Vista RC1 Build 5728 Publicly Released

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Vista RC1 Build 5728 Publicly Released

Posted by ryuzaki0 on Saturday September 23, 2006 @11:27PM from the new-build-out-the-window dept.

ClausValca writes "Doing some late-night surfing last night and came across a post over at Cybernet News: Limited Time Only: Vista 5728 Available To The Public. Although apparently intended for the TAP and Technical Beta Testers....it is available for download to the public via this Microsoft public download page for Vista 5728. There is a link on that page as well for direct download of the latest 64-bit flavor of that version as well. An Ars Technica post also has some background info on the new release. Techweb is reporting that Microsoft is specifically asking for feedback on this release, so make sure and let them know what you think."

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Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by ergo98 · 2006-09-23 23:34 · Score: 5, Insightful

Wasn't there a time when "RC" literally meant release canadidate as in if this works we're burning this exact image on the retail CDs? Nowadays release candidates are really betas, and betas -- which are supposed to be feature complete, almost 100% apps that are only being tested for technical faults, are really alphas, with endless new feature additions and changes.
1. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by ergo98 · 2006-09-24 00:05 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  This isn't an RC.
  
  FTFA:
  
  How does that undermine what I just said? It quite clearly indicates that RC1 was in no way in hell a real RC -- it was a beta. The code diff between RC1 and what actually goes gold with be massive.
2. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by brassman · 2006-09-24 00:07 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  The explanation given is that they've frozen the API, and you are safe to develop against it. To the extent that is true, the "RC" designation would seem to be justified.
  
  (In other news, I have this bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan, for sale cheap. Paypal accepted!)
  
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  "Ain't no right way to do a wrong thing."
3. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by tomhudson · 2006-09-24 00:16 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  Freezing the API does NOT mean its a release candidate in anyone's universe except Microsofts'.
  A release candidate should be what the term implies - something that is actually a candidate for release as the final product, not something that you throw over the wall and hope that it stinks a bit less than the previous attempts.
  That they're still beta testing should tell you something about how much their development culture continues to suck.
  So, download it early, download it often, and help artificially inflate those "look at the interest" numbers ... just don't install this trojan:
  In addition, once you install Windows Vista RC1, you cannot roll back to the previous operating system installation--you will either have to acquire and install the final released edition of Windows Vista or reinstall a previous edition of Windows
  
  Nice way of getting people to forget that XP already does everything they need, and locking them into having to buy an upgrade at retail prices.
4. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by Guppy06 · 2006-09-24 01:05 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  "In addition, once you install Windows Vista RC1, you cannot roll back to the previous operating system installation--you will either have to acquire and install the final released edition of Windows Vista or reinstall a previous edition of Windows"
  
  That's interesting, considering that Windows XP will let you roll back to the previous operating system.
5. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by neoform · 2006-09-24 05:05 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Let's be honest, given how often you have to reinstall windows, does anyone ever really use the "rollback" feature?
  
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6. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by fotbr · 2006-09-24 05:48 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  Hmm....I've reinstalled XP on this machine how many times in the last 5 years? Thats right. NONE. The ancient 450mhz K6-2 laptop? NONE. And the Win2k machine in the corner? Yup, NONE. How many times have I used the "rollback" feature? NONE -- that was the first thing I turned off.
  
  Now, the Win95/98/ME line, yeah, those were POS OSs that you had to reinstall every month or so. And I understand Joe-sixpack is more likely to click on random "bad things". But has it occured to you that maybe, just maybe, Windows has improved, and that many (but not all) of the problems aren't from windows, but from the layers of shit that people pile on it (Norton, I'm looking directly at you).
  
  Because you haven't used windows since Win98, please stop spewing lines that are no longer true.
Link to 64-bit edition by unixmaster · 2006-09-23 23:35 · Score: 5, Informative

For the lazy ones like me http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc1/en/x6 4/iso/vista_5728.16387.060917-1430_x64fre_client-L RMCxFRE_EN_DVD.iso

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Not RC1 by the+linux+geek · 2006-09-23 23:37 · Score: 3, Informative

This build is not RC1, it's part of the RTM tree. They're currently up to 5731, and this build is about a week old.
Re:How long? by Anonymous Coward · 2006-09-23 23:38 · Score: 4, Informative

It locks mid next year
Direct ISO Download Link by in2mind · 2006-09-23 23:38 · Score: 3, Informative

http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc1/en/x8 6/iso/vista_5728.16387.060917-1430_x86fre_client-l rmcfre_en_dvd.iso

X86 version.

File size: 2622MB
Type: 32-bit
Name: vista_5728.16387.060917-1430_x86fre_client-lrmcfre _en_dvd.iso
Build Number: 5728.16387

Note: Your Beta 2/RC1 product keys will still be valid for this version.

************** From TFA *************

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Feedback by QuantumFTL · 2006-09-23 23:50 · Score: 4, Funny

Techweb is reporting that Microsoft is specifically asking for feedback on this release, so make sure and let them know what you think.

Probably a bit too late to ask for POSIX interoperability, eh?
1. Re:Feedback by TheNetAvenger · 2006-09-24 04:17 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Probably a bit too late to ask for POSIX interoperability, eh?
  
  Ya, considering they have been POSIX compliant since NT was built in 1992...
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?Fa milyID=896c9688-601b-44f1-81a4-02878ff11778&Displa yLang=en
  
  BTW Vista and Longhorn Server ship with a full BSD *nix subsystem (minus an XServer.)
  
  Nothing new to see here, move along...
How to get a valid license key by Anonymous Coward · 2006-09-23 23:54 · Score: 4, Informative

Over here: http://ctrinity.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/how-to-ge t-your-vista-rc1-product-key/
Re:How long? by brassman · 2006-09-24 00:01 · Score: 4, Informative

June 2007. (I see an AC replied but he has a score of zero, so I don't feel completely redundant posting this at 2.)

Had this puppy for a week already and may actually get around to installing it, this time....

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"Ain't no right way to do a wrong thing."
"... let them know what you think." by Anonymous Coward · 2006-09-24 00:02 · Score: 3, Interesting

I think I don't need it. I would have to buy new computers to use it and I don't see any benefit to justify the expense. In past, I've upgraded when there was some benefit to be gained. For instance, I went to Windows (3.1) in the first place so I could run CorelDraw. I could do stuff that previously had been available only to Mac users. The choice was clear cut and I was delighted to switch.

Microsoft alienated me with the first commercial release of XP. You couldn't change anything about your computer without calling them for a new authorization number. There were also the rumors that XP was 'calling home' with information about what was on your hard drive. I vowed that XP would never enter my house and never sully my work computer. I switched to Linux. It does everything I need done. Why would I switch.

My wife's computer runs Win98. If it weren't for OpenOffice, she would have to switch to be able to read files that her customers send her. As it is, OpenOffice reads all those files just fine, so she doesn't have to switch either.

Microsoft is going to have trouble selling Vista. They are also having legal trouble in Europe. Their response is to say that the economy will be boosted if everyone switches to Vista. http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000097 They're nothing if not creative. But no thanks anyway Bill.
Re:Plays nice with boot loaders? by tomhudson · 2006-09-24 00:06 · Score: 3, Informative

Short answer - it doesn't even play nicely with other versins of windows.
In addition, once you install Windows Vista RC1, you cannot roll back to the previous operating system installation--you will either have to acquire and install the final released edition of Windows Vista or reinstall a previous edition of Windows

This is their way of getting people to nuke their current XP installs, then having to buy the final version of Vista by July 1st.
Re:Change Log by tomhudson · 2006-09-24 00:25 · Score: 4, Funny

I wish they wrote A ChangeLog.txt like most of the people in the biz.

They did - and they saved it in Word format, and its corrupted. So far, 3 employees have been wounded by flying chairs for suggesting they use OpenOffice to open and re-save it.
The kind of feedback they're looking for by justinkim · 2006-09-24 00:44 · Score: 3, Funny

And just so everyone is clear, 'Replace this steaming pile with Ubuntu" is probably *not* the kind of feedback Microsoft is looking for ;)
Re:My experience with Vista by Anonymous Coward · 2006-09-24 00:49 · Score: 5, Insightful

Good god man,

If you give up that quickly on Windows, an OS that often takes the approach of insulating users from functionality through a very fine-tuned UI aimed for maximum user friendliness, then I hate to think what must have happened when you tried an OS that takes a "more power to the user" ideology, like say, "Linux"?

Step 1: Install Linux
Step 2: Try to compile something
Step 3: It breaks, throw-away Linux in absolute disgust
Step 4: Return to pre-configured Microsoft Bob, where it's safe.

To further add to the absurdity of the previous post, the code you are using is _NOT_ finished. I'm not defending Windows, just preaching common sense. It's quite possible it could have been a bug specific to the users setup.

It's uninformative, ridiculous comments like the former that harm Slashdot, offering a stereotypical Windows bashing with no real merit, contributing nothing.
Re:Product Key by ben+there... · 2006-09-24 01:21 · Score: 3, Informative

You'll need a product key from here. Pull down "select your location" in the Download section. Fill out some stuff and you get a product key.
Re:DRM and OpenGL? by baadger · 2006-09-24 02:16 · Score: 3, Informative

nVidia's latest driver's for Vista include an "OpenGL driver for compatibility testing.". OpenGL won't be a problem, it'll be provided by third party drivers like it always has been, there just won't be any software fallback provided by MS (OpenGL in software is useless anyway).

As for DRM, well. Nothing in Vista itself is going to prevent you from copying DVD's, software or music or any other such thing. Windows Media files will still be protected of course, and HDCP will HAVE to be built into all HD-DVD/Blu-ray drives and decoders (read: the hardware) for you to watch this material.

The DRM issue with respect to Vista is all mythic. The only true rights taken away from you in Vista compared to XP are in the 64bit (x64) edition, under which, you cannot install unsigned drivers (unless you add an option to the Vista bootloader which isn't that difficult).
Gah!! by Klaidas · 2006-09-24 04:46 · Score: 3, Funny

So, I'm half way there downloading Vista's RC1, and a new release gets, um... released?!