re:Great... by whm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This whole thread is sort of like Al Gore explaining Santa Claus...

  2. Do they know what they're getting into? by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Steam/Valve isn't exactly associated with 'casual' gaming, what does PopCap have to gain from this deal? Red Orchestra and CS:Source aren't games you associate with alongside Bejeweled and Bookworm.

    1. Re:Do they know what they're getting into? by Bieeanda · · Score: 4, Insightful
      They could be a good excuse for more people to leave the Steam launcher sitting in the task tray, especially since they've finally got Steam's IM functions working again. Right-click the icon, pop the games launcher open almost instantly, and play a bit of Chuzzle. If someone you know wants to drag you into a CS match, you can switch over with ease.

      Steam is associated with shooters and action games right now, but there's no reason why it has to stay that way. Its distribution system would be ideal for Popcap, because their games are small enough to download fairly quickly on dialup, and all of the authorizations are stored on the server side. Go over to a friend's place (or work) and download the Steam client, then download the games you've already purchased licenses for. Popcap doesn't have to worry about mailing media out, or people passing installer discs around to their friends, which saves on expenses.

      The two services' pricing structures are already rather close. There are several expansions, episodes and mods available for less than a twenty, which is the same general range that Popcap games fall into. Near-instant gratification for a fairly low price is a very good way to separate people from their money.

    2. Re:Do they know what they're getting into? by AcidLacedPenguiN · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Interesting. I find I've been playing through the steam games quite often now, especially the non-shooter ones. I've always been fond of the Jagged Alliance series, and I figure with enough positive reaction on steam it might force whoever owns the IP to finally finish up that Jagged Alliance 3. I think Steam's biggest issue to overcome now is advertising. Right now they have plenty of games for sale but except for the occasional slashdot story, if you don't already have steam you'd never know what they have to offer!

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  3. Free Versions for Online Computer Play by Misanthrope · · Score: 3, Informative

    There have been a variety of open source implementations of Settlers for
    a while. Pioneers is my current favorite.
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/pio

  4. Re:Settlers of Catan by legoburner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Being a fan of Catan (dead-tree version), I hope they make something very similar. The PC versions that I have played so far are not as fun as the real thing but I think that is down to 2 things:
    1. Tactile response ... being able to move the theif and push him right into that 6 wheat producing hex
    2. Communication ... getting those trades announced with the right tone in your voice.

    Thankfully I think the xbox 360 version will take care of #2. Though now I cant help but imagine trash-talking catan players which would be a bit odd. Still, adds to the temptation to get an xbox 360.

  5. BrettSpielWelt by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 4, Informative

    You want to play modern board games online? Go to BrettSpielWelt. Free, online playing of over a hundred boardgames. Not only Settlers of Catan and Carcassonne, but also Caylus, Citadels, Medina, Power Grid, Princes of Florence, Puerto Rico, Ra, San Juan, and many, many, many more. The language to use is English at most of the site. Warning: there are many very strong players there, so prepare for a humiliating defeat at your favorite game.

  6. Settlers of Catan online for computers by snuf23 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The good news: There is a version of Settlers of Catan for the computer!
    The bad news part 1: It's for Windows only.
    The bad news part 2: It requires that you use Internet Explorer to play the online version.
    The bad news part 3: You need to create a MS Passport account to play (or have a hotmail account).
    The bad news part 4: Playing online requires a subscription of $4.95/month or $19.99/year.

    Anyway if you are interested check out at Catan Online.

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    1. Re:Settlers of Catan online for computers by Shambhu · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or this one. It's free and has several rule sets, lots of prebuilt maps and user-built maps. It's written in Java, you can play with whoever is logged in (usually 100 or so, atm) or with bots or with both. The interface is pretty good, although the server goes down from time to time. In fact, it's probably going to get hosed if people here are that interested in it. Don't forget to donate!

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    2. Re:Settlers of Catan online for computers by DanloRingess · · Score: 4, Informative
      Or take a look at http://www.brettspielwelt.de/?nation=en/.

      The good news part 1: In addition to Settlers of Catan, you can play 62 other games.

      The good news part 2: There is a web client so that you can play on virtually any platform.

      The good news part 3: There are platform specific clients for Windows, Mac, and Linux so that you can have a better UI than in the web client.

      The good news part 4: It's all free.

  7. Mod Parent up! by trip11 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    BSW really is a great place to play strategy games online. Not only that, it is a good place to try out a game and see if you like it before spending $40 on something awful at the store. The only downside is that it can be a bit intimidating and un-intuitive to someone new to the system. Esp if you don't speak German. However there is a great website for all of us english speakers to help get the feel of the game.
    http://englishtown.brettspielwelt.info/
    I would also recomend downloading the client and not playing in the browser. It's java based and mulit-platform. Plus if you get the client, the english town website has an english config file for it which translates all of the controls for you. Best of all it is entirely free and litterally filled with players so you can play any time you like.

  8. But what about the beer? by cheapskate · · Score: 2, Funny

    Boardgames are no fun without the risk of spilling drinks over them. How else can you make a poor man's version of the seafarers of catan?

  9. Great game by LarsWestergren · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to play it without having to shell out for a console, there is a open source java version here.

    Best way to play it though is of course around a table with some good friends.

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  10. Free Catan online for everybody by Valdrax · · Score: 3, Informative

    Go to jsettlers.com.

    The good news: There is a version of Settlers of Catan for the computer!
    The good news 2: It's written for Java 1.1.8 and works for everybody.
    The good news 3: It works in any Java-supporting browser.
    The good news 4: You don't need any account anywhere to play.
    The good news 5: It's completely free.

    It also has a decent, if human-hating. AI. Most people will be playing solo against 3 computer opponents, and those that do want to play against humans will often insist on FNT (fast, no-trade) games.

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  11. Alhambra a stock market game? by hibiki_r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The gamespot editor seems to care very little about boardgames. You can call Alhambra many things, but it is NOT a stock market game. Its theme is palace building, and the main mechanics are tile placement and set collection. I mean, in which stock market do you try to arrange your 'shares' to build the largest wall?

    Oh, and Alhambra is located in Granada, Spain. Sure, it was built by muslims, but it's not what I'd call arabian.

  12. Never in a million years... by The-Bus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    would I have imagined that this game would come to Xbox Live. Furthermore, outside of Slashdot (and even here), there's going to be a huge amount of people who are going to say... "What?"

    I know it's de rigueur to mention "The Long Tail", but this is a great example of it; the Long Tail is a theory that in the future, businesses will need to sell small amounts of a huge variety.

    Ideally, Catan fever will spread worldwide to a brand new audience. But also, putting a game like this on a console really sets it apart to big Catan fans. Xbox Live Arcade has the possibility to do that by releasing niche games that the target audience really wants. I loathe anecdotal evidence, but I know of two people that have bought an Xbox simply for one of the arcade games (Geometry Wars and Street Fighter).

    Microsoft does seem to be serious about this. At Leipzig they also announced that they will "own football" by making Pro Evolution Soccer 6 and FIFA 07 Xbox 360 exclusives. Sony's own Winning Eleven series is of course not affected.

    Now, if they'd only give Europe what they really want: fairly priced hardware and software.

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    1. Re:Never in a million years... by Maffyew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Winning Eleven and Pro Evolution Soccer are exactly the same series, just given different names in different locales.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer