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The Science of eBay

PreacherTom writes "Professors of marketing, economics, management, and psychology have published dozens of papers to try to explain how and why eBay users buy and sell online. At the same time, there is no shortage of people offering helpful hints online. Kerry Miller takes a novel approach, offering 10 tips to maximize your profit that are based on a summary of these scientific analyses, rather than just 'educated' guessing."

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  1. That is not science... by Funkcikle · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...and describing it as such is just yet more "puffery" intended to get people to look at THAT guide instead of others, thus driving up ad revenue.

    Most of the tips are common sense or obvious to people who have used eBay a few times, to both buy and sell.

  2. The Science of eBay by Wellington+Grey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know about anyone else, but I've about had it with eBay. It hasn't improved in the last five years and they slowly nickle and dime you to death. I'd love an article on The Science of Leaving eBay: ten reasonable alternatives.

    -Grey

  3. THE TIPS - ad free by Eightyford · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. Set the starting price low (except for items you expect little interest in). Low starting prices stimulate auction traffic and get early bidders psychologically invested in the auction, leading to more completed sales and higher final prices. Professor Gillian Ku from London Business School and professors Adam Galinsky and J. Keith Murnighan from Northwestern found that Nikon cameras with starting prices of $0.01 resulted in significantly higher final prices than the average price for completed camera auctions.

    An auction for a kitchen sink with a starting price of $225 ended without a single bidder. When re-auctioned with a starting price of $75, the sink sold for $275. The exception to the start-low rule: If you're selling an idiosyncratic item you don't think a lot of people will bid on, set a price closer to the item's actual value.

    2. Use reserve prices with caution, especially for low-priced items. When using a low minimum bid, nervous sellers sometimes set secret reserve prices to make sure their item doesn't sell for less than the item's true value. Using reserves is a risky strategy for sellers, say professors at Stanford and the University of Arizona, because it reduces the probability that the auction will end in a sale.

    In an experiment using Pokémon trading cards, they found that secret-reserve auctions on average resulted in fewer serious bidders per auction and lower final sale prices. However, other research suggests that for auctions of higher-priced goods (over $25), secret reserves might actually push revenues higher when the auctions end in a successful sale.

    3. Use photos in your listings. Listings with photos receive much more traffic than listings without photos. Generally speaking, more traffic to your listing--especially on the first day of an auction--results in more active bidders, and the more bidders competing for an item, the higher the sale price. In one study at Stanford, researchers found that an extra bidder results in an 11.4% increase in auction revenue among all auctions, and a 5.5% increase for auctions in which there are least two bidders.

    4. Don't flood the market. If you're selling multiples of an item, space them out, rather then selling them all at once, says Ku--that's simple supply and demand at work.

    5. Spell-check. Misspellings decrease the amount of traffic an auction receives. Ku, Galinsky, and Murnighan found that Michael Jordan shirts listed "Micheal" went unsold almost twice as often as those that were spelled correctly. When sold, the misspelled brand names resulted in lower final sale prices.

    6. Hype it up. Ku and Murnighan suggest that inserting blatant puffery like "This shirt is hot!! A must-have for the summer!!" into low-starting-price auctions could stimulate interest better than more straightforward listings, and possibly even raise final sale prices. Researchers at Stanford found that auctions which mention the high retail price in an item description sell for 7% more on average.

    7. Hold longer auctions. Researchers from the University of Arizona and the University of Michigan found that longer auctions tend to fetch higher prices. While three-day and five-day auctions yield approximately the same prices, seven-day auctions are about 24% higher, and 10-day auctions 42% higher on average.

    8. Don't end auctions during "eBay happy hour." Though it might seem counterintuitive, a University of Pennsylvania researcher found that auctions ending during peak hours on eBay are actually 9.6% less likely to result in a sale. The reason? More competition. About 35% of auctions end between 5 p.m. and 8:59 p.m., when 25% of bids are placed.

    9. Charge for shipping--but not too much. Bidders don't pay much attention to shipping costs when placing bids, say professors at UC Berkeley and Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. CDs listed with a starting price of one cent with $3.99 shipping averaged 21% higher final sale prices than CDs set with an opening price of $4 and no shipping charge. B

    1. Re:THE TIPS - ad free by Ancil · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ad free?

      Looks to me like you've simply replaced Business Week ads with Slashdot ads.

      Business Week had to pay the author who wrote this story, out of its ad revenues. What right does Slashdot have to those revenues?

    2. Re:THE TIPS - ad free by macaddict · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I won't click on auctions that have "hype" in the listing. My first thought is "What's wrong with it? Why are they having trouble selling it that they need to hype it?" Hype on the description page will also make me go look elsewhere. A clear, concise and detailed description, that looks like somebody put some thought into it, is what will get me to consider the item. I mostly buy books, so pictures are a big plus--I can see what edition is for sale and get a basic idea of the condition. I don't bother with Reserve auctions at all. Either start with what you're willing to sell it for or forget it--I don't have time to play games of "Guess the minimum bid!".

      More and more I've been going to Amazon for used books, though. No auction to wait through and the prices are often much lower.

  4. Along the same lines... by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You always have to wonder why business professors -- if they know so much about how to read the market -- aren't out there making a fortune instead of making less as a professor.

    1. Re:Along the same lines... by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It probably lies in the difference between knowing and doing. You can know something, but not act on that knowledge, and then after the fact say "oh, I knew I should have done XYZ". Of course, humans tend to forget the times that we were wrong about these guesses.

      Most economics proffessors know that there is no sure-fire way to make money apart from saving and investing carefully. They know that just as many people lose money in the market as make it. But then again, you have some people that go to business school that don't teach, like Warren Buffet...

      Just a like between action and knowledge. Most economics profs I would guess have a large amount of money in savings, bonds and blue chip stocks.

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    2. Re:Along the same lines... by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You always have to wonder why business professors -- if they know so much about how to read the market -- aren't out there making a fortune instead of making less as a professor.

      I'm sure that there are plenty of people who are just happier in academia than in the "real world". If your needs are simple and you're going to make more money than you know what to do with either way, the person who delights in research is going to be content with a university position.

    3. Re:Along the same lines... by chris_eineke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Compare to Slashdotters who are out there making a fort... oh shit.

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    4. Re:Along the same lines... by foniksonik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i know parent is meant to be funny BUT IF a professor of economics isn't already wealthy and trading, etc. as a result of having worked private for many years before going to education... then the reason would be that they have no cash reserves with which to invest. Lots of people have what it takes mentally to be good traders, few people have what it takes financially. This is why most people are in 401k mutual funds, etc.... cause they just can't pull enough together at one time to invest independently.

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    5. Re:Along the same lines... by Garse+Janacek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some are. My undergrad econ professor was a millionaire who consulted for major companies, but taught freshman-level econ anyway because he enjoyed it.

      That may not be representative, but just because they're in academia doesn't mean there's no substance to what they're teaching. Some people just like teaching, or like the academic environment, or aren't interested in the sacrifices they'd have to make to really do well in business. Or have already done very well in business and are teaching from quasi-retirement, or whatever. You get the idea.

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    6. Re:Along the same lines... by Funkcikle · · Score: 2, Funny
      My undergrad econ professor was a millionaire who consulted for major companies, but taught freshman-level econ anyway because he enjoyed it.

      Or did that so he could teach incorrect economics in order to keep all the money for himself, muahahahaha.
  5. My 2 cents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Buy low. Sell high.

    That'll be $1 for the advice and $11.95 for shipping.

    No C.O.D's

  6. People just like to bid... by cjkeeme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's funny that many of the auction that I have seen on eBay actually close higher then if you had bought it at a retail store.

  7. Here's another good reason eBay works... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In bad times, people sell stuff. In good times they buy. Either way eBay is making $$$.

    Same reason alcohol is great: drink to forget (bad times), drink to celebrate (good times).

  8. Re:From the article... by ResidntGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did you collect and analyze data from ebay, like the researchers? No, you say? Then what makes you think your opinion matters?

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  9. My own tips from almost 4 years ago by phillymjs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Originally from this Usenet posting.

    Updated:

    Don't post stuff in lots. Auction stuff off separately because you'll have a hard time finding someone who wants all of it, but you will get bombarded with annoying emails from people interested only in one or two items who want you to break up the lot. Instead, list everything the same day, mention in each item description that you've got other items that complement this item, and create a link to all your current auctions (assume people won't think to click on the official eBay "View seller's other auctions" link).

    Having nice, large photos of everything will encourage a higher final value. People like to know what they're buying.

    Having detailed descriptions will cut down on having to answer the same question a hundred times from prospective bidders.

    Make the auctions run for at least 5 days, so patient people who like to search and zero in on low-priced items they need will be able to put you in their watch list-- more watchers in the beginning means more people competing with each other and driving up the price at the end.

    Time the start of the auctions so they end on a Sunday evening, but before 8pm-- when people are almost certain to be home but aren't yet glued to the TV. (But definitely don't end it the night of the Super Bowl!)

    I have used the above tips for years, with great success.

    ~Philly

  10. Corollaries by CmdrPorno · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many of the tips have corollaries for buyers. For example, if you're a buyer, search for misspellings, as the closing prices tend to be lower. I can see the big caveat to bidding on an auction with a reserve--you could end up the high bidder, but not a winner. Bidding on reserve auctions might work better for a buyer who needs a large quantity of a particular product--so losing one individual auction wouldn't be terribly frustrating.

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  11. Biz school different, those who teach also do ... by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You always have to wonder why business professors -- if they know so much about how to read the market -- aren't out there making a fortune instead of making less as a professor.

    Business programs are very different than scientific and engineering programs. I have BS and MS degrees in Computer Science. The MS degree was from a school near JPL, lots of part-time consulting gigs for profs and students. Now I'm working on an MBA. The relationship with industry is far more intimate with the business school. Prior to business school I believed in the "those who teach" line as well, now I know that the kernel of truth in that joke distorts the true big picture.

    In my marketing class some of the cases we studied were anonymized consulting projects the prof had run. These were projects intitiated by execs at big oil, big movie studio, etc. And no, I'm not at some big name ivy league school. State university, well regarded but not one of the big names.

    Several of the profs are semi-retired and having fun teaching after making millions. One is on his third career. 20 years in the Marines, 10 years with the company he founded, now teaching and consulting. Most of the professors do consulting for industry. They are hired to study organization problems, marketing/sale problems, etc. MBA and PhD candiates are often some of the grunts for these projects.

    Networking. I did not fully realize the importance of networking before business school, but for business it is essential. Teaching is an amazing networking tool. You are generating hundreds of managers and execs who will be inclined to come back to the prof with their problems.

  12. Can't agree with 2 and 9. by SeaFox · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Use reserve prices with caution, especially for low-priced items. When using a low minimum bid, nervous sellers sometimes set secret reserve prices to make sure their item doesn't sell for less than the item's true value. Using reserves is a risky strategy for sellers, say professors at Stanford and the University of Arizona, because it reduces the probability that the auction will end in a sale.

    I can comment on that one. I generally avoid auctions with reserve prices. Usually the reserve is too high, and I hate the stupid mystery of how much the item is actually being auctioned for. If the seller doesn't want to sell the item for less than XX dollars, just make that the minimum price. There are generally other sellers who have the same item and will be more direct about their expectations, and I like that.

    9. Charge for shipping--but not too much. Bidders don't pay much attention to shipping costs when placing bids, say professors at UC Berkeley and Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. CDs listed with a starting price of one cent with $3.99 shipping averaged 21% higher final sale prices than CDs set with an opening price of $4 and no shipping charge. But when the professors listed CDs with a $2 starting price and a $6 shipping cost, five of the 20 CDs went unsold.

    I call bullshit on that. Many people pay attention to shipping, and changes made in the last year to eBay's page display and search results make it harder to con people with inflated shipping charges becuase they are now shown much more prominantly in the auction.
  13. A Sucker Is Born Every Minute by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm not sure why there's any need to overcomplicate this. eBay works *because* there are morons out there with way too much money.

    Just make any ordinary item something *sound* special in some way, and start the pricing out with a number ending in ".95", and they jump on it like fleas. I've managed to sell numerous used items time and time again at above retail prices, because of this.

    Remember kids, it's not lying if it can't be proven wrong.

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  14. Excessive shipping isn't just to decieve the buyer by 512k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    it's because ebays fee structure, charges a percentage of the closing price, not the total bill (including shipping).

    so if you sold an item for $100 with $5 shipping, ebay would bill you for their share of $100.

    If you sold the same item for $1 with $104 shipping, ebay would bill you for their share of $1.

    Buying electronics on ebay is more trouble than it's worth, because of this. The margins in that category are so slim, that the only people who can make any money, are the ones who have excessive shipping.

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  15. 6. Hype It Up by 4D6963 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'll think about it next time I have something to sell

    "This PowerMac 6500 power supply unit is hot!! A must-have for the summer!!"

    Besides that, everything listed there is pretty obvious, except maybe the 8, which says not to make the auction end during the peak hour.

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  16. They forgot #11... by Lactoso · · Score: 2, Funny

    11. Make sure the legalese on your auction is at least 10 to 20 times longer than the actual description of your item...

  17. Re:The Price of Shipping by stuartkahler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ebay's policies specifically prohibit inboarding outrageously inflated shipping rates. Eg. BiN price of $1 for an iPod plus $300 'shipping'. People do this because Ebay just charges a percentage of the final price without shipping, and they want to keep the extra 5% for themself. Ebay tends to ignore this because it's very difficult to police, and there's a gray area like when someone charges $4 to ship a CD, and mails it for 75 cents via media mail. If you're the iPod guy charging $300 shipping, ebay will cancel your current auctions and send you a harsh letter to stop (with no followup). If you're charging $4 to ship CDs and don't combine shipping, Ebay won't do anything. Ultimately, these people shoot themselves in the foot anyway, because they get massive (relatively) amounts of negative feedback, causing their auctions to close at lower prices, that more than offset the amount they save on reduced ebay fees. This is in addition to the people who see the practice as a blatant ripoff attempt and shy away from the auction.