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Facebook Opening Up For The Public

Krishna Dagli writes to mention a BusinessWeek article about a move by Facebook to open up to the public. Up until now, in order to join Facebook you had to be an alumnus from certain High Schools, Colleges, or companies. Soon, individuals living in any one of 500 'geographic regions' can sign up. From the article: "People who joined Facebook because it was primarily a school-focused network may feel that it's losing a key distinction. As with the 'news feed' announcement, reception to this overhaul will come down to how well Facebook communicates. For the average student at New York University, for instance, little changes. The only people who can browse his profile before were other NYU students and that will stay the same. The change simply allows for 500 new groups to form that all operate independently on the Facebook platform. No one can browse all 9 million registered users." Update: 09/12 16:29 GMT by Z : Fixed latin conjugation. Mrs. Tomlinson would be so proud.

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  1. This is differnt? by Siberwulf · · Score: 4, Funny

    How is this different than MySpace now? other than the fact that now sexual predators know that a majority of the memebers are coeds?

    1. Re:This is differnt? by keyshawn632 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Eh, besides the ability to make your profile really tacky by having a god-awful color scheme, flash, and a music stream; only noticible difference [between facebook and myspace] that I see is that you must 'friend' the other person in order to see their entire profile.

      However, If you're not their 'friend', their name still comes up in the search engine and you can still see their name, school, a profile picture/avatar, and who they have listed as their friends. Although the information coming up in the search engine seems like a bit much, you can configure it so that your information does not come up in the search engine.
      The caveat with that, though, is that no one outside of your school network can make a friend request to you. You would have to initiate all friend requests.

      As a college student and facebook user, Facebook jumped the shark a long time ago .
      (adding high school, companies onto there, the status updates...)

      I'm not looking forward to having random middle-aged men sending me friend requests on facebook (I got these even as a male on myspace, and the college ladies will have their inboxes filled... *shudders*)

    2. Re:This is differnt? by Garse+Janacek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, facebook generally doesn't make the backs of my eyeballs feel like they're on fire, the way the page design on myspace usually does...

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    3. Re:This is differnt? by dfghjk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Didn't know the victim had to be underage for someone to be a "sexual predator".

  2. No more open than it was before by finkployd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People, if you have no caught on to this yet, a lot of employers have people at a lot of schools pulling facebook profiles for their HR dept. Some undergrad they pay, nephew of the CEO attending classes, a staff member, whatever. Your facebook profile WILL be seen outside of the fantasy restrictions you think facebook puts on it. They are under no obligation to honor those restrictions anyway, they could open up the whole thing tomorrow to the world and there is nothing you can do about it. The content you put on it is theirs, not yours, and they can license it to whomever they want or distribute it as they see fit. Read the ToS agreement.

    Finkployd

    1. Re:No more open than it was before by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This goes for anything that you post publically including your blog, your gallery, your Slashdot posts, your old usenet posts, your random Dodgeball history, etc.

      Be aware of what you are posting out there and that it is likely that it will be archived *forever* in some way for others to look at.

      We're not all going to get off as scott free as Arnold, Bill, and George when we're looking for a job and someone has evidence of our past history in hand.

    2. Re:No more open than it was before by Jacer · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's true... I have a friend that finished school two years ago. His employer asked him to create a facebook account and check the profiles of a handful of applicants from my school. Scary prospect.

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    3. Re:No more open than it was before by mdwh2 · · Score: 2

      This goes for anything that you post publically including your blog, your gallery, your Slashdot posts, your old usenet posts, your random Dodgeball history, etc.

      True, but the thing about Facebook is the information is not public in the sense of viewable by all - so if it turns out that they then retain the right to publish the information to all, then that is something to be worried about. This isn't the same as Slashdot making your Slashdot posts public, because they're already public, and you know that when you post.

    4. Re:No more open than it was before by Quaoar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny story:

      We were looking for a room-mate to replace a roomie of mine who was moving out. We post an ad on Craigslist, this dude responds and comes over to meet us. Everything seems fine...the guy is nice, polite, seems like he would have no problem playing the rent...

      We tell the guy that we'll probably let you move in, but we have to talk to our other room-mate first to make sure he was cool with it (he wasn't home at the time). On a hunch, I type in the guy's name on Google...

      First hit turns up a lot of dirt. Turns out the guy was a full-fledged lawyer, but had his bar certification stripped for multiple counts of fraud, perjury, filing false documents, etc etc. In addition, the guy starred in a soft-core gay porn that came out about 6 months prior. We promptly called the guy back and told him the room had been rented to someone else...

      So I guess the lesson is, the Internet can completely ruin your reputation, and close doors where you wouldn't expect it to.

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    5. Re:No more open than it was before by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ahhh, once again someone suggests that we should all hide our personhood behind the facade of "vanilla-flavored, grey-colored worker" in order to sustain a living. Well you don't live forever, folks. So if you make nothing to leave behind you now but the pinstripes on your suit, that's all that will remain of you once you're gone.

      I got on the subway this morning with just such a pack of yes-men. I couldn't tell them apart. Suits, hairdos, shiny little shoes, bland ties. They are all dead, unimportant, lost to history, no matter how big their bank accounts. They don't even matter to their friends or families beyond being "breadwinner." They could just as easily be any other hollow suit.

      No thanks. If you want me to be a hollow suit, I don't want to work for you. Take your money and go rape the third world somewhere.

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    6. Re:No more open than it was before by ericspinder · · Score: 2, Insightful
      So I guess the lesson is, the Internet can completely ruin your reputation, and close doors where you wouldn't expect it to.
      The second lesson is that names are not unique. If you didn't have corroborating evidence of his identity, such as SS number, age, previous addresses, it's just as likely that you held one man to account for another man's poor reputation.

      There are background checks available on the Internet which are fairly 'cheap' (well, a lot cheaper than 2 months of back rent), and I would highly suggest one before you take a random stranger off of the street. Just before you have the right information, such as age and previous addresses.

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  3. "An alumni"? by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 4, Funny

    Latin, motherf*cker, do you speak it?!

    1. Re:"An alumni"? by operagost · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not only that, but you don't need to be an alumnus-- you can be an undergraduate. It was my impression that most of the Facebook users are undergrads.

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  4. No one? by cerberusss · · Score: 2, Insightful
    No one can browse all 9 million registered users."
    No one, except the owning company.
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  5. We don't need another Myspace by thoriphes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are already sites like MySpace and Friendster in the scene, we don't need Facebook to become one of them. The beauty of Facebook was that it was somewhat of a closed community where people were on the same level, if you will. College is a society on its own and Facebook allows the sharing of a lot of commonalities and close-knit ties with people in your campus as well as others. If you open the floodgates for the public, you'll just bring in an onslaught of stalkers (the newsfeed only makes things worse). There's already been quite the resentment for allowing high-schoolers to sign up for Facebook, what now for the common public?

    1. Re:We don't need another Myspace by OakDragon · · Score: 3, Interesting
      The beauty of Facebook was that it was somewhat of a closed community where people were on the same level, if you will. College is a society on its own and Facebook allows the sharing of a lot of commonalities and close-knit ties with people in your campus as well as others.

      I think you hit the nail on the head here. (I know you're right; you agree with me!) This is the way I have observed college students using Facebook. (I haven't been a student for a few years, but I know some.) I think this might actually hurt Facebook in the long run. Call it over-reaching, feature creep or what have you. Companies often kill the golden-egged goose because they begin to want silver and ruby eggs, too.

  6. Let me sum it up by saying... by Billosaur · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...whoop-dee-dooooo! If you find some use for it, great, but the fact is, I can build my own personal web site to do all the communicating with others I need, and I can control the content, and I don't have to worry about the vagueries of someone deciding to change the rules. Facebook, like MySpace, is overrated.

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  7. Coming soon: by shoptroll · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet there's going to be a merger at some point. Coming soon: FaceSpace!

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    1. Re:Coming soon: by andphi · · Score: 3, Funny

      And then, a few merger-generations later, we'll find the weblog ecology split down the middle: FaceSpaceLiveXangaBlogFriender and .Mac.

  8. Humor by SirLestat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look at what I found just this morning, what a coincidence: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1707663. That is also why I try not put any personal information on the web.

  9. Let the Stalking Begin by Deinhard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm much removed from the social networking sites such as FaceBook (by time) and MySpace (by desire) but it seemed to me that the main advantage of FaceBook was that it was a relatively safe place for HS and College students to meet and interact.

    Now, with the addition of millions of potential users, it seems (as others have said) that the site should become MyFaceBook.

    Why can't site operators (even those that pay millions for established market share) realize that they can make a reasonable profit within niche markets? That was the entire purpose behind the original "Virtual Community" concept of the late 90s. People can belong to multiple niches and can receive targeted messages based on the site they are currently visiting.

    I could keep moaning and bitching, but it would just lead to a rant...

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  10. Replace Facebook by dorango · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A group of students decided to replace Facebook with a student built and operated site... If Facebook really has lost touch with its userbase, perhaps these guys can offer a decent alternative to MySpace/Facebook for students. http://digg.com/software/Outraged_Students_Replace _Facebook I signed up, it's a little low on features, but they've only had a week. I think it's something to keep an eye on. -Dorango

    1. Re:Replace Facebook by dorango · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.replacefacebook.com/ -- it seems the Digg link is down.

  11. Facebook's lost touch with its users by BASICman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's beyond me wy Facebook is doing something like this a a week after pissing of at least a ninth of its active membership. Last week browising all the outrage groups that sprung up, many people said that they felt the site lost its way when it let High School students join. While allowing outside access to Facebook is quite clearly the best buisness route to take, the question that comes up is whether or not it alienates its original niche? The immediate answer is no; college sutdents still will use Facebook. But what Facebook fails to remember is that college students (and society in general) are fickle. While you may have them all today, if you make a series of wrong moves and then something (better?) comes along, they'll all ditch you like roadkill.

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    1. Re:Facebook's lost touch with its users by ceejayoz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's like saying that something better than Slashdot is coming, and then posting a Geocities link.

  12. Biggest problem with facebook by falcon5768 · · Score: 2, Informative

    was the fact it NEEDED my university email to allow me to join. My school doesnt allow allum to have free email addresses, only students. While its cheap to get it, I saw no need to have a 5th email address. But facebook refused to let me sign up as a allum without one, so I said fuck it. Maybe if they would understand that not all schools allow thier students to keep emails then maybe more people might sign up to it.

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  13. College students also join regions by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm a college student on Facebook (yes, I'm sure you can find the profile if you look, there's nothing bad on there). I know that I, and many of my facebook friends are in these geographic regions networks as well as college networks. I'm in the Washington, DC one, for example, so that means that now people who just live in DC can view my profile, not just college or high school students from DC. I don't think most college kids realize that.

  14. Townies...!!! by DeusExMalex · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great. Now I get to be harrassed by townies on the Internet, too. Profile = private.

  15. Re:have to be student/alumnus to see profile by finkployd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Riiiight. So please re-read my post.

    Employers can easily find an alumnus (thank you for using the correct plural btw), current student, or staff member, who for a fee (or just because they are friends) will print/save-to-pdf/cut-and-past/etc. job applicant's profiles. Do YOU trust every single person in your university with a university email address?

    Finkployd

  16. No one? by TheSeventh · · Score: 2, Informative

    > No one can browse all 9 million registered users.

    Except of course, for the site owners, and the government. Thanks to GW and the DHS, the government has access to all of Myspace, facebook, friendster, etc. Because you know terrorists are big on facebook. They like to create groups like "Facebook is for infidels" and "I just started a jihad 5 minutes ago".

    Consider anything you put on there easily enough open to anybody. It's not difficult to create university email addresses, which is why places, fake celebrities, and even people's pets and "Delicious Beer" can create profiles on facebook (although facebook has been removing pets and inanimate object profiles).

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  17. Re:Soon? by tmjr3353 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can join regional networks once you're already a member, but you can not sign up through a regional network yet. The drop-down box still only lists: college, high school and work as candidates.

  18. She's a guy! by SeaFox · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'm not looking forward to having random middle-aged men sending me friend requests on facebook (I got these even as a male on myspace, and the college ladies will have their inboxes filled... *shudders*)

    Good thing you added in that parentheseed part, you almost got added as a friend to a bunch of middle aged nerds' user pages!