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Regulation That Could Stifle Video Over the Net?

bb writes to tell us that recent comments made by the FCC could be cause for concern for proponents of internet video. Being considered under the guise of a push against child pornography on the internet, VoN founder Jeff Pulver stated that this is just a warning shot. From the article: "He drew a parallel between this potential regulation and an attempt to ban or restrict Internet voice in 1996, and predicted a long battle and offered to help advocates of rights of IP video innovators. 'The VoN coalition will take people through the stages of what's going to happen,' he said."

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  1. Pipe dreams by Electronik · · Score: 2, Interesting
    a video could be coded so a person watching could run a cursor over the shirt an actor is wearing, right click on it to find out more about it and left click on it to buy it, Pulver said.

    ... as he took another hit from his bong.

    Who is going to sit and encode this information, mapped frame by frame? You would have to encode EVERYTHING in the film this way, otherwise it would be worse than mystery meat navagation, it would be MOVING mystery meat navagation!

    Pulver needs to think things through!
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  2. Re:Can't we just ban children instead? by legoburner · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It does make me wonder how long it will be before some rich person or company buys a few islands, establishes a country and bans children from them (think an almost-permananent vacation spot). I would assume that there are a lot of laws designed to push agendas based on 'protecting the children'and so I bet it would be quite an interesting country that only allows childless people to come and live there, and would certainly have interesting TV!

  3. Summary, 70's style. by Kesch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    *Intended to be read in the voice of a stoned hippie*

    Iternet video is like totally cool and stuff and theres like a bunch of potentail in it and stuff, man. And, uh..., the FCC is like maybe gonna regulate it or something cause you know there could be like child porn and the FCC likes regulating stuff, cause you know this Internet video stuff kinda looks like TV and the FCC regulates that.

    *end hipie*

    Honestly this article is one of the most useless waste of 2 pages I have ever seen. The one time I RTFA and it turns out to contain less information than the ingredient list of the yogurt I'm eating.

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  4. Excuse to control distribution by klui · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The internet has allowed videos/shows to be distributed more easily that can embarrass or harm those in control in the U.S. Just do a search for a show that was to be shown on the Discovery Channel named "Conspiracy of Silence" for instance.

  5. Re:Can't we just ban children instead? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "It does make me wonder how long it will be before some rich person or company buys a few islands, establishes a country and bans children from them..."

    I've often thought we could do something a little 'closer to home' than that.

    We have smoking and non-smoking sections in restaurants. I've always wanted to expand that into children and non-children sections. Sure would make a nice meal much nicer if you didn't have to worry about some inconsiderate parents bringing out a child that is too young to maintain themselves in a public manner.

    I'm not talking about a Chuck E. Cheese's mind you...that is a child oriented place, but, most any other place out there should be free from listening to little Johnny screamin his fool head off, and the parents won't take them out...or letting them walk all over the place "visiting" all the nice other patrons in the restaurant that really have no interested to see the interesting things he has done with a cracker and spit....

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  6. Re:There are places like that already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Minors are allowed in bars with their parents in most states. I think you're confusing bars with strip clubs.

  7. My Take on the whole thing. by KeyThing · · Score: 3, Interesting



    IMHO, the whole deal falls back to people in "power" not fully understanding how things work, thusly fearing them. First VOIP. They feared is, as they did not understand it, and did not know how they would "control" it. They initially thought every kid who could run a linux box at their house would end up being their own telecom. (Not too far from the truth, but hey). Now VOIP has matured, and they're regulated (for the most part).

    Enter (so to speak, it's been around a while) Video "over IP" (man, we can't call it VOIP, and MOIP just sounds weird)... they freak out. They fear people will be broadcasting their own TV shows (lonelygirl?) to the world. Fear of loss of control enters. So, they pull out the big guns. Namely the "child porn" gun.

    Yes. Child porn is illegal. It's wrong. It's bad. It's horrible.

    But Child porn isn't the issue.

    The issue is they don't understand how Streaming media works. They don't understand how they can regulate it. They don't understand how they can make money off of it.

    So, *FUD*, they pull out the kiddie porn gun.

    Education before legislation. That's the key. That's what they're missing.

    As a person who is making a decent living off of Video on the web, I can tell you, I don't feel that much will come of this. I don't think I'll open my mail one day to a C&D Order from the government, nor some big bill from the IRS. I think this one will just blow on over.

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  8. Re:Can't we just ban children instead? by deathy_epl+ccs · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Sure would make a nice meal much nicer if you didn't have to worry about some inconsiderate parents bringing out a child that is too young to maintain themselves in a public manner.

    My daughter has had good restaurant manners since the age of 2. I personally get rather annoyed when we get stuck in a section filled with parents who haven't taught their children to behave just because our daughter is the wrong age. Why should we have to suffer just because some people can't teach their children proper etiquette? She has misbehaved in a restaurant exactly once, at the age of 4. We packed up immediately and left, and she's never done it again.

  9. your words scare me by teh_chrizzle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    you internet hippies with your youspaces and your mytubes... why don't you just let anyone put any freakin thing they want up there? and let other folks see it for free? video media is media of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations. you, sir, are not a corporation! this great united states was built on money and control. why do you hate america? next thing you know there will be videos on the intertubes blaming the government for 9/11, or saying that al qaeda doesn't really exist, and comedians making fun of the president to his face. it'll be hell on earth i tells ya! hell on earth!

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  10. Re:Kiddie Porn! by dfghjk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Keep in mind that, in the US, pornography involving those under 18 years old is illegal. I think that it's safe to say that there are a whole lot of people that have "sexual thoughts about kids" in that context. The US needs bring its age of consent definition in line with the rest of the first world.

    "Does a psychologist here know the numbers on what portion of society is affected by that sickness?"

    None that would care to comment I would guess. There's nothing more taboo than speaking frankly and objectively on that subject. It would certainly help if we could REALLY distiguish between children and young adults who are sexually active.

    A common claim is that viewing child porn is a gateway to child molestation and that all adults drawn to that eventually become predators. Anyone with common sense knows the stupidity of such a claim but that the environment of hysteria that we have. There's no reward for the government in being objective on the matter. On the contrary, it's a great tool in instilling fear in the population.

  11. This is why we need limited government by SonicSpike · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If a government is limited to its most basic and absolute functions, it won't have the power to over-reach its place in society. Big business likes big government because big government has the power to regulate and legislate in favor of big business.

    Anyone out there who really thinks that this legislation is designed to protect children from being victims of porn, is delusional, naive, and misguided. It is simply an excuse to begin legislating and regulating a sector that has previously not been subject to regulation. Why would they want to do this? Because big media wants it that way.

    Look at the sponsors of this, and then goto http://www.opensecrets.org/ and find out who is contributing to them. That might help understand the money trail a bit.

    The libertarians are right on about keeping a small limited government for this very reason.

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  12. Re:Can't we just ban children instead? by shilly · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Two thoughts:
    1) The main reason why American babies cry so much is because the US has a very dysfunctional parenting culture. You want your kids to stop being whiny brats, try not leaving them to scream their lungs out for hours at a time at the age of 3 months. And try hugging them too. Oh, and feeding them with breastmilk when they show signs of being hungry/thirsty. And letting them sleep next to you for the first couple of years of their life, as they are evolved to do. That way they will generally grow up secure, happy and aware that they don't need to immediately scream if they want to have any chance of having their needs met.
    2) That dysfunctional parenting culture is part of a wider culture with some seriously negative attitudes towards kids ... and towards food. In places where good food is standard, kids are welcomed in the poshest of restaurants. Raymond Blanc's Le Manoir Aux Quatr'Saisons is a case in point; see also the whole of Spain, where kids are loved and attended to, and allowed to be kids, and where food is generally good and often great.