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Ten Gaming Myths Debunked

ThinSkin writes "The Playstation 3 will fail. Video games are too violent. Copy protection is the beginning of the end for gaming. These myths and others are the target for Loyd Case over at ExtremeTech as he takes ten gaming myths apart and debunks them. From the article: 'Rumors are partly due to the nature of the overheated coverage that's the rule of the day on Internet sites. Rumors spread, become accepted as fact and remain embedded in people's belief systems long after the actual facts have emerged. There also seems to be relatively little historical perspective among some writers, which can alleviate breathless hype, either positive or negative.'"

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  1. Is this guy a psychic? by kmhebert · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can he know the PS3 will not fail? Is... is he going to give me $600?

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    1. Re:Is this guy a psychic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Examine the guys logic carefully:

      The PS3 will not fail as long as it still has developers.
      Developers will not jump ship because the PS3 will sell well.

      Perfectly sound logic to me!

    2. Re:Is this guy a psychic? by digitrev · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because web backlash means almost nothing to the "mainstream" gamer. All it takes is for a sizable group of people that fall under these categories for the PS3 to succeed.


      1. Want to own a gaming system.
      2. See Sony as the brand name for gaming.
      3. Have the $600 to drop on one.
      4. Have a good impression of the PS3 (read as: not a big internet user)

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    3. Re:Is this guy a psychic? by coop247 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What did the "Web Hype" do for Snakes on a Plane, oh thats right, NOTHING. Just like some bad press will not kill the PS3. Believe it or not (gasp), there are a lot of people that don't read Slashdot, and don't troll gaming message boards.

      There are 106 million people who have a PS2, thats a pretty large customer base. Maybe some of them can't afford 500 at launch, but I guarantee there are a couple million who can and will. Later on down the road when the price comes down and availability increases, the rest of the 100 million can get one, its called Price Discrimination. Why should Sony sell you a PS3 for 400 when I'll pay 600.

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    4. Re:Is this guy a psychic? by Gooba42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The same parents who paid $800 for their 4th grader's laptop will buy the $600 PS3.

      My now departed mother's 3rd grade students had plenty of buying power and parents do *not* pay enough attention to kids' gaming. One of her kids spent all his free time playing Vice City. I don't believe that game restrictions need to be draconian but if the line be drawn, 3rd graders don't make it by a long shot.

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    5. Re:Is this guy a psychic? by Junta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even if you have people in there with 4 or 5 SNESs that is a metric butt load of households with SNESs.

      The name Nintendo is always going to be associated with gaming by non gamers... and parents will buy there children a N64 to replace/upgrade a SNES because it makes sense from a non informed consumers perspective.

      (could also replace PS2/Sony with 2600/Atari for similar results, an established market means something, but it far from means as much as people give it credit for).
      Fact of the matter is that for the most part people aren't just sheep. More so than they should be, but when asked to shell out 600 bucks for something, they will consider it more thoroughly and not automatically buy it for their kids just because they had a PS2 and their kid liked the PS2.

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    6. Re:Is this guy a psychic? by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There is a whole genre of people that marketers call "gold-collar." They have jobs that are neither blue nor white collar, generally fast food or mall type jobs. These people spend Hundreds on a purse. They are more or less people who make very little money but buy expensive luxury goods. It seems odd, but they are very real...
      http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/arizonali ving/articles/0727goldcollar.html
      http://www.usatoday.com/life/lifestyle/2005-06-08- gold-collar_x.htm?csp=N009
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold-collar_worker
      Um and one other thing- say it with me- CREDIT CARDS
      Intelligent people think something that costs $600 costs, well, $600. A ton of people think $600 costs an extra $2 on their minimum monthly payment on their Capital One card... Money is not an issue to a lot of people, as long as they can charge it...

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    7. Re:Is this guy a psychic? by twistedsymphony · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't understand your logic... the cheaper version of the Xbox 360 is infact LESS crippled then the cheaper version of the PS3... If you buy an Xbox 360 CORE version it's essentially the same console less a hard drive, sure you loose some features without the hard drive, but it's not like the differences aren't printed right on the side of the box, and if you DO decided you that you should have gone for the higher priced SKU you can still buy said hard drive and make the difference between the two nothing more then some chrome trim on the DVD bezel.

      On the other hand the HDMI port not being included in the lower SKU is entirely non-upgradable, sure TODAY it only effects a few people with HDTVs who would rather have a digital video interface instead of an analog one. but that port is necessary for playing Blu-Ray discs down the road, when the MPAA decides to enact the image constraint tokens those without an HDMI port will find that their blu-ray discs are actually producing a High-Def image... at that point in time you'll be stuck with no way to upgrade and scratching your head why you fronted all that extra cash for a blu-ray player that is incapable of playing HD movies.

      The only thing not having a hard drive on the Xbox 360 prevents you from doing is playing Xbox 1 games (since they were all built for a console with a hard drive: the xbox 1) and playing two select games that require the hard drive, those being Final Fantasy XI and Football Manager. I certainly wouldn't define that as "crippled" and again if you decided you need those features upgrading is as simple as buying a hard drive and snaping it to the side of the console....

  2. Yay for blog hits. by daeg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since when is blog commentary considered myth debunking?

    I'm happy to say that with Javascript disabled I didn't give him any ad impressions for that drivel apparently deemed Slashdot-worthy. I have a vertical scrollbar for a reason -- and that reason certainly isn't to click "Next page".

  3. The myths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Playstation 3 will Fail
    PC Games are Doomed
    You Need a $500 Graphics Card
    Console Games are for Twitch Gamers
    Handheld Games are for Kids
    Console Games are Too Simple
    PC Games are Too Complicated
    PC Copy Protection is Too Onerous
    Games are Too Violent
    I'm Embarrassed About Gaming

  4. True, the PS3 will not fail... by gkhan1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...but it will sure as hell not do very well. When seriously hardcore gamers, like the Penny Arcade guys, says that no way will they buy it at launch, you have a problem. Sure, the initial batch of consoles will sell out, they always do, but there is no way it can threaten the 360 in dominance. The Xboxs online stuff alone will probably make it more popular (and yes, I know Sony is launching its own thing (PS HUB, is it? or have they changed it?) but I doubt that it will be as good as Micrsofts).

    True, the Playstation brand has some cachet in Japan, and even some in the states and Europe. But weighing that against $600 (and even more in Europe) will ensure it a perpetual second or third place in the rankings. I guarantee it.

    1. Re:True, the PS3 will not fail... by gkhan1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, but they will probably wait for a price-drop (which will happen when Sony realizes that nobody is buying them, and then they've already lost). And really, when people whose very profession is the study of games simply refuse to go out and get one, you are in deep shit. I've heard a few people on the Gamespot podcast who've said the same thing, even though for them its a tax write-off! I mean, come on!

  5. Eleven. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Myth 11: Breaking up an article into little bitty chunks and failing to provide a printer-friendly view motivates people to read your content.

  6. PS3's failure is not a "myth". by zyl0x · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The Playstation 3 will fail.
    By definition, a myth is:
    1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
    2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
    3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
    4. an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
    5. an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
    Going from definition 3, which I assume this "journalist" is also using, the PS3's failure would have to be completely made-up. This is, in fact, quite the opposite. The PS3's failure has been a calculated one, gathered from both the facts given to us from Sony's stupid PR team, and the concepts of what have made successful consoles in the past.
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  7. Thank goodness it is a new article! by bigbigbison · · Score: 3, Interesting

    WHen I saw the headline, I was afrad that someone had stumbled on Henry Jenkins "Video Game Myths Debunked" had been rediscovered once again and posted. (Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the article, but it just gets discovered every once in a while as if it were a new article).

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  8. Is this some sort of joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So on the first page I read this.

    I've been following interactive games for nearly two decades now, both as a gamer and as someone who writes about gear that PC gamers use.

    Than I get to the second page and read this.

    I'm not much of a Sony fan, and never owned a Playstation 2.

    That is where I stopped reading. How am I suppose to take someone opinion seriously when they aren't even a serious counsel gamer. No offense, but there is a very different world between that of a counsel and that of a PC, and a very fine line as well. A fine line that has long been crossed with a 600 dollar price tag and a trail of broken promises. It is very hard to take this artical seriously whatsoever.

  9. 5 pages to say nothing? by Xehn · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Printer friendly version

    This entire article reads like "Here is something no one really believes in the first place, and here is why it isn't true." This isn't "debunking myths", this is taking things that MAY have been true about gaming 10 years ago, and listing common sense exceptions that anyone reading the games section of /. would mutter in their sleep.

    From TFA:
    I'm Embarrassed About Gaming
    This is not so much a public myth, as a private one. I've spoken with large numbers of people over the years who confess to me that they're gamers, too, as if we're part of some giant Gamer's Anonymous group trying to break the habit.

    I don't know about you, but I've never thought of gaming as an embarrassment. Especially when today, the game industry does more in sales than Hollywood. How many people are embarrassed about enjoying movies (certain prequels of certain sci-fi trilogies notwithstanding)? I, for one, am embarrassed I took the time to read this.
  10. "Video Games Are Too Violent" by n6kuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...is not a myth. It's a personal opinion.
    For some people, no video game is too violent; for others, even Pac-Man is way too 62% violent.

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  11. Uh... by Dragoon412 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    But the proponents of PC gaming Armageddon forget that the game play styles of PC games versus console games are different.

    This gets bandied about all the time, and I wonder if anyone saying it ever stops to think.

    PC and console games tend to be different because the systems have different capabilities. Your PC's monitor has, traditionally, crammed a lot more pixels onto the screen than your TV's. This has tended to favor genres that need a lot of screen real-estate, like RTS, and the genres that typically go heaviest on the eye candy, like FPS. Furthermore, every PC comes equipped with a keyboard and mouse (spare me the pedantry of your 8086 not having a mouse), which gives a more precise control setup than a typical gamepad. What needs precision in control more than anything? FPS games. Hence, the PC has dominated RTS and FPS, while the console has played to its strengths (or, at least, to minimize its weaknesses), giving us menu-based RPGs, sports, platformers, and the like.

    But think about it - HDTV? A 1080p TV is pushing a lot more pixels than most peoples' monitors. Even at 720p, you've got a whole lot of pixels on that screen. And the consoles are taking advantage. RTS is looking more and more feasible on the console. Meanwhile, they've got the "ooh, wow, eye candy!" effect from the resolution increase. So does anyone think it's really a major stretch to see a KBM setup on a console? Hell, the Xbox already has one! And for all we (no pun intended) know, the Wiimote is going to blow the KBM setup out of the water for FPS gameplay.

    So, I'm not saying the PC is dying, but looking at this zomg pc gamez r difrent then console games argument: the gameplay experiences are different because of the hardware differences, and the hardware differences are decreasingly significant.

    The PC once had exclusive dominion over online play, superior control, superior display, and moddability, at the expense of higher cost and (potentially) having to deal with the headache of PC hardware/compatibility issues.

    Now, the consoles have online play. They've got the great displays, and tentatively, even better control, with none of the hassles of PC gaming.

    The only thing the PC's got a leg up on, now, is moddability, and with the likes of XBL, how long can we expect that to last, maybe this generation?
  12. For PS3, it depends on how you define failure by Astarica · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If failure means 'fail to utterly dominate the market like PS and PS2', which is certainly a valid criteria, then it does seem like PS3 is definitely going to fail. Note that you can get a 51% market share, which would be plenty good for any companies not named Sony, and still be considered a failure relative to the PS and PS2.

  13. I was debunked too by ReidMaynard · · Score: 3, Funny

    at summer camp

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  14. Myths or opinions? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Myth: The Playstation 3 will Fail
    This isn't a "myth", it's an opinion. It can't be proven or disproven, because it involves matters that haven't happened yet. Once the PS3 is launched, then we can argue if it failed in the market or not.

    BTW, I find it disturbing that this fellow feels that there's no way Sony will lose third party support. It's already happening *before* the console is launched. If they lose much more *after* the console's launch, the console may very well "fail".

    PC Games are Doomed
    As a sweeping statement, I agree that it's too broad. However, I feel compelled to argue that PC Games lack a lot of the popularity and developer support that once existed. Rather than having titles that are uniquely suited to the PC, we're instead faced with titles that are designed to be ported to consoles. The result is that the PC Platform is missing all the fresh titles that would push gaming into new realms. PCs are quickly falling back into business and communications machines with Indie, Web Based, and Casual titles providing less sweeping amusements.

    You Need a $500 Graphics Card
    Where did he pull this one from? Hardcore gamers want a $500 graphics card, but I've never seen it advertised that you need a $500 graphics card for your inexpensive gaming machine. NVidia and ATI have budget lines for the occasional gamer.

    Console Games are for Twitch Gamers
    He thinks Tomb Raider: Legends is an example of a non-twitch game? Um, Civilization? Sim City? The Sims? Methinks this is what is meant by "non-twitch" games. In any case, this idea died with the SNES. (Populous, Sim City, and several other good non-twitch games.) He needs to get with the program.

    Handheld Games are for Kids
    This "myth" is no longer a "myth". It's blindingly obvious that the PSP isn't targetted at 8 year old Jimmy.

    Console Games are Too Simple
    Is it just me, or is this guy REALLY behind the curve? Again, PC Games and Console Games are the same games these days! There are very few PC exclusives anymore. So I don't know where he's getting this idea that people think this. Unless, that is, he's pulling from his 10-years-out-of-date knowledge on PCs vs. Consoles.

    Games are Too Violent
    This isn't a myth. As games target higher age groups, they quickly gain a lot of "adult" content in the form of violence and sexuality. Max Payne pops to mind as a game that was quite disturbing. Similarly, the new 360 title Gears of War is full of disturbing imagery like corpses hanging from hooks. Just because he's playing the Sims doesn't mean that games aren't getting more violent. Then again, just because violent games exist, doesn't mean that games like The Sims don't exist. My only wish is that there'd be a bit more diversification than there is today. Far too many titles (especially for the 360) target "Mature" audiences.
  15. The "myths" by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    None of these are even remotely qualifiable as "myths."

    The Playstation 3 will Fail - This is still wild speculation either way, until it is released and either does well or flops. Either way, speculation on the future is not a myth.
    PC Games are Doomed - Groundless FUD, not a myth.
    You Need a $500 Graphics Card - Not a myth for even the most basic Slashdotter with the slightest grasp on the subject.
    Console Games are for Twitch Gamers - See above.
    Handheld Games are for Kids - See above.
    Console Games are Too Simple - See above.
    PC Games are Too Complicated - See above.
    PC Copy Protection is Too Onerous - Mostly a subjective argument, and too widely ranged a subject to debate in one chunk. It's an issue, not a myth.
    Games are Too Violent - See above.
    I'm Embarrassed About Gaming - See above.

  16. I'm not usually a spelling nazi, but... by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 3, Funny

    How am I suppose to take someone opinion seriously when they aren't even a serious counsel gamer. No offense, but there is a very different world between that of a counsel and that of a PC

    My wife is in counseling psychology. She plays games, so I would consider her a serious counsel gamer and she thinks the PS3 is not going to succeed. Also, you are very correct that there is a big difference between counsel and a PC. However, with the Internet, I get a lot of counsel from my PC, so I guess it really is a fine line.

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  17. Who ever believed these "myths"? by DesireCampbell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are they trying to say anyone ever believed in these "myths"? I can't pick out anything that any normal person would actually believe.

    1. The Playstation 3 will Fail
    Huh? What's the difference between this playstation and the last one? This scenario is exactly like when the PS2 was introduced: nothing really ground-breaking, better graphics, new media options, better controllers... and people still bought the PS2. I see no reason the PS3 won't do just as well.

    2. PC Games are Doomed
    Who the hell ever said that? I can't even fathom where that idea came from.

    3. You Need a $500 Graphics Card
    When has that ever been true? You need a mid-range ($150-$200) video card for top-notch graphics and performance. That has been true for nearly a decade. As new games come out and need better graphics cards, new graphics cards come out and push down the price of the older ones.

    4. Console Games are for Twitch Gamers
    Huh? Consoles are for platformers, auto-aim shooters, and RPGs. Where does "twitch" come into play there? The console controller doesn't lend itself to 'twich gameplay' at all. A computer mouse, on the other (twitchy) hand...

    5. Handheld Games are for Kids
    I've heard "video games are for kids" but nothing about handheld games specifically. Why would handheld games (the majority of which are styled after, or are remakes of, old console games) be treated differently than a TV-based console game?

    6. Console Games are Too Simple
    Huh? You mean the few console-only games? Most games on consoles are ports of PC games, or vice versa.

    7. PC Games are Too Complicated
    How is this even it's own entry? Isn't this just the inverse for the last "myth"?

    8. PC Copy Protection is Too Onerous
    That is true. Just being there is too onerous for my tastes. Strangely though, there's no mention of the extraordinarily more onerous 'console game copy protection'.

    9. Games are Too Violent
    Is Jack Thompson still alive?

    10. I'm Embarrassed About Gaming
    I can't imagine anyone being embarrassed about playing video games. Perhaps there's some shame in 14-hour WoW sessions, but with the general "coolness" regarded to video games over the last five years or so, I can't see anyone hiding the fact that they play Mario on occasion.

    Unless they meant "myths" like 'believed by a few crackpots who have no idea what their talking about', then yes - these certainly ARE myths.

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  18. Forgot one by MImeKillEr · · Score: 4, Funny

    11. Duke Nuke'em will actually be finished and brought to market sometime in the next decade.

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  19. Riiight by Kenoli · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >> "I'm not much of a Sony fan, and never owned a Playstation 2. But I think the Playstation 3 will do just fine."

    Direct translation:
    >> "I am an idiot."

    Now go click on the sidebar ads, and the pop-ups, and flips through all the pages of that crap so he can get more hits.

  20. Re:Is this guy a psychic? or only right on 9 myths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm not sure someone going by the name Hentai has any ground to stand on there. You'd have been perfectly happy if it were called the Nintendo Tentacle Fuck.