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Subliminal Spam Using an Animated GIF

JohnGrahamCumming writes "Everyone's noticed the recent flood of image spam (including the SpamAssassin developers who are working on an OCR-extension to beat it), but take a look at this spam containing a subliminal message flashed every 17 seconds to try to entice you to buy the stock being pumped. Does this work? Warning: link shows the actual spam; don't blame me if you lose money on this stock!"

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  1. That's ridiculous. by DrunkenTerror · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's actually a pretty good stock.

  2. Subliminal messages by personman21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't work. This supposed message is so obvious it's hard not to laugh.

    1. Re:Subliminal messages by rritterson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you are aware of the message, it's not subliminal--it's just plain liminal.

      There is a lot of subliminal messages in advertising, especially on TV. Given our consumerist culture, i'd say it's working fairly well.

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    2. Re:Subliminal messages by neax · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought [send me] that [all] Subliminal messages [your] were supposed [money] to be subtle....

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  3. Nope. by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Informative

    This really has nothing to do with subliminal messages, and everything to do with trying to defeat OCR software. I was seeing animated GIFs exactly like this where the "buy" frames were just blank, before they started adding "BUY!" to those frames.

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    1. Re:Nope. by Curmudgeonlyoldbloke · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nah - it's just someone " 'aving a larf " and trying to make their spam stand out for a split-second among all the other spam.

      It worked though - even though the original article is slashdotted all of the images have been reproduced here. The spammers must be laughing all the way to the bank...

    2. Re:Nope. by JediLow · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never underestimate the stupidity of people.

  4. Except.... by madaxe42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Outlook doesn't support animated gifs (nor most CSS, but that's another matter...!) - I received one of these this morning but all it showed was the 'buy buy buy' frame - my response was 'what an utterly utterly pointless spam'.

  5. Well... by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seems to me as if the people behind the spam have been reading a few too many articles about subliminal marketing and are just trying their luck. What i'd be more worried about if I was them would be using an animated gif in massive mailing, surely that is going to heavily suck bandwidth (as much as they do have, a lot of resources go in to the mailing and the hardware to power it). If I were them I'd stick with the text plea, I'm far more likely to want to help out the prince of Nigeria than a 1998-style flashing .gif.

  6. Bah by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bah. They could have been slightly more subtle. I mean, three frames in a row? For Pete's sake, how stupid do they think we are?

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    1. Re:Bah by CreateWindowEx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Studies have shown that subliminal advertising, much like the typical slashdot post, is mostly full of it.

    2. Re:Bah by Isotopian · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is pure hogwash. Do you always believe everything you read is true? Surely, a person like yourself, i would hope, wouldn't be so gullible. You should make it a point to safeguard against foolish trysts such as that.

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  7. For the impatient by Southpaw018 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's the four frames extracted.
    Main image
    Subliminal image 1
    Subliminal image 2
    Subliminal image 3

    The subliminal images are shown for a fraction of a second every few seconds.

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  8. Block all Images by telchine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    OCR is a ridiculous solution. It can be easily combatted by spammers in the same way the CAPTCHA images defeat OCR techniques.

    My solution:

    For email addresses that are on spam databases, I block all emails that contain images at the MTA level.

    Anyone who has good reason to be sending me images will know my non spam-infested address.

    1. Re:Block all Images by mkavanagh2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      CAPTCHA images defeat OCR techniques? To my knowledge most text-image CAPTCHAs don't defeat sophisticated OCR and those that do are hardly likely to be easily readable enough to spam any but the most gullible to any effect.

  9. Not subliminal! by Glock27 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I can clearly see the words flash when the .gif animates.

    Therefore, it's not subliminal, since the flashed frame is supposed to be imperceptible to the conscious mind.

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    1. Re:Not subliminal! by chriscoolc · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to help them out, but next time they need to leave the main text visible in the subliminal images.

  10. Sad Situation by NaCh0 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Email spam has turned into an arms race of who can outrun the spam assassin developers. Will flash email be the next big thing? I sure hope not.

    Really, the best thing I ever did in my email client was to turn off image loading.

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  11. Not quite subliminal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    How many people would actually sit and look at this image for 17 seconds? It only takes a fraction of a second to realize it's junk.

    Did the blogger even READ the wikipedia article linked to? It says "These messages are indiscernible to the conscious mind". I can almost count the number of BUYs in the image.

    I bet this is more of an attempt to get around OCR spam detectors that don't support animated gifs.

  12. Interesting by mugnyte · · Score: 3, Informative


      I seriously doubt the capbilities of a GIF to recreate a true subliminal advertisement. It's a bit dependent on the screen position, machine load, audience's focus, etc. With a movie or a a captured TV audience, it's a bit stronger. Also, this isn't a metaphorical allure, but simply a crude flashing.

    For some things subliminal messages can work. For others, it is well-known to be completely ineffective.

    I doubt this is going to be much of a difference in SPAM, and is rather a sales differentiation point for a mass marketeer. Somebody is paying extra for this, for sure.

  13. Slashdot a better spam blocker by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Funny

    If only we can just have every one of these things submitted to /. The resulting slashdotting will simply remove their servers. Easy!

  14. New slashdot business model by mnmn · · Score: 3, Informative

    (1) Send out spam using a new technique
    (2) Post on slashdot telling people about the spam
    (3) Get enormous viewership
    (4) Profit!

    Just wait for the new Viagra technologies slashdot articles.

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    1. Re:New slashdot business model by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wait for the new Viagra technologies slashdot articles.

      1. Most /.ers are too young to worry about Viagra.
      2. Most /.ers are too single to worry about Viagra.

      Using a very special algorerythem (patent pending, tm, etc.) I have determined that:
      A. There are 12 married /.ers over 40,
      B. Four married posters under 40
      B. Two guys that are dating (not each other)
      C. Two girls who reads Slashdot.

      Of course, some AC posts might be from people who really do have accounts, so these numbers may be inflated.

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    2. Re:New slashdot business model by rkcallaghan · · Score: 4, Funny

      C. Two girls who reads Slashdot.

      Given the responses to any post I ever make, I think your estimate is over by one.

      ~Rebecca

    3. Re:New slashdot business model by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny
      ~Rebecca
      Hi. Do you come here often?
    4. Re:New slashdot business model by Iron+Condor · · Score: 5, Funny


      A. There are 12 married /.ers over 40,
      B. Four married posters under 40
      B. Two guys that are dating (not each other)
      C. Two girls who reads Slashdot.

      E. An undetermined but very small number of folks who can keep the first FOUR letters of the alphabet straight...

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  15. No, it doesn't. by DynaSoar · · Score: 4, Informative

    > Does it work?

    Rarely and barely. Under very controlled conditions, with very careful measurement, a very slight effect which lasts a very short time can sometimes be found. However, most of the conditions under which people attempt to use it are so uncontrolled (ie. the entirety of whatever environment you're in is affecting you) that there'd be no way to detect the usually tiny effect. If anyone claims it has effect in such a situation, they have no clue how it works, and are probably trying to sell advertising to someone who is so desparate that they have even less of a clue.

    The reality of the matter doesn't keep it from happening. Greed drives people to try things that would make even a habitual lottery ticket buyer snicker. For many years (and still, as far as I know) advertisers of tobacco and alcohol would have grotesque death images airbrushed into their magazine and billboard ads. This was based on the dual assumption that subliminals work, and Freud's theory that there was a ubiquitous "death wish", and it was stronger and more prone to manipulation in people who used these substances.

    We've dispresnsed with the first, given that magazines and billboards are hardly "controlled" environments. Freud dispensed with the second before he died, years before this was ever attempted.

    Despite overwhelming odds against it, advertisers still paid to have these images inserted into their ads. I know of one couple who worked at a commercial art house in New York who made $125,000 together in 1978 doing nothing but these. Large corporations will gamble large amounts way out of proportion for any real return just to grab a tenth of a per cent from competitors. John Sculley's biography about his Pepsi days talks about this greed effect (though not subliminals).

    The very first "attempt at subliminals" (the "popcorn and Coke" experiment in a movie theater) was a hoax. Like all such material, it is properly filed on snopes.com, along with the rest of the story. http://www.snopes.com/business/hidden/popcorn.asp

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  16. Oblig. Simpsons Quote by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lisa: But you have recruiting ads on TV. Why do you need subliminal messages?
    Smash: It's a three-pronged attack. Subliminal, liminal, and superliminal.
    Lisa: Superliminal?
    Smash: I'll show you. [opens the window, and shouts at Lenny and Carl, who are standing on the corner] Hey, you! Join the Navy! Carl: Uh, yeah, all right.
    Lenny: I'm in.

    --

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  17. Must... buy.... by madaxe42 · · Score: 3, Funny

    lightspeed briefs!

  18. Re:Cause for concern? by parallax · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, there is no cause for concern.

    I did a Ph.D. on the use of preattentive perception (read "subliminal") on just-in-time memory support. This was the "Memory Glasses" project that got a bunch of media attention a few years ago -- you may have even seen me pitching it to Alan Alada on PBS's Scientific American Frontiers "you can make it on your own" episode.

    The long and short of it is that, yes -- properly encoded, "subliminal messages" can jog your memory, but no, they don't otherwise work as sug,gestions or influence your behavior. If you're curious, you can actually read my dissertation on the Memory Glasses and find out more.

    There was a lot of hype in the 70's and 80's about the evils of subliminal marketing, but it was all based on junk science with forged data.

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  19. Most successful ever by dcapel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That piece of spam is possibly the most cost-effective individual piece of spam ever: the spammer sent it to one person and gets 25000+ views of it instead.

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  20. Also Doesn't Work (Wikipedia) by dch24 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The article on Wikipedia is actually pretty good. There may be some transitory or faint effects caused by subliminal messages. Advertisers have been trying to capitalize on this possibility for 49 years.

    If subliminal messages had any significant effect we would know about it. They've been trying for years.

    There have been interesting claims at subliminal messages in popular music. KAKE-TV in Wichita, Kansas, used a subliminal message to attempt catch the BTK killer, but it had no perceptible effect.

    I'd say subliminal messages don't work.

    1. Re:Also Doesn't Work (Wikipedia) by FhnuZoag · · Score: 5, Funny

      The seemingly random bolding of text in your comment gives me a sudden urge to buy stuff.

    2. Re:Also Doesn't Work (Wikipedia) by FhnuZoag · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I suspect it was done for the science programme Tommorrow's World. (Pretty cool thing giving weekly news of scientific/technological developments, now sadly deceased)

      I don't buy the study, though. The geographical split is likely very significant here. There's good evidence that people decide these things based on what they feel at the time, and there's also good evidence showing that people's self-statements of happiness are influenced by where they live. Without a control group, the results are pretty meaningless.

  21. For a good laugh, read their SEC filing by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative
    Here's their most recent quarterly SEC filing.

    Fun highlights:

    • Urbanesq.com Inc. ("Urbanesq") was incorporated August 25, 2000 under the laws of the Province of Canada. Effective October 18, 2001, Urbanesq completed a merger with Koala International Wireless Inc. ("Koala"), a public company incorporated in the State of Nevada...changed the name of the Company to Trimax Corporation...
    • On July 29, 2005, the Company entered into an Exclusive Supply agreement ... provided the Company with the exclusive right to sell Switzerland based Ascom broadband over power line communication access products ("Products") in Canada and non-exclusive rights world wide, which the "Partner" represented that it had secured itself from Ascom. ... Subsequent to the signing and the advancement of funds for the "Exclusive Supply Agreement" the company was made aware that the product supplier had no right to grant a sub-license from Ascom. Furthermore, the supplier was previously in default and was never in any position to grant any sub-license on its own license.
    • The Company has not earned any revenues from limited principal operations...
    • Total Current Assets: $105,115. Total current liabilities: $536,870.

    So, after six years, the company has zero revenue and couldn't even get set up as a second-tier reseller of broadband over powerline products. Which is probably why the stock is at $0.38 and headed down.

    If you go back to older related SEC filings, you can find the story of the "Hipster portable Internet access device" (didn't happen), and the previous history of Koala International Wireless as a vitamin company under the name "Kettle River Group" (also a flop).

    This stock is not "poised for a breakthrough". Except maybe in the down direction.

  22. A little history is in order here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was in college in the sixty's I attended a talk on subliminal advertising and there were some rather interesting points. First, advertisers determined the speed at which it worked, then crossed the outstretched palms of their coin-operated congressmen to define a much faster speed as "subliminal," thus clearing the legal field. Next they performed a major experiment. At that time (maybe still, I don't watch the boob tube at all) Pillsbury had an ad where a cartoon "Dough Boy" would jump out of a roll of biscuits when it was hit on a table edge and proclaim the "wonderfullness" of the product. A subliminal spot of a pregnant woman was placed just before Dough Boy jumped out . . . and sales soared. There was also a major flap about some "scientist" who supposedly faked his data on subliminal advertising, which played right into the advertisers hands, of course, so who knows what to believe?

    BillyDoc

  23. it's slashdotted by tritonman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm going to buy it just because it got slashdotted!

  24. OT: "Doughboy" joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Q: You know what you see when the Pillsbury Doughboy bends over?

    A: Donuts