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Official WoW Expansion Talent Information

smartidiotaz writes "Blizzard has finally released more information about the talent trees after leaks broke out over the internet. " As typical, every class thinks every other class got a better deal, but the Pallies get to mean it ;)

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  1. Why Are People Still Playing WoW? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Serious question, not a slam.

    I played through the 1-60 level grind on my free month, battlegrounds seemed a joke with the wait times, and WoW raiding doesn't seem very interesting(at least IMO compared to EQ raiding a few years ago).

    I know a lot of MMORPG players and not one of them are still playing WoW - which is strange because the sampling of the people I know has pretty well tracked player populations for every previous MMORPG over the past six to seven years I've been playing them.

    Where are all these WoW players and what are they doing while they are logged in all these months since the game went live?

    1. Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? by AstrumPreliator · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Why Are People Still Playing WoW?"

      Maybe they're not still playing it so much as they just started playing it? I picked the game up in July as I had no interest in playing it before then (I'm not a large MMO fan). But a friend who recently bought a new computer that could run WoW bought it so I did.

      I'm sure there are still players that have been playing since the very beginning but I doubt they're the majority. I'm sure most of the people playing are either those who didn't buy the game until just recently or those who put it down for several months or longer and have decided to pick it back up again.

    2. Re:Why Are People Still Playing WoW? by ZombieWomble · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A word of warning to add to this though: This is highly dependant on the realms your server is grouped with, and the faction you play. I know, on my old server, the Alliance are up in arms because their BG queues have skyrocketed, as they were grouped with a number of realms with tiny Horde populations. Conversely, on my present server, any time of the day or night, you can pick a battleground and get in instantly as a Horde character.

  2. Re:Horde Paladin? by Kesch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's ver simple really. The Blood Elves are a kickass race. When a kickass race wants divine power, they don't ask for it; they just take it. In the Blood Elves' case, they made a Naru(being of light) into their bitch and their paladins tap into divine energy siphoned from it.

    So blood elf paladins' holy power does not come with any EULA saying they have to have a +5 stick of morality up their ass.

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  3. Re:Horde Paladin? by thesandtiger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Aside from the "lore" explanations given by the other poster, putting paladin-like (they're "Blood Knights" dontcha know!) characters on the Horde side and shaman characters on the Alliance side is supposedly allowing the designers to make MUCH more interesting instance encounters. Since they no longer have to worry about factional differences, they can implement ideas they had that would require certain classes etc.

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  4. Re:Because you never played the game. by snuf23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Same here. Played for about 10 months. One level 60 character, a 43 and assorted alts in the 20s and 30s. I wasn't into high end raiding and PVP was time consuming. I got bored and the little irritating things started to bug me more and more. Needing to tweak my interface and macros for every patch, having to wait in a queue to login, having to wait in a queue to get in battlegrounds, having to wait an hour or more to get a raid group together.
    I really enjoyed the game but I didn't see any point in continuing to play as I couldn't find anything to do where the fun outweighed the annoyance.

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  5. Re:Horde Paladin? by alexgieg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I beg to differ. While the Horde isn't clearly Evil, it's nonetheless slightly "more evil" than the Alliance.

    Take the Orcs, for example: they allowed themselves to be near completely corrupted by demonic powers. They are now free from this corruption, sure, but in the end they lose in comparison to the Alliance, for the member races of the Alliance did not become corrupt, they fought against the Burning Legion's corruption so fiercely that they managed to avoid the corruption.

    Now, look at the Undead (Forsaken): they, like the Orcs, managed to become free from the corruption. But a lot of the evil influence from the Burning Legion remains, just look at the biological experiments they do.

    The new Blood Elves are addicted to magic, and their culture revolves around the idea that totaliarianism is A Good ThingTM. For instance, see how did they manage to get Paladins: they captured and enslaved a holy entity that would have given holy powers to them had they simply asked! But no, Blood Elves don't ask, Blood Elves take!

    And the Trolls were cannibals that only gave up on cannibalism because the Orcs told them that they wouldn't be allowed to join the Horde if they kept doing that.

    From the entire Horde, the only race that is clearly and plainly good are the Tauren. They're with the Horde due to their sense of duty, because the Orcs for having saved them, but that's it.

    Now, let's look at the Alliance:

    The villest thing the Night Elves did was to go around in a killing spree against Furbolgs, thinking all of them were corrupted and thus killing the minority that wasn't. They also built a new giant tree when their gods told them "no" (the shock! the horror!).

    The Gnomes messed up badly and ended poisoning their own capital after being invaded by trolls. Now they have to live with the Dwarves.

    The Dwarves dig big holes, what the Night Elves think violates "Mother Azeroth" (or something like that).

    The Draenei had bad luck and ended in a forced landing in Azeroth while fighting the Burning Legion.

    And the Humans, ah, the Humans! The most horrendous thing they did was not to pay the masons that rebuilt their capital, these masons now being pretty revolted with the nobles...

    So, all things considered, I don't think both are equal in the moral level. The Horde is clearly, at least, a "bad neighbour". Were not for the existence of the much more evil Burning Legion, in comparison to which the Horde is made of saints, and the moral difference between the Alliance and the Horde would be really undisputable.

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