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The Mystery of Oregon's 'Dead Zone'

Roland Piquepaille writes "The area off Cape Perpetua on the central Oregon coast is now a gigantic crab and fish graveyard. It was first discovered in 2002, but according to the Christian Science Monitor, researchers at Oregon State University (OSU) have taken a close-up look into this coastal dead zone. And things are getting worse. A few weeks ago, the researchers measured the level of dissolved oxygen in this part of the ocean. They found that levels were 10 to 30 times lower than normal, down to 0.5 milliliters per liter, a characteristic of hypoxia. And because they have no explanations about this phenomenon, they're even envisioning a total absence of oxygen, or anoxia. Read more for additional details and pictures about this mystery."

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  1. No explanation? by broothal · · Score: 4, Informative

    " And because they have no explanations about this phenomenon..."

    Let me help them out here a bit then. The Oregon zone appears when the wind generates strong currents carrying nutrient-rich but oxygen-poor water from the deep sea to the surface near shore, a process called upwelling. The nutrients encourage the growth of plankton, which eventually dies and falls to the ocean floor. Bacteria there consume the plankton, using up oxygen.

    No - I'm not so smart that I knew the answer, but google did - first (and several more) hit.

    1. Re:No explanation? by CloudsSpaz · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't want to seem like I actually read the source article, and maybe I have the wrong definition of explanation, but it seems like "the culprit may be global warming."

    2. Re:No explanation? by drawfour · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Right, because scientists in the field of study who are stumped couldn't possibly have already looked into that and discounted it? You Google'd it, that suddenly means you have all the knowledge to tell the experts what is going on?

      Right...

    3. Re:No explanation? by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I recently moved a few thousand kilometers westward and a Chinook Arch looks quite ominous and threatening to those that haven't seen it before. It's just nature, though. I always find it amusing when eco-types freak out and fret over what are natural earth processes.

      The sky is not falling, despite what the linked image above might indicate.

    4. Re:No explanation? by evilviper · · Score: 2, Funny
      I always find it amusing when eco-types freak out and fret over what are natural earth processes.

      Like urinating on a bald eagle...

      It's perfectly natural, guys.
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    5. Re:No explanation? by nacturation · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's clearly yet another picture of the Nexus. You can't fool us with this Chinook nonsense.

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    6. Re:No explanation? by tigheig · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yes. It was discussed. Starting in the fifth paragraph of the linked article.

      Follow the link, it's a good article.

    7. Re:No explanation? by enharmonix · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hmm, we've been dealing with this in the Gulf for a while. It's recurrant - it goes away, then comes back the next year, and is caused by too much algae, which is basically fed by nitrogen rich runoff from ground water. IIRC, though, wind actually helps by mixing the water, so global warming shouldn't really enter into this picture. Not to say the article didn't quote somebody saying that, or that different climates won't affect things, but that's just what I heard. For anybody interested, there's a pretty scientific assessment of the phenomenon (in the gulf at least) here (I don't think anybody's linked to this yet, apologies if this is a dupe). Anyway, don't panic, Oregonians, you'll survive! Cheers.

    8. Re:No explanation? by The_Wilschon · · Score: 2, Insightful
      maybe I have the wrong definition of explanation
      Yep. In order for "the culprit may be global warming" to qualify as an explanation, you'd have to detail just how you think global warming would have anything to do with this.
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    9. Re:No explanation? by Max+Threshold · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Sadly, many (if not most) professional scientists these days are nothing but bumbling idiots chasing after research grants, repeating one another's experiments and research not for verification, but to pass them off as original.

      In an environment of such poor scientific integrity, there's nothing wrong with a layperson hitting the books and forming their own theories. They're probably just as good as any so-called expert's.

    10. Re:No explanation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Y'know, maybe you should just read TFA, where this explaination is given:

      To be sure, the jury is still out on that connection, says Jane Lubchenco, a marine zoologist at Oregon State University who is heading up this day-long expedition. But, she adds, what she and her colleagues see is consistent with projections of global warming's effects on coastal winds in the spring and summer, which drive upwelling of nutrient-laden water.

      These effects - identified as early as 1990 by researcher Andrew Bakun, then with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's fisheries lab in Monterey, Calif. - turbocharge the upwelling. This overloads the waters with nutrients and spawns large algae blooms. The algae sink, die, and decompose, in a process that sucks oxygen out of the water and the topmost layer of sediment on the bottom, where many worms and shellfish live.


      Hey, that's exactly what the OP said!

    11. Re:No explanation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yep. In order for "the culprit may be global warming" to qualify as an explanation, you'd have to detail just how you think global warming would have anything to do with this.

      Well Mr. SmartyPants, think about it.

      Have you seen any large wooden ships in the area? Seen any flags with skull and crossbones? Huh? Have you?

      Still don't see it? Man, some scientist you'd make...

      No drunken songs heard in the night? No parrots? Eyepatches?

      Good God man, it's the PIRATES! There aren't any in the area, and haven't been for a while. It's scientific fact: the absence of pirates leads to global warming.

      Don't pretend they didn't teach you this in school.

      We need a *massive* pirate infusion here. I mean, invite them from madagascar or something. Just get enough pirates in there to balance the ecosystem.

      I've sent this proposal to the President many times, and he's never even given me the decency of a reply. I'm heading to the White House this weekend and getting right up on his lawn with my bullhorn so he can see me. To drive my point home, I'm going to wave a shotgun around while I say it. This will really help me get my message across.

    12. Re:No explanation? by kimvette · · Score: 2, Funny
      These effects - identified as early as 1990 by researcher Andrew Bakun, then with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's fisheries lab in Monterey, Calif. - turbocharge the upwelling. This overloads the waters with nutrients and spawns large algae blooms.


      Question: where did they install the turbochargers? If the problem is warming, may I suggest installing some intercoolers? just a thought. ;)
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    13. Re:No explanation? by Luminus · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Atlanta Journal-Constitution had an article (google cache if needed) about georgia's dead zone about two weeks ago,
      and claimed that the solution in this case was actually quite obvious:

      Verity and other scientists who have researched similar changes worldwide say they can sum up the cause in a single word: people.

      As more homes, condominiums, marinas and businesses are built on the coast, pollution increases in tidal creeks and estuaries. Treated sewage discharges and storm water runoff carry fertilizers from lawns, golf courses and farms and oil and other pollutants from pavement and rooftops.

      "We need to stop what we're doing now and either mitigate or reduce [the impacts] because we're going downhill in a hurry," Verity said.

      ---------------
      Other bits of the article follow....

      For 20 years, a scientist near Savannah has taken weekly water samples from the same dock, giving him a composite snapshot of the estuary's health.
      Pieced together, the view goes from good to fair and getting worse. Peter Verity's data tells him the estuary --- where rivers wrestle with the sea --- is in trouble.
      Dissolved oxygen, the breath of life for shrimp, blue crabs, oysters and fish, is declining at an alarming rate. Within 10 years, Verity, a professor at the Skidaway Institute of Oceanography, predicts there won't be enough left for the sea life we love to eat. Those creatures will be replaced by jellyfish, which don't need as much dissolved oxygen and feed on the type of organisms that grow in a polluted estuary, he says.

      Verity's already witnessed change. Between 1987 and 2000, his sampling showed a 70 percent increase in jellyfish.

      Verity and other scientists who have researched similar changes worldwide say they can sum up the cause in a single word: people.

      As more homes, condominiums, marinas and businesses are built on the coast, pollution increases in tidal creeks and estuaries. Treated sewage discharges and storm water runoff carry fertilizers from lawns, golf courses and farms and oil and other pollutants from pavement and rooftops.

      "We need to stop what we're doing now and either mitigate or reduce [the impacts] because we're going downhill in a hurry," Verity said.

      Verity presented his dissolved oxygen research in June at an international conference of his peers and published it this month in an academic journal, Estuaries and Coasts. His bottom line: Georgia's bays and inlets, lined with tidal marshes now teeming with infant and juvenile sea life, is headed toward hypoxia, a dead zone incapable of supporting shellfish and fish.

      Hypoxia is already severe at times in the Gulf of Mexico off the Louisiana coast and in the Chesapeake Bay near Washington. An associated problem, harmful algae blooms that release fish-killing toxins, has affected virtually every coastal state, threatening human health and dealing economic blows to seafood industries worldwide.

  2. Hi, my name is Lizzy Faire by Travoltus · · Score: 5, Funny

    If those fish that are dying out there aren't worth protection under the free market, then they aren't worthy of survival.

    Things that are truly important to humanity's survival will be preserved by market forces. Which means someone like Outback Steakhouse will take a genuine interest in their survival and will spend the money to stop these dead zones and prevent hypoxia/anoxia from happening.

    If you really want to save the fish off of Oregon's coast, then put them on the menu.

    [end right wing parody]

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    1. Re:Hi, my name is Lizzy Faire by E++99 · · Score: 3, Funny

      President Bush Lied! Thousands of Fish Died!

      But we will never know for absolutely certain the cause of the hypoxia until Al Gore or Michael Moore make a movie about it. That being said, anyone not completely stupid, that is, anyone who watches CNN instead of FoxNews, knows that the CONSTITUTION SAYS that the Republicans killed all those poor fish. And they didn't even use all their parts, like the Indians would have done. They only killed them for their fur, the fascists.

      [end left wing parody]

  3. Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by cperciva · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quoth the summary:
    They found that levels [of dissolved oxygen] were 10 to 30 times lower than normal, down to 0.5 milliliters per liter, a characteristic of hypoxia.

    In other news, having low levels of dissolved glucose in the bloodstream is a characteristic of hypoglycaemia; having lots of money is a characteristic of being rich; and a complete cessation of brain function is a characteristic of death.

    1. Re:Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by MosesJones · · Score: 3, Funny

      and a complete cessation of brain function is a characteristic of death

      I thought it was a characteristic of a MySpace user? Or becoming US Defence Secretary.

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    2. Re:Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by RsG · · Score: 4, Funny
      complete cessation of brain function is a characteristic of death.
      No, it's a sign you're destined for a career in politics :-)
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    3. Re:Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by SethJohnson · · Score: 5, Insightful



      Welcome to a successful Roland Piquepaille slashdot bait. He's a master of re-explaining the basic. In this case, he's speaking down to the reader from his intellectual pulpit.

      Seth

    4. Re:Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by legoburner · · Score: 4, Insightful
      a complete cessation of brain function is a characteristic of death.


      Try reading this site at -1 and you'll soon change this theory!
    5. Re:Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, /. just has a higher than average population of zombie users.

    6. Re:Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by bitt3n · · Score: 3, Funny
      Try reading this site at -1 and you'll soon change this theory!

      oh they're dead all right... what better place for a zombie than where everyone has big brains and can't run more than ten feet without getting winded?

    7. Re:Hypoxia is a characteristic of hypoxia? by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Funny
      and a complete cessation of brain function is a characteristic of death

      I thought it was a characteristic of a MySpace user? Or becoming US Defence Secretary.

      Why the rip on myspace users? They may not have our informed, moderated sci/tech discussion, but they do have girls there.
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  4. volcanism by wikinerd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Could this be a result of imminent or undergoing volcanism? Perhaps a volcano is about to form or explode in the near future in the Oregon-Washington region and unleashes poisonous gasses in the sea water before unleashing its lava.

  5. Gigantic crab by booch · · Score: 4, Funny

    a gigantic crab and fish graveyard

    I'd like to know more about these gigantic crab. Are they bigger than king crab? I love to eat crab legs.

    What? You mean that it's the graveyard that's gigantic? Damn you, ambiguous English language!

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    1. Re:Gigantic crab by Mekabyte · · Score: 4, Funny

      Try to hit its weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

    2. Re:Gigantic crab by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 5, Funny

      I remember an advert for an insecticide that 'kills cockroaches for up to 90 days'. I wouldn't look forward to that army of zombie cockroaches coming after me when they come back to life in three months ...

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  6. volcanic ridge/rift, most likely by nido · · Score: 3, Informative

    I guess it's called the Juan de Fuca Ridge.

    This dead zone is "most likely caused by underwater volcanism along the Juan De Fuca Ridge, which is about 20% volcanic along its 500 mile length. Occassional volcanic eruptions occur along the Ridge (Rift) which can create gigantic megaplumes of hot mineral water. Could be there is very little oxygen in the plumes, it most likely would have reacted with the minerals, leaving dissolved oxygen at nil."

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  7. How did these gigantic crabs die? by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Presumably someone attacked their weakpoint (needing oxygen) with massive damage (a lack of it). I love how games help us learn!

  8. Wording by XanC · · Score: 3

    "10 to 30 times lower." What exactly does this mean? One can only guess it means 1/10th to 1/30th of the norm, but I would think a professional writer would use more precise wording...

  9. CSM or ZDNET - Which is it? by mdm42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the article references the Christian Science Monitor, why the hell is the link to some linkjack blog at ZDNET?

    Surely the original article (at CSM) should be the one linked, and not to some warmed-over plagiarised rehash at ZDNet? Do the /. editorship actually bother to check any of this?

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  10. Re:USA IS IGNORANT! by DrSkwid · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lets not forget that China & India are also not signees.

    Thus the three most populous continents on earth are simply not concerned.

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  11. Re:It is the same with the Baltic sea. by Yazeran · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, but in the case of the Baltic, there is a natural bias towards a no-oxygen situation.

    In the baltic we have a higher salt concentration in the bottom parts than nearer the surface (due to water runoff through all the rivers which empty out i the baltic). At the same time, the mouth of the baltic (e.g. the Danish straits) are shallow, usually only alloowing te surface water to freely exchange with the North sea (and hence the Atlantic). In most cases there is a weak outgowing current in the danish straits and only in special weather situations do salt and oxygen containing water enter the baltic.
    The weather situations which may pump salt and oxygen into the baltic is large storms from the right direction and i recal readig that it is only about once every 2-3 years that that happens that significant amounts of salt water enters the deep parts of the baltic.

    This phenomena (heavy salt rich water at the bottom, salt poor water at the surface) is also the same which makes the danish fjords vulnarable to hypoxia or anoxia (and incidently makes them nearly ideal for small submarines to operate in as a surface ship has no chance of hearing them through the thermo/hyalocline before they are close enough to launch torpedoes, which was the reason why the soviets took the danish navy serious durring the cold war).

    There is alos other places where the geometry of the water basin results in natural anoxia (the black sea is i believe the largest). Similarly, in the geologic past, large costal water basins have been anoxic (as there is now oil there), so anoxic conditions is not by themselves some man made phenomena. It may be man made in the case in Oregon and in the case of the baltic, it surely does not help dumping all the polution from the rivers..

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  12. No mystery - Polution by PietjeJantje · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the article:

    "This overloads the waters with nutrients and spawns large algae blooms. The algae sink, die, and decompose, in a process that sucks oxygen out of the water and the topmost layer of sediment on the bottom, where many worms and shellfish live."

    Fosfate/nitrate (among others) --> Nutritions for algae --> No oxygen

    The "mystery" is where the polution is coming from.

    1. Re:No mystery - Polution by canuck57 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "mystery" is where the polution is coming from.

      It is also possible the whales, or lack of them play a part. Would say 500 missing whales eat a lot of plankton and algae? This would mean there would not be as much to fall and rot.

      Maybe oil from Alaska leaking from old rusty tankers.

      Maybe someone saved some disposal costs and dropped in 50 barrels of toxic waste.

      I have seen this on interior freshwater lakes where in 1968 the water was clear, fresh and loaded with large and small fish. In 1998 I was back to the same lake in the same place, the loads of algae made it like a slime bog and the fish were scrawny, few and small. The mine shut down in 1996 and some heavy fine laws on human waste going into the lake was enforced and the lake appears to be slowly coming back.

      Probably a combination of factors, but mankind is behind most.

  13. Re:USA IS IGNORANT! by mark99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's always easy to blame the US for anything bad. It obviates the necessity of thinking things through.

    Not that the USA is blame free, far from it. But I am amazed at what they get blamed for these days.

  14. Oh Come On by viewtouch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Informative, 5 ?

    I live real close to this area, am on vacation in Lincoln City at the moment, and I'd like to say that when they say they have no explanations about this phenomenon you should not take that to mean that the annual upwelling of cold water from the bottom just off the continental shelf here is either news to anybody here or is a satisfactory explanation for what is going on here.

    By the way, the part about the wind generating these currents, or currents anywhere, is wrong. Currents are generated by a combination of the earth's rotation, the uneven solar heating of the earth's surface and the underwater topologies of the world's oceans. Wind is better thought of as the atmospheric currents and the ocean current patterns clearly do NOT overlap the atmospheric currents.

    OK, now, with that out of the way, the point is, nobody yet knows why everything is dead out there. Not you, Not Google, Not me, Not anybody - yet.

  15. My scientific explaination... by H3g3m0n · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cthulhu

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  16. Re:USA IS IGNORANT! by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Erm. China and India aren't continents, nor is the United States of America. Also the US is not one of the most populous, I believe that the EU as a whole has almost double the population of the US.

  17. Re:CSM or ZDNET - Which is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is nothing new. Roland Piquepaille has been submitting stories which invariably link to his own blog (which carries a pale imitaiton of the original article) for ages. There have been accusations that he is paying the slashdot editors for the service of publishing his stories. See http://www.google.com/search?q=roland.piquepaille+ site:Slashdot.org.

  18. My Aquarium by Coppit · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's nice to see that even mother nature's aquarium sometimes ends up looking like every aquarium I've ever owned.

  19. Re:People by Ant+P. · · Score: 4, Funny

    You may find this diagram helpful:

    Joke ---> .

              O
    You -->  -|-
             / \

  20. Re:CSM or ZDNET - Which is it? by dublain · · Score: 2, Informative

    Both. The first link is to CSM. The next link is to ZD providing additional information, as the link says. Mebbe lay off the coffee/stimulants and try to be a bit less indignant and accusatory. Bitching isn't commenting. And someone modded it 5 - insightful?

  21. Popular Culprit? by C0y0t3 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... Here, as in a handful of other coastal regions worldwide, the culprit may be global warming.
    To be sure, the jury is still out on that connection, says Jane Lubchenco, a marine zoologist at Oregon State University who is heading up this day-long expedition....


    This type of premature conclusion is, I believe, very damaging to those who want to have global warming taken seriously by the mainstream public (ie. Me). Leaping to the popular conclusion with no reason other than it being popular to blame frankly makes me doubt the professionalism of the researchers involved.

    Maybe it's the over-logging in Oregon depleting the oxygen levels ("hypoxia" was the Word of the Day May 24th, 2004), or the number of $evil_utility_or_commercial_industry dumping toxic waste into the ocean, or perhaps if the media sweetheart "global warming" doesn't pan out, they can pin it on Saddam Hussein^d^d^d^d^d^d^d^d^d^d Bin Laden^d^d^d^d^d^d^d^d^d Iran's President whatsis name.

    Whoever they are, we need to identify the culprit(s) and bring these godless killers to justice. Oh, wait, unless of course its us... in which case, market forces are sure to cause a "correction" in the system and all will be well on Wall Street once more.

    Tim
  22. It's just Roland the Plogger screwing up again by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's just a link to a Roland the Plogger blog, who doesn't understand the problem. Read the New York Times story, which has important facts the Plogger missed, like the fact that this has been happening for the past five years. The local paper, the Register-Guard, has a good story. "On the way down, the camera lens illuminates a nighttime blizzard, a flurry of broken chunks of plankton called "marine snow." This is evidence of what caused this year's hypoxia - an onslaught of nutrients brought to shallow coastal waters by wind-driven currents, whose decomposing structures suck up available oxygen."

    This is no mysterious dramatic event. It happens every year, but this year, it's worse than usual, possibly because ocean currents have shifted due to weather.

  23. dead zones by falconwolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hmm, we've been dealing with this in the Gulf for a while. It's recurrant - it goes away, then comes back the next year, and is caused by too much algae, which is basically fed by nitrogen rich runoff from ground water.

    The same thing happens between Cape Cod and Cape Hatteras and it's believed runoff from the factory farming of pigs may be responsible. Something I've been wondering about is runoff is responsible for the dead zone in the Gulf and it's harming fishermen out of New Orleans and other towns why don't they get together and sue the farmers upstream.

    Falcon
  24. fertilizer by falconwolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    . I don't think anybody's going to hold a farm responsible for polluting the environment because they used manure for fertilizer, and the only difference between chemical fertilizers and manure is that the cheaper version is made of feces.

    Actually I think that can be part of the solution. From what I understand most of the feces from the pig farms are either dumped or buried, though some gets swept away into waterways with rain. Allowing the feces to compost though it can then be used for fertilizer then chemical fertilizers wouldn't need to be used so much. Also if they were allowed freerange, they could so in one location or field one year then moved to another the following year. The second year a covercrop could be sown, then the third grains or vegetables can be growth on it, without needing more fertilizers. Actually this is how some organic farms operate but the big agrobusiness farms would probably frown on it.

    Falcon
    1. Re:fertilizer by mdarksbane · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, organic methods of farming work great as long as you have the traditional methods to handle the actual food needs of the general population.

      Most of the methods used by agro-business are employed because they increase productivity. Because of this the US produces enough food to feed most of the world. Going back to methods a few hundred years old, on a large scale, would probably have some nasty consequences that most people don't think about.

      Now, what we need to do is find something better to do with all the pig crap that is accumulated. I know that for cows there has been some pretty nice research into using the methane rising from pits of manure as an eletricity source.

      The general problem is just that there is a ton of pigs, and no management system for dealing with their waste. Even when you reuse it for fertilizer, at the first rain a large portion of it will wash off into the local river system. Finding a nice way to manage and process that that doesn't completely bankrupt the farmers would be a good step for the environment, rather than saying they have to switch over their whole farming method to being half as productive and catering to the elite who can afford to care how their pigs were raised.