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A Mac Fan's Take On Vista

jcatcw writes "Ken Mingis has been running Vista on a MacBook Pro for a couple of weeks. Highlights from his review: 'Apple's UI is called Aqua. Microsoft calls its interface Aero. Hmmmm... Gadgets and widgets. What's that line about imitation being the sincerest form of flattery?... The UAC implementation in Vista is heavy-handed and intrusive — it halts what you're doing, even if you want to do something as simple as change your clock. My sense here is that Microsoft has been criticized so often for security vulnerabilities that it decided to club users over the head with its new operating system-in-lockdown-mode... I'm more enamored of Vista's Flip 3D feature, which basically takes all of the open windows on your desktop, stands them up on end and stacks them in a way that you can cycle through to the one you want to use. It's similar to what Apple's Expose does... Vista's method wins on aesthetics.'"

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  1. Painfully Subjective Review by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll just out and say it -- Ken Mingis is just looking for bells & whistles. He's not in search of the 'best' operating system, just looking for the one that can waste CPU cycles while making the user ooh and ahh.

    Here's something you could have figured out for me: how efficient are these effects? What's the net cost of having Aqua or Aero? Do these graphical interfaces leave sasquatch sized memory footprints? Are Gadgets & Widgets memory efficient? Does all this extra shit cause any more bugs than a regular operating system without them?

    Big deal. Call me when you write an object review. I want to know which of these operating systems will run on my old ass laptop with a low end P4 in it. Not all of us have the new intel core 2 duos.

    Congratulations, four pages of inundating me with ads, bitching about UAC & falling head over heels for Aero. Sounds like every other Vista review I've read.

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  2. Missing out on the real features... by cybrthng · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not going to copy and paste them here, but check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windo ws_Vista for all of the features & enhancements that really make vista what it is.

    The new gui is just a fraction of what Vista offers and i'm amazed at home many people praise it or deteste it based on that single aspect alone.

    UAC annoying? Not really, it finally juts alerts you to a change that affects your system as a whole. UAC used to be MUCH more annoying on previous betas but really is a non issue for most people on 5728 or higher because once your running there really isn't much you need to change and being alerted to changes that can impact your system is a good thing.

    It takes 2 seconds to disable it if you don't like it. Windows R, msconfig, disable UAC, reboot.

    1. Re:Missing out on the real features... by oc255 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, home directories have been around for a long time. They moved C:\Documents and Settings\username to C:\Users\username which is the exact path of OSX if you switched it to a UNIX path.

    2. Re:Missing out on the real features... by artemis67 · · Score: 5, Informative

      You do realize that Konfabulator (which started out on the Mac OS) was nothing more than a return to Apple's Desktop Accessories, which premiered in Mac System 1.0, but Apple started to drift away from with the introduction of System 7? By Mac OS 9, DA's were pretty much dead, and with the introduction of OS X, gone altogether. Konfabulator may have had a lot of influence on the way Apple implemented Widgets, but technically Apple is only returning to a concept that they pioneered in 1984.

  3. Old Arguments. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well that is the typical Windows vs. Mac Debate. Apple OS method is do what you need to do, and let the OS Do What it needs to do, and try not to step on each others foot. Windows is a working Microsoft Commercial for every feature that help you save time or protect you from trouble it is like Windows says "See Microsoft cares about you because we just protected you", While Mac OS X is more like go do what you need to do we will keep out of it and protect you when you need it, and we will only talk to you when we really have to. Even the Eye Candy. OS X eye candy is subtile while Windows is flashy. It is like a a man in a nice suit vs. a Pimp.

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  4. Flip3D is aesthetic? by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm more enamored of Vista's Flip 3D feature, which basically takes all of the open windows on your desktop, stands them up on end and stacks them in a way that you can cycle through to the one you want to use. It's similar to what Apple's Expose does... Vista's method wins on aesthetics.


    Ken, are you freaking kidding? Expose simply looks and behaves so much more efficiently and aesthetically. Try Flip3D when you have 20 windows open, and you'll get an obscured stack of windows that you have to travel through one by one, including the desktop (weirdly, Flip3D puts the desktop in there as a window too). In addition, there's no need to "cycle" through the windows in Expose, because it displays all windows at once. Flip3D is essentially a completely useless tech demo that's not that impressive. Flip3D doesn't win on anything.
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  5. Re:Well... by Chacham · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think it goes something like "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

    I think it goes something like "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"

  6. Re:Well... by RorschachUK · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's a Google Video featuring audio from a Microsoft presentation of Vista's new features over video from OS X Tiger, showing that pretty much everything that was touted as new in Vista is already in Tiger. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-413444611 2378047444

  7. Re:Flip is a matter of opinion by Tom · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes I know that the glass color can be changed, but no matter what it is still dark and depressing.

    It's just there to get you in the mood. You know, if you're already depressed, then the first crash or 0day won't hurt so much. :-)

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  8. End the madness! by dave420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone seems to be seeing how OSs fare compared to each other, giving bragging rights to whichever one was the first to use various features, when that doesn't even matter in the slightest. An OS is to be used - it's not your child, you don't have to stand up for it. If it does what you need it to do, then it's great. I don't give a rat's ass who invented "windows flying around revealing themselves" first, I just care if it's of any use to me. It's an operating system, not a political statement. Fucking fanboys.

  9. Re:Aqua, Aero, Terra, Pyro? by talornin · · Score: 5, Informative

    That would be "Ignis" UI. Pyro is Greek, Aqua, Terra and Aearo is Latin, thus Ignis is more apropriate ^_^

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  10. Re:Despite the proof... by Apocalypse111 · · Score: 5, Funny

    PC: Hi, I'm a PC.
    Mac: Hi, I'm a Mac. Hey, what do you have there?
    PC: Oh, just some games.
    Mac: Oh neat. Can I play too?
    PC: No.

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