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.mobi Websites Now Available to Register

Jaruzel writes to mention a BBC article about the availability of .mobi addresses for registration. The new TLD is intended to give a home to websites specifically formatted for mobile devices. From the article: "MTLD is promising that websites with a registered dotmobi address will be optimized for mobile phones, guaranteeing users a consistent experience. It costs about $25 (£14) to register a dotmobi site for a minimum two-year period. Oliver said that while he agreed with the need to improve the mobile web experience, promises of a 'consistent experience' did not always equate with reality."

149 comments

  1. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A worthless TLD just for mobile phones! It's about time.

    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if this works globally, but at least Nokia site has been up for a while AFAIK.

  2. Oh good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another useless TLD that no one will bother with, except for the spammers and the phishers.

    So, who's going to be the first to register dick.mobi, or would that be against terms of service as "vulgar and/or profane"

    1. Re:Oh good. by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      Just start banning *.mobi senders on your email server. I am.

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  3. The laziest way to make money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Need money? let's just create a new TLD!

    1. Re:The laziest way to make money by chroot_james · · Score: 1

      I'd like to start a trolling tld. Want to help? We can make a ton! I'll call it .sco!

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    2. Re:The laziest way to make money by Stupidity+is+Dumb · · Score: 1

      Actually that would be a FLD or maybe an ETLD

    3. Re:The laziest way to make money by Cecil · · Score: 1

      TLD stands for "Top Level Domain", not "Three Letter Domain".

    4. Re:The laziest way to make money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who is the douchebag above that keeps linking to my page and spamming all these comments?

  4. Duuuhhhhh by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why not just use "mobi.ibm.com", for example - why do we need a TLD for this? It's not like there's going to be millions of .mobi sites.

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    1. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So they can make a metric pantload of money selling everyone's trademarked and otherwise in-demand names back to them again.

    2. Re:Duuuhhhhh by ElleyKitten · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Why not just use "mobi.ibm.com", for example - why do we need a TLD for this? It's not like there's going to be millions of .mobi sites.
      Because ibm.mobi is shorter to type than mobi.ibm.com (mobiles don't have the best keyboards), and so that mobiles can default or have a shortcut key for .mobi so that people can get to sites that their phone can handle with even less typing.
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    3. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because typing those extra characters on a little keypad sucks. This way you could just type ibm and hit ok and it'd guess at .mobi first.

      On a side note, weather.mobi kicks weather.com's ass.

    4. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Personally, I love my site readers, but I really don't feel the need to enrich registrars more than I already am just so they can push four fewer buttons to get to me. I'd like to think my content is interesting enough to be worth pushing those four buttons. (Disclaimer: it isn't.)

      Besides, wasn't it supposed to be a part of the whole XHTML/CSS revolution that a weak handheld could easily extract and adapt bog-standard site content?

    5. Re:Duuuhhhhh by ameoba · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If they're concerned about making things easy for mobile devices, which usually have somewhat limited input facilities, then wouldn't they pick a 2 or 3 letter TLD instead of 4? If they were concerned about ease of typing this in, they wouldn't have put M & O next to eachother (look at your cellphone).

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    6. Re:Duuuhhhhh by jginspace · · Score: 1

      Why not just use "mobi.ibm.com", for example - why do we need a TLD for this?



      Exactly. www.dotmobi.org tells us at the bottom that "the official site is available at MTLD.MOBI" ... and when you go to mtld.mobi it takes you to ... pc.mtld.mobi ... I presume if you changed your user agent to something suitable it would take you to the subdomain for a pocketpc or palmos or whatever. Just like it should be done.

    7. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why not just use "mobi.ibm.com", for example - why do we need a TLD for this? It's not like there's going to be millions of .mobi sites.
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    8. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny

      Because .mob was already set aside for organized-crime-related domains.

    9. Re:Duuuhhhhh by MoOsEb0y · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If they were truly optimizing for mobiles, they would have done two things: 1. they would have composed the domain name entirely of letters that come up first on the keypad when you push a button (i.e. a,d,g,j,m,p,t,w). 2. It wouldn't be 4 letters long

    10. Re:Duuuhhhhh by cmorriss · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, we do need this. Web sites have had years to create an obvious standard for the mobile version of web sites. Guess what? It never happened. This creates one. Now, it will be very easy for someone on a mobile phone to find the mobile version of there favorite site.

      If you've ever tried surfing the web on a mobile, you would understand the hope this finally brings to that current mess.

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    11. Re:Duuuhhhhh by garcia · · Score: 1

      How about IBM just adds mobile web stuff to IBM.com which automatically detects the mobile connection and serves the proper content?

      ibm.com is shorter to type than ibm.mobi ;)

      I have a script that converts letters to numbers (dollar word) at http://lazylightning.org/dollar -- it works for regular browsers and mobile ones (WAP) so people can use it from the field when they are geocaching.

      It's fairly easy to do with a couple of simple lines in your HTML and your http.conf.

    12. Re:Duuuhhhhh by cortana · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ibm.com is shorter than both.

    13. Re:Duuuhhhhh by pbrammer · · Score: 1

      But since I'm on a mobile device, wouldn't it make more sense to have the tld be "m," or something like that? I mean why four characters? ibm.m is even shorter yet.

    14. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      That's a vaild point. However, it would also be trivial to mobile browsers default to adding ".mobi" to the end of any "naked" domain name a user types in - so eg you type in "ibm" and it automatically assumes that you mean "ibm.mobi".

      Apart from that, yeah, having "m" and "o" together isn't the best of ideas, and is "mob" really that harder to understand than "mobi" that it's worth the extra character? Couldn't they have used ".wap"? (Yes, it would make it appear that it's tied to a particular tech, but it's easier to type, shorter, and associated with mobiles already...)

    15. Re:Duuuhhhhh by maxume · · Score: 1

      As long as 'we' consists of people desperate to surf the internet on their mobile phone. I get that checking email and the like is a nice convenience, but pretty much everything can wait.

      A week without access isn't a big deal, and it seems that most companies have embraced this attitude, and don't bother with the 17 people that are frustrated by the lack of a mobile version of their websites. Apparently, Opera does a pretty good job of rendering down real content, and there are also proxies that do much the same thing.

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    16. Re:Duuuhhhhh by flumps · · Score: 1

      .. and ".cell" was used up by all the prisoners..

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    17. Re:Duuuhhhhh by bano · · Score: 1

      No they are saving that so they can sell us .a-.z in the next few years. So making it .m will be counter to that at the moment.

    18. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Funny

      We need it so that Herman Melville can put his whaling epic up on dick.mobi, why else?

    19. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not like there's going to be millions of .mobi sites.

      Hello, 2016? 2006 wants its myopia back.

      It's not like there's going to be millions of bytes of RAM in a computer...

    20. Re:Duuuhhhhh by badfish99 · · Score: 1

      This doesn't work for me (Opera 9 with the user agent set to emulate Internet Explorer). So I get a crappy-looking page that I suppose is intended to be viewed on a mobile phone.
      Since the page is utterly devoid of useful content, all they've done they've convinced me that browing from a mobile phone is going to be an unpleasant experience.

    21. Re:Duuuhhhhh by L33t+Windozer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hereby proclaim: All questions "Why do we need" are from now on to be responded with "because".

    22. Re:Duuuhhhhh by kayditty · · Score: 1

      or very close to a certain disparaging term; not that I care, but some people do.

    23. Re:Duuuhhhhh by jginspace · · Score: 1

      Clarifying my own post...

      I just set the user agent to that used by my phone and the address stayed at mtld.mobi and presented a simple yellowy/turquoise screen aimed at mobile devices. So that's kind of an inverse world that's been created. Instead of google.com, ibm.com serving up 'normal' pages at those addresses and special pages at mobi.google.com, mobi.ibm.com, we get the opposite side of the coin where mtld.mobi is serving up 'normal' pages ... for mobiles ... and 'special' pages for the bigger machines at domains like pc.mtld.mobi

      (for anyone interested the mobile page is 2k and contains ten tiny images)

    24. Re:Duuuhhhhh by pato101 · · Score: 1

      Nevertheless it is stupid to have 4 characters, since mobile input is very slow and painful. IMHO ".m" or ".mb" might have been better choices

    25. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1
      Nevertheless it is stupid to have 4 characters, since mobile input is very slow and painful. IMHO ".m" or ".mb" might have been better choices
      I think they want to save the two-letter TLDs for country codes. As for .m, could you imagine the total insane gold rush there would be on a one-letter TLD? Think of everyone with a name or word ending in "m" fighting it out for the right to throw buckets of money at the registrars. Come to think of it, I'm surprised they haven't tried it already.
    26. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      wasn't it supposed to be a part of the whole XHTML/CSS revolution that a weak handheld could easily extract and adapt bog-standard site content?

      Yes, but unfortunately the world's most "popular" browser still hasn't joined that revolution, so it kind of never took off and people stuck with antiquated and inaccessible technologies like table-based layouts.

    27. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every browser I've used on a mobile already has a shortcut for entering .com/net/org.

    28. Re:Duuuhhhhh by benplaut · · Score: 1

      But i want dick.mobi!

    29. Re:Duuuhhhhh by cashman73 · · Score: 1

      So if ibm.mobi is shorter to type than mobi.ibm.com , why didn't they just go with the ultimate shortest TLD (e.g. ibm.m )?

    30. Re:Duuuhhhhh by lababidi · · Score: 1
    31. Re:Duuuhhhhh by xx_toran_xx · · Score: 1

      No, not at all. It's just that every domain available on the .mob TLD has already been bought by the RIAA

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    32. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like wap maybe?

    33. Re:Duuuhhhhh by mattmatt · · Score: 1

      ".cell" would sort of go against the whole "internationalness" of the internet, wouldn't it?

    34. Re:Duuuhhhhh by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

      I remember they agreed on crime.org in a meeting. (Simpsons, Duh)

    35. Re:Duuuhhhhh by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      It's not like there's going to be millions of .mobi sites.
      That sounds like the sort of statement that could come back to haunt you.
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  5. Too long by mancontr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they're for mobile phones, wich usually don't have complete keyboard, doesn't it make sense to use a shorter TLD? A 4-letter one will be a pain to type for each site...

    1. Re:Too long by ElleyKitten · · Score: 1
      If they're for mobile phones, wich usually don't have complete keyboard, doesn't it make sense to use a shorter TLD? A 4-letter one will be a pain to type for each site...
      I imagine if .mobi gets popular, mobiles will default to .mobi or have a shortcut key for it.
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    2. Re:Too long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yep, complete failure. M and O are both on the 6 key, so you need to pause before the O if you don't use T9. Com isn't better in that regard, but at least it's shorter, so even though it wasn't created for mobile applications, unlike mobi, it's actually the better choice.

    3. Re:Too long by bWareiWare.co.uk · · Score: 1

      Not to mention on most phones you have to pause after 'm', to type an 'o' (which is itself three presses). For a total of 9 key-preses and a pause. WAP was three keys, no pause!

      If WAP was more thought through then this, it tells you something about how likely it is to be a success.

    4. Re:Too long by war2k1 · · Score: 1

      or hell, i'd just be happy with a domain that doesn't require someone to enter two adjacent letters that share a key when using multitap (e.g. mo in mobi or om in com)

      how about net? or org? all those letters on different keys, so nice.

      or, even better, how about .dam? lets us enter just the first char on multitap....

      sure, a mobile domain is great, but how about making is usable on a mobile phone...

    5. Re:Too long by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      Not only that, m and o are both on the 6 key. Not good.

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    6. Re:Too long by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Should be just ".mob"... because the mob rules!

    7. Re:Too long by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      On every phone I've used in the last few years, you've been able to press the right arrow (or equivalent) to avoid the pause. Of course, then you're swapping the pause for another key press...

  6. Oh well by cubicledrone · · Score: 1, Funny

    Everything sux. Cue 500 comments about how TLDs suck, computers suck and websites suck. Throw in a smartass comment about Flash just for spite. Season with bitching about spam and blogs to taste. Stir lightly. Serve with vegetable side.

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    1. Re:Oh well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Also cue the huffy holier-than-thou comment bitching about all the other comments... oh, wait.

    2. Re:Oh well by oc255 · · Score: 1

      Despite the obvious sarcasm, the first thing I thought was ".mobi is evidence DNS is broken". No one's .com blog is commercial, the xxx stuff won't work for the common good and .mobi is 4/6th of mobile. s/sux/broken/ although it's a "broken" system that's working.

    3. Re:Oh well by techpawn · · Score: 0

      Roast over a low flamebait tag until troll is back under it's bridge

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    4. Re:Oh well by Windows+Breaker+G4 · · Score: 1

      BUT I WANT CHIPS AS MY SIDE DAMN IT! In all seriousness you deserve a metal for best post of the year i think.

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    5. Re:Oh well by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I believe part of the reasoning behind .mobi is that domain owners can have their domain name revoked if they use it to host content that is not HTML/CSS compliant and won't degrade properly on small-screen devices.

      Some top-level domains are properly policed. Try getting a .edu for your blog, for example (or a .ac.uk if you are rightpondian). I agree .com is in a sorry state though; it's become the web equivalent of USENET's alt.*, but with a less meaningful name.

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    6. Re:Oh well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Queue misuse of homophone, then loose mind over wrong use of loose.

    7. Re:Oh well by humble.fool · · Score: 1

      but .com is simply "commercial", and you can't deny that that's what most sites on the .com TDL are.

      Looks like it worked to me.

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    8. Re:Oh well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BUT I WANT CHIPS AS MY SIDE DAMN IT! In all seriousness you deserve a metal for best post of the year i think.
      You deserve a medal for using metal instead of medal. (Although it is true most medals are made of metal.
    9. Re:Oh well by Windows+Breaker+G4 · · Score: 1

      oops. Thats what i get for posting when i first wake up

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  7. I wonder... by aliendisaster · · Score: 1

    I wonder if all those crazy people that wanted to try and put all internet porn on .xxx tld's are pissed that thier worthless tld didnt go through but an even more worthless tld (.mobi) did?

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  8. The .mobi site could do with updating.... by REBloomfield · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "It is not yet possible to register .mobi domains. Dot Mobi domains will be registered through ICANN accredited registrars. Please check back to this page for updates on when and where to register .mobi domains" - right underneath the big register button....

    1. Re:The .mobi site could do with updating.... by Afecks · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you read on you will see that they are having a period of registration for trademark holders to secure their .mobi domains. General registration for everyone else will be open October 11th, 2006.

    2. Re:The .mobi site could do with updating.... by DanEsparza · · Score: 1

      Here is the .mobi information page on GoDaddy's website: http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/tlds/mobi.asp?isc=go omobi01a

  9. The solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is obviously a special "Mobi" brand key licensed at a special low rate to phone makers.

  10. This is just record-industry hype. by Peter+Trepan · · Score: 3, Funny

    They're rolling out this top-level domain to generate publicity for Mobi's new album.

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  11. dick.mobi.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is already taken.

  12. Missing the point by djuuss · · Score: 0

    There area already websites optimised for viewing with mobile phone. That this new TLD comes with a package of standards your website should live up to for mobile phone viewability is a Good Thing, but the main problem that going on the internet with your mobile has, is cost and bandwith, just like TFA says. Still, because this will get media coverage and be advertised by phone providers it could mean an increased number of people from the 'general public' will get interested and start using the technology, which could drive down the prices and encourage providers to try and increase the bandwith.

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  13. I thought Eminem would be pissed by MrMonty · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    At first I thought, "Eminem will be pissed", until I found out Myanmar's TLD is .mm

    Monty

  14. The web is broken by MasterC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When a new TLD is created because of a style issue: the web is broken. This approach of splitting mobile content from "normal" content is the wrong way to do this. CSS has media types and a media type of "handheld" FOR EXACTLY THIS PURPOSE!

    The only benefit to .mobi is to be cash cow for the registrar. That's it. A properly design site should take advantage of the already existing method for handling this very situation. The website should change to me, not the other way around.

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    1. Re:The web is broken by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is changing the CSS sufficient? I'd imagine that for handheld devices, you want to change more than just the formatting. You'd want to deliver fewer bits overall (because of limited bandwidth), and possibly less content per page (because of small screen sizes).

      That's not just a formatting change; that's a radical restructuring of the way you'd want to design the web site. I don't think you can accomplish all that with CSS.

    2. Re:The web is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yep. You shouldn't be using all those div tags anyway. And definitely not all those layout tables.
      If your site absolutely has to look a particular way that you can't just render with a minimal set of tags... maybe you should rethink trying to make your site look that way.

    3. Re:The web is broken by MasterC · · Score: 3, Interesting
      That's not just a formatting change; that's a radical restructuring of the way you'd want to design the web site. I don't think you can accomplish all that with CSS.


      Touche. It won't reduce the bandwidth but you can easily hide your content. Some sites look *radically* different with and without style. For example, if you have the web developer extension for Firefox (or something equivalent) then hit up mozilla.org and then disable the styles (if not then copy the HTML into a blank page and strip off the link tags). There's two approaches here: minimal HTML design and dress it up with CSS (which is what mozilla.org does) or layout your entire site in HTML (as is usually done) and fine-tune with CSS. As of this writing, mozilla.org is 2796 bytes (excluding style sheets but including the links to them) but you might be deceived of that number by looking at the page.

      If I can't claim brokenness on improper use of style then I do so on the user agent not being wholly reliable. If it was then you could switch your output *at render time* instead of at the virtual host level of your web server.

      My point was that there are definitely ways to solve this issue without resorting to a new TLD with $25/year fees. Otherwise we better start .print for printing pages and .jsfree for javascript-free pages. It's wholly the wrong approach and the fact that it's being done indicates it's broken.
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    4. Re:The web is broken by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Agreed there. The idea that foo.mobi should be owned by anybody except the owner of foo.com is ludicrous and clearly a money-grab. I strongly advise against buying anything except .com domains in the US.

      The other reason I've seen for .mobi is that a handheld device could automatically add it, saving keystrokes, which are more difficult on a tiny device. Well, web browsers regularly route "example" to www.example.com, and could just as easily turn "example" into "mobi.example.com" (and fall back to www.example.com if that fails)

      Domain registrars piss me off; just today I had to route through three pages of upselling to renew my damn domain. Not quite as much as domain squatters, but they're up there.

    5. Re:The web is broken by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

      This approach of splitting mobile content from "normal" content is the wrong way to do this CSS has media types and a media type of "handheld" FOR EXACTLY THIS PURPOSE!.... A properly design site should take advantage of the already existing method for handling this very situation. The website should change to me, not the other way around.

      I agree the site should adapt to you. But if you honesly believe the same content can seamlessly be presented on completely different media only via the use of a different CSS, you're living in the web utopia.

      Sites which use CSS media to present to a mobile device is either a site with not much content, or has half of its content hidden via CSS to fit the mobile screen. And this is hardly what you want with the kind of costs and speed of mobile internet.

      Just like you can't scale a mobile phone up and get a desktop computer, or scale down a PC tower case and get a laptop, sites need a certain amount of dedicated interface design for the devices they target.

      It doesn't mean you have to maintain each of them separately or buy pointless "mobi" domains. RoR and related frameworks have it right:

      - you fetch the information internally from the same sources using the same code\
      - you detect the user agent / device and present a specialized view to them

    6. Re:The web is broken by fbjon · · Score: 1
      and could just as easily turn "example" into "mobi.example.com"
      How would you go about making a standard out of this hack? A standard that, say, all phones could use?
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    7. Re:The web is broken by PW2 · · Score: 1

      On thing I've tried is to make a function in ASP or PHP called IsPDA() which I believe takes a look at the server variable "HTTP_USER_AGENT" and if "palm" or "pocketpc" (or something like that) is present then it will return true.

      The template for my simple website then will remove left/right columns, show photo thumbnails in 1 column instead of 4 columns, etc. if IsPDA() returns true.

      I forget to test with a PDA, so I make no guarantees as to whether or not it still works perfectly, but the idea does work.

    8. Re:The web is broken by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Is it any more of a hack than assuming that "google" typed into a cell phone/wireless PDA means "google.mobi"? Even with the imprimatur of having a TLD, I'm not aware of any standard that endorses the shortcut.

      It's a convenience of the device, and if enough device manufacturers make it policy, it becomes convention. Convention is usually more important than standard, but de facto conventions can become de jure standards with an RFP.

      Beyond that, it's really not necessary for all phones to apply to the standard. We really are talking about a hack in the first place, whether it's adding ".mobi" or adding "mobi.###.com".

      And it's easier than the hack you get when foo.com and foo.net start competing for foo.mobi. That's a hack that can only be solved with legal arbitration and/or money paid up to squatters. And I reeeeeally hate squatters.

  15. listed on any registrars by brunascle · · Score: 1

    anyone know of any registrars already seeting .mobi? i wouldnt mind picking one up, just for fun.

    1. Re:listed on any registrars by aliendisaster · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:listed on any registrars by brunascle · · Score: 2, Informative

      thanks.

      ironically, pc.mtld.mobi looks like a very mobile-unfriendly site. let's hope it has a different display for a different user agent.

      and according to Go Daddy: General Registrations begins on October 11, 2006 (7AM PT).

  16. get your censorship here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DotMobi CEO Neil Edwards (previously in charge of .com domains) told us that the company was going to be firm with anyone that didn't follow the guidelines drawn up and would suspend any site that didn't comply

    all for that low low price , buy now !

  17. Sounds a bit lame... by grub · · Score: 3, Funny


    goatse.mobi just doesn't roll off the tongue.

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  18. Got mine by tygerstripes · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Bagsy "dick.mobi" /coat

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  19. Why not just ".mob"? by erykjj · · Score: 1

    .mobi sounds so, well, you know...

    1. Re:Why not just ".mob"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The mafia objected.

  20. long TLDs by hey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At least the useless TLD are four letters or more.
    Makes it easy for program to classify them.

    1. Re:long TLDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .biz

  21. Proprietry intarweb alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My web sites (XHTML1 strict, CSS), have displayed fine on mobile devices for years. Why do we need a TLD for mobile devices and why do the cell phone companies need to be involved with the W3C? These fuckheads are trying to build a parrellel proprietry web are they?

  22. Already done! by Square+Snow+Man · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most companies already have a mobile friendly version of there website. For example: http://www.google.com/pda

  23. Longer URL by rad_chad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, in order to use this TLD, which is designed for mobile devices with generally akward methods of input...you have to type a longer URL than normal. If this is supposed to be useful why not: "website.m". Google has it right with http://m.gmail.com/

  24. How many people use it? by DG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My wife got me a Palm LifeDrive for our 10th wedding anniversary. Comes with 4Gb of native storage, and built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.

    With a wireless access point in the house, this had actually proven to be pretty useful - the web in the palm of your hand!

    But the number of sites that provide any sort of mobile-device support is minescule. Slashdot itself renders in Blazer (the Palm browser) as a single 1 character wide column of text.

    If Slashdot can't do it, do you expect the rest of the world to get it right?

    At least with a .mobi domain, you know the page will render correctly.

    How many people actually develop sites for the .mobi domain is an other kettle of fish entirely.

    DG

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    1. Re:How many people use it? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      If Slashdot can't do it, do you expect the rest of the world to get it right?

      Yes. Slashcode is a horrible mess of Perl that never created standards-compliant HTML. After a lot of refactoring, it now generates valid HTML 4.01 Strict, but this took a lot of work by the developers. Getting it to work nicely on other devices is probably the next step.

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    2. Re:How many people use it? by zerocool^ · · Score: 1


      1.) http://slashdot.org/palm

      2.) My phone renders slashdot-minus-CSS just fine. It's a T-Mobile Sidekick II. Without the CSS, the page is perfectly readable.

      (to get an idea of what it looks like, in firefox, "View" - "Page Style" - No Style)

      ~X

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    3. Re:How many people use it? by coreyb · · Score: 1

      I use blazer on a TX - try http://slashdot.org/palm/ (didn't see a link to it anywhere, but when a site looks horrible in blazer, I usually give that type of url a shot - works ocassionaly), wide page mode, or fast mode (CSS off).
      Netfront is also good, but caused stability problems for me.

  25. Who will be first to register... by Zwets · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ...dick.mobi?

    From Hell's heart, I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.

    (Yes, the other obvious use of dick.mobi also crossed my mind. Unfortunately.)

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  26. .mob? by eggdropfan · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Damn why didnt they call it .mob? I was really looking forward to seeing www.mafia.mob

  27. Subdomains by mutube · · Score: 1

    There is a possible benefit in seperating main from mobile content, mostly for reasons of size/bandwidth which cannot be achieved with CSS.

    Having said that, I would say a standard subdomain would be a more sensible way - and lower cost - way to achieve this. Multiple TLDs just confuse users: "Is it ubuntu.org or ubuntu.com..." hence the reason most companies just buy them all up.

  28. Is .mobi moby? by andphi · · Score: 1

    So, they've called something that's intended to be small and is presently of dubious usefulness ".mobi"? Wouldn't that make ".mobi" and moby antonyms?

  29. how long till we see by matt328 · · Score: 1

    *.hates.mobi

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  30. .mobi.le by nekokoneko · · Score: 1

    Does any country have a TLD .le?
    I mean, come on, isn't it obvious? .mobi.le?

  31. Who will enforce it? by Flamefly · · Score: 1

    Is anyone going to force adherence to the standards? If company X registers a domain and serves content that cannot be displayed, will the domain be withdrawn? No. So what's the point of a dedicated domain?

    Lets just be sensible and stick to subdomains as mentioned by an earlier poster, mobi.bbc.co.uk makes far more sense then bbc.mobi, but then of course, no-one makes tens of millions in the land-grab.

    1. Re:Who will enforce it? by thorkyl · · Score: 1

      Is anyone going to force adherence to the standards? If company X registers a domain and serves content that cannot be displayed, will the domain be withdrawn? No. So what's the point of a dedicated domain?

      Money...

      Lets just be sensible and stick to subdomains as mentioned by an earlier poster, mobi.bbc.co.uk makes far more sense then bbc.mobi, but then of course, no-one makes tens of millions in the land-grab.

      Self answered

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  32. Separation of style and content by zoeblade · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This goes against the whole point of separating style and content - the exact same web page, using a handful of CSS files that are each tailored to suit a particular medium, should look equally good on a computer monitor, a TV set, a projector or a mobile phone. Hopefully as people use percentages and ems more and pixels less, we should see a trend towards this ideal.

    Saying "this site is for mobile phones, that one is for desktop computers," completely ignores all of this, telling people to go to a site designed for just their medium.

    1. Re:Separation of style and content by Huge+Pi+Removal · · Score: 1

      I think a lot of the idea of .mobi is to create a set of sites *guaranteed* to work with phones. I'm sure plenty of sites on there will only be for phones, not for normal PCs, and have content/functionality commensurate with that aim.

      The fact that they'll police all sites on there to ensure compliance is a fantastic idea, I reckon.

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    2. Re:Separation of style and content by zoeblade · · Score: 1

      The fact that they'll police all sites on there to ensure compliance is a fantastic idea, I reckon.

      Yeah, and I'd also be all in favour of a database linking to sites (DMOZ style) that comply with HTML standards enough to work with pretty much any browser. Far too many sites don't work properly in text mode, or using speech synthesis, which is a real shame for anyone visually impaired. Hell, far too many sites don't work properly on an Apple Mac or anything else that's not Windows running Internet Explorer. A way to easily find sites that are standards compliant and therefore work reasonably well on all browsers would be great.

      As far as being mobile specific, however... I can see the point if the pages will contain less information, and be short and to the point, so that readers won't have to scroll down dozens of pages to just read the news or whatever information it is they're after. Otherwise, I don't like the idea of a site tailor made to be viewed on one particular device.

  33. Compatibility with web browsers by verbnoun · · Score: 1

    I just tried http://nic.mobi/ on a regular browser and it loaded. Now if I try something like http://google.com/ on my mobile I get a WML page.

    So, is it going to be the norm for every site to give a different page depending on the type of device used to access it. If so, this TLD clearly brings nothing new.

    I would much rather type a well known URL I use at home and hope it gives me page that works with my mobile instead. Not change the TLD to mobi and just *hope* it is owned by the same company.

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  34. obiwan-ke.mobi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or something.

  35. Very useful! by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 1

    A whole entire TLD just for "services" aimed to "mobile" users.
    Next step will be the ".car" for 4 wheels enthusiast services and ".c" for C language programmers.
    In the end we'll have almost all dictionary ( .dict? ) words as TLDs!

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  36. bow down to the telcos by nanosmurf · · Score: 1

    At what point is this just catering to companies who are running an otherwise closed network? It goes against what I understand to be the fundamental rule of the Internet: networks should at least attempt to play nice with each other. I understand there is a business perspective here, but I can't say I'm too interested in developing (free) content for mobile devices that will just end up enhancing the value of those closed cellular networks -- especially on my own dime. Maybe the cellular providers should be getting together to provide .mobi domains to already registered matching .com, .org, .net, etc as incentives for providing that content. My naive utopian thought for the day.

    1. Re:bow down to the telcos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So write content and charge membership/access fees.

      In fact, "closed networks" have the billing infrastructure in place, granted they'll take a cut (like paypal), but that's legwork you don't have to do (advertising/billing).

  37. It matters only because we're afraid it might by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

    Because of squatters, .mobi is gonna be a self fulfilling prophecy: everyone buys their .mobi in fear someone else might do so and blackmail them.

    I've plenty of com/net domains I use for my sites, and since I'm not quite that rich, I refuse to waste thousands of dollars on a nonsense preemptive strike.

    Mobi will fail anyway.

  38. The heading is wrong? by thomasdn · · Score: 1

    I think the heading is wrong. It says that .mobi websites are available to register. Shouldn't that have been .mobi domains?

  39. Is changing the CSS sufficient? Maybe. by Peter+Trepan · · Score: 1

    I've just redesigned a corporate site to use CSS-only positioning, and was able to make it render properly on every browser in reasonably current use. It uses lots of Javascripts, but they all degrade elegantly. In theory, the entire structure could be changed arbitrarily using only a different stylesheet.

    If I were creating a stylesheet for mobile devices, I'd tell certain classes of images (the ones I knew would be large) not to render, (perhaps you could instruct it to use the ALT text instead,) use smaller, higher-contrast background graphics for each element, stack the side-by-side columns on top of each other, and perhaps unhide an name-anchor navigation system that's hidden on the regular stylesheet.

    If you really wanted to spend a lot of time, you could make each and every image a background image, then switch to smaller versions using the mobile stylesheet.

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  40. Opera mini by edxwelch · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In my experience so-called "special" web sites made for mobile phones work much worse than the normal ones and besides that Opera mini can display just about any site perfectly (the only difference from viewing on a PC is that you will have to do a lot more paging)

  41. .biz again by 6031769 · · Score: 1

    Well let's just hope that this proves to be just as huge a success as .biz has been. Now, if you'll excuse me I'll just go and investigate the smoke coming out of my sarcasm detector.

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  42. Incorrect .mobi Link by noahterp · · Score: 1

    The .mobi link Zonk provided is actually just a registar's cover page. The real (and much more web standards-based) .mobi web site is at http://pc.mtld.mobi/.

    1. Re:Incorrect .mobi Link by jginspace · · Score: 1

      The .mobi link Zonk provided is actually just a registar's cover page. The real (and much more web standards-based) .mobi web site is at http://pc.mtld.mobi/ [mtld.mobi].

      Actually the 'correct' site (see a post I made above) is http://mtld.mobi/. If you're using a PC it will take you to pc.mtld.mobi ... but if you should go straight to that page using a mobile it doesn't perform any checks and gives you a 150K JPG to digest. Navigating to mtld.mobi should provide the optimal page.

  43. ".mbl" by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

    ...would be better. Get all three letters on different buttons.

  44. .mob/deep by Eideteker · · Score: 1

    I guess .mob was already in use.

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  45. GoDaddy Link To Registration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is the Godaddy link to registration ($29/yr for Landrush period): https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/tlds/mobi.asp?se=%2 B

  46. And if there's a shortcut key by blueZ3 · · Score: 1

    are we forced to append ".mobi" rather than prepending "mobi."? Leave aside the asinine idea of forming a TLD "for mobiles" that uses "m" and "o" right next to each other. If you could get site publishers to agree to a standard (by some other means than creating a new TLD) it would be trivial for everyone to create a sub-domain for mobile devices. There's no "mobile usability magic" in the ibm.mobi domain that couldn't more easily (and cheaply) be dealt with by a common sub-domain (mobi.ibm.com) for mobile devices.

    The whole ".mobi will make it easier on mobile users" is a crock. This is a straight-up money play.

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  47. "MOBI" stinks for phone number keypad entry by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 1

    One of the biggest pains in using my cellphone (RAZR) for web surfing is the entry of URLs and addresses via the number keypad. To enter an "M", you press 6. To enter an "O", you press 6 3 times in a row. To enter an M and then an O, you press 6, you pause for a while, then press 666. If I was EVER going to pick a domain name for a phone based site, I would make sure it had no two letters in a row that lived on the same number key.

    1. Re:"MOBI" stinks for phone number keypad entry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      666, huh? Guess who's behind this. It wasn't the barcodes after all... it's the cellphones!

  48. Re:The web is broken; TLD != Website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, you lost me; the web uses domain names, domain names needed be websites. They could offer email, or streaming media or whatever. In fact if mobile phones has a specific set of content better delivered not via HTTP and not formatted in XHTML with CSS and numerous JPEGs PNGs and GIFs then a .mobi tld would be a half decent way to deliver it. Lets face it, if I'm an online merchant of ringtones, I probably already do my damnedest to fit the information for mobile phones. Now that doesn't mean I need a .mobi address, but it could help my overall business if mobile uses aren't thinking "hmm ringbonanza.com probably is all full of stuff my phone can't render" and are instead thinking "hmm ringbonanza.mobi is probably going to work on my phone's browser."

    granted, I wish people could rely on the protocol portion of the URL to tell them that, but then again people would be bitching that http doesn't need to be modified to work with phones.
    -Daniel

  49. There was also the .geo TLD by Lord+Satri · · Score: 1

    which has been refused a long time ago but would still be very useful in today's context.

  50. Yoda Music critic URL: by TrevorB · · Score: 1

    sucks.mobi/does/

  51. Slashdotters missing the point by GoatSucker · · Score: 1

    Yet again, Slashdotters PC-centric world view blinkers them to why this is actually a good thing.
    Here's an outline as I see it:

    - You won't have to type .mobi on your phone - within a year it will be assumed unless you type a different .tld. So to find a listing of all the ho's in your area, you will be able to press the services button on your phone and type 'hoe', which will automatically go to hoe.mobi.

    - Because the content is XHTML-MP only, there won't be a confusion of competing markup standards. If you have ever tried to make a mobile-orientated site, you'll understand the pain of trying to support more than one phone manufacturer. If you think the answer to supporting mobile sites is to add a different .css file for mobile users, you've severely misunderstood things.

    - It's easy to dismiss mobile sites as pointless but that's because the man-on-the-street is only just starting to understand mobile internet technologies (yes, wap was a heap of shit, but things have moved on a lot since).

    If you want to cling to your 1990's PC-centric view, that's fine, but over here it's 2006.

  52. The site for all the driving cellphone users... by CYDVicious · · Score: 1

    auto.mobi/e

    and for the handicapped

    i.mobi/e

    and for the rest of the shit there's

    gimme.mobi/e

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  53. How hard is it for web sites to check the browser user agent and output something relevant? It's not as if many sites don't do this already anyway.

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you only need to look at the HTTP Accept-string to see when you have a device that wants mobile-content.

    2. Re:Why? by asuffield · · Score: 1

      Even that is too complicated. You can do it just with CSS, no server-side intelligence at all.

  54. UA strings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just use a server-side script to redirect when the UA string smells like coming from a mobile device. how hard is this?

  55. The name-completion styles some people make... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, there is always
      bat.mobi
      eatcornandwatcha.mobi
      savetheanchobi.mobi
      lonechowwagon.mobi

    I think whoever decided on the "mobi" TLD is also anticipating Ebonics to shiver all pronunciations of a "B" to a "V" in their alphabet, thereby transforming the biase of a declared TLD and its content to be not "mobile-technologies" but independent movies that compete against the private administration of RIAA and MPAA and Gougle/YouTube. That is unlike Germans with their pronouncing a "P" for a "B" or otherwise noting a shift in their breathing patterns over time that are remeniscent durring a War when someone runs and talks; inhaling to a "B" or ex-haling to a "P." All of a sudden, I feel like chewing on some honey-bee wax while standing above the urinal.

  56. slashdot.mobi by zukakog · · Score: 1

    It would be nice to have a really lite slashdot.mobi

  57. I like the music but... by honestmonkey · · Score: 1

    ... does he really need his own TLD? He's already got a tea shop and all. Seems like a bit much just for one musician.

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  58. mobile biz != web biz by msimm · · Score: 1

    You might not like it but its just a fact. The mobile market place is the next big rush.

    .mobi didn't happen because of evil registrars, it happened because the marketplace wanted it.

    I work for a company thats in technology, so we watch trends pretty closely. Mobile space isn't even on our map yet but we attend CTIA and look for opportunities very carefully. It would probably be irresponsible for us not to. People want mobile technology and at some point, at least for more casual things, laptops don't cut it.

    So sure, its probably more marketing then technological revolution (wow, new TLD) but the people and business that will use it are whats making it happen. Not the other way.

    Think of it as market segmentation.

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    1. Re:mobile biz != web biz by MasterC · · Score: 1
      You might not like it but its just a fact. The mobile market place is the next big rush.


      Not trying to be rude, but you're just now figuring this out? :)

      .mobi didn't happen because of evil registrars, it happened because the marketplace wanted it.


      The market "wants it" because the current market can't handle it. Suppose for a second that websites used CSS properly and could handle user-agents correctly: would the .mobi TLD be necessary?

      On a completely side point: I can't imagine that an emerging market force of the mobile market could win out politicians and sexually conservative folks in getting .xxx or .porn created as a TLD.
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  59. A few years too late by 1310nm · · Score: 1

    By the time everyone's aware of .mobi domains and they're in mainstream use, people's cell phones will have full-function browsers, thus negating the need for WAP sites.

  60. Mob friendly? by Ilgaz · · Score: 1

    They allow a Russian guy to register wunderground.mobi , here comes the dotcom cybersquatting again.

    Check http://pc.mtld.mobi/whois/index.php , put wunderground.mobi to search box and see the result yourself. While on it, check slashdot.mobi , it is taken too.

    Weather Underground is one of the oldest sites on web (they started with Telnet/Gopher!) and they have a dedicated mobile (WAP) version at

    http://m.wunderground.com/

    So, a Russian guy can get that wunderground.mobi yes? What guarantees there won't be some "Enter your credit card details for plus access" on that page?

    Cybersquatting in 2006, great. The question is: They are that naive or is this on purpose?