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Vista RC1 Build 5728 Publicly Released

ClausValca writes "Doing some late-night surfing last night and came across a post over at Cybernet News: Limited Time Only: Vista 5728 Available To The Public. Although apparently intended for the TAP and Technical Beta Testers....it is available for download to the public via this Microsoft public download page for Vista 5728. There is a link on that page as well for direct download of the latest 64-bit flavor of that version as well. An Ars Technica post also has some background info on the new release. Techweb is reporting that Microsoft is specifically asking for feedback on this release, so make sure and let them know what you think."

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  1. Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wasn't there a time when "RC" literally meant release canadidate as in if this works we're burning this exact image on the retail CDs? Nowadays release candidates are really betas, and betas -- which are supposed to be feature complete, almost 100% apps that are only being tested for technical faults, are really alphas, with endless new feature additions and changes.

    1. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by ergo98 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      This isn't an RC.

      FTFA:

      How does that undermine what I just said? It quite clearly indicates that RC1 was in no way in hell a real RC -- it was a beta. The code diff between RC1 and what actually goes gold with be massive.
    2. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Freezing the API does NOT mean its a release candidate in anyone's universe except Microsofts'.

      A release candidate should be what the term implies - something that is actually a candidate for release as the final product, not something that you throw over the wall and hope that it stinks a bit less than the previous attempts.

      That they're still beta testing should tell you something about how much their development culture continues to suck.

      So, download it early, download it often, and help artificially inflate those "look at the interest" numbers ... just don't install this trojan:

      In addition, once you install Windows Vista RC1, you cannot roll back to the previous operating system installation--you will either have to acquire and install the final released edition of Windows Vista or reinstall a previous edition of Windows

      Nice way of getting people to forget that XP already does everything they need, and locking them into having to buy an upgrade at retail prices.

    3. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Informative

      "In addition, once you install Windows Vista RC1, you cannot roll back to the previous operating system installation--you will either have to acquire and install the final released edition of Windows Vista or reinstall a previous edition of Windows"

      That's interesting, considering that Windows XP will let you roll back to the previous operating system.

    4. Re:Beta is the new Alpha and RC is the new Beta by fotbr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hmm....I've reinstalled XP on this machine how many times in the last 5 years? Thats right. NONE. The ancient 450mhz K6-2 laptop? NONE. And the Win2k machine in the corner? Yup, NONE. How many times have I used the "rollback" feature? NONE -- that was the first thing I turned off.

      Now, the Win95/98/ME line, yeah, those were POS OSs that you had to reinstall every month or so. And I understand Joe-sixpack is more likely to click on random "bad things". But has it occured to you that maybe, just maybe, Windows has improved, and that many (but not all) of the problems aren't from windows, but from the layers of shit that people pile on it (Norton, I'm looking directly at you).

      Because you haven't used windows since Win98, please stop spewing lines that are no longer true.

  2. Link to 64-bit edition by unixmaster · · Score: 5, Informative
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    Never learn by your mistakes, if you do you may never dare to try again
  3. Re:How long? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    It locks mid next year

  4. Feedback by QuantumFTL · · Score: 4, Funny

    Techweb is reporting that Microsoft is specifically asking for feedback on this release, so make sure and let them know what you think.

    Probably a bit too late to ask for POSIX interoperability, eh?

    1. Re:Feedback by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably a bit too late to ask for POSIX interoperability, eh?

      Ya, considering they have been POSIX compliant since NT was built in 1992...

      http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?Fa milyID=896c9688-601b-44f1-81a4-02878ff11778&Displa yLang=en

      BTW Vista and Longhorn Server ship with a full BSD *nix subsystem (minus an XServer.)

      Nothing new to see here, move along...

  5. How to get a valid license key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  6. Re:How long? by brassman · · Score: 4, Informative

    June 2007. (I see an AC replied but he has a score of zero, so I don't feel completely redundant posting this at 2.)

    Had this puppy for a week already and may actually get around to installing it, this time....

    --
    "Ain't no right way to do a wrong thing."
  7. Re:Change Log by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wish they wrote A ChangeLog.txt like most of the people in the biz.

    They did - and they saved it in Word format, and its corrupted. So far, 3 employees have been wounded by flying chairs for suggesting they use OpenOffice to open and re-save it.

  8. Re:My experience with Vista by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good god man,

    If you give up that quickly on Windows, an OS that often takes the approach of insulating users from functionality through a very fine-tuned UI aimed for maximum user friendliness, then I hate to think what must have happened when you tried an OS that takes a "more power to the user" ideology, like say, "Linux"?

    Step 1: Install Linux
    Step 2: Try to compile something
    Step 3: It breaks, throw-away Linux in absolute disgust
    Step 4: Return to pre-configured Microsoft Bob, where it's safe.

    To further add to the absurdity of the previous post, the code you are using is _NOT_ finished. I'm not defending Windows, just preaching common sense. It's quite possible it could have been a bug specific to the users setup.

    It's uninformative, ridiculous comments like the former that harm Slashdot, offering a stereotypical Windows bashing with no real merit, contributing nothing.