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Police Using YouTube to Catch Killers
Accommodate Students writes "The BBC is reporting on Greater Manchester police's attempts to use YouTube to catch the killers of the 15 year old, Jessie James. The video features a message from Jessie's mother Barbara Reid and sister Rosemary. BBC radio news has said this is the first time the police force have used YouTube in this way to catch criminals." Update: 10/08 07:40 GMT by Z : Sorry, misunderstood the situation. Thanks for the clarification.
I love The Killers. There's all sorts of videos, interviews and other performances available on YouTube. Just search for The Killers.
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17716 478&method=full&siteid=64736&headline=execution-of -a-boy-called-jessie-james--name_page.html
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Why are editors publishing stories to they front page they themselves consider unimportant?
He basically has no idea what the story is about, and doesn't bother to put in the effort to find out, why should anyone else care?
Because in some countries, a person getting shot still qualifies as "news".
rj
There's nothing *special* about it. Murder is still considered noteworthy in itself here in Britain...
The simple fact that a 15 year old boy getting shot gets such media attention in Britain (when compared to similar events in America) is noteworthy. Sure, the USA is a far larger country, but even at a State level you don't really see the same kind of news reporting when it comes to these kind of shootings.
Other than the obvious and regrettably tragedy of the situation, why is this case noteworthy?
Well, in some countries, like the UK, there aren't so many murders everyday throughout the year that the populace has lost all sense of empathy when a human life is taken. All it takes is for there to be an unusual circumstance and it will become big news.
I guess in some other countries, where bizzare murders and school/work shootings happen all the time and people are bored of it, people would rather hear about Angela Jolie and Brad Pitt.
Here's the video in question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM6HmxlU-hI
This is apparently related to the hatespeak-related jailing we discussed on Saturday. As this is obviously getting a lot of media attention over there, can someone from the UK enlighten us? Other than the obvious and regrettably tragedy of the situation, why is this case noteworthy?
How so?
No where do any of the articles mention anything about race or hate in this particular killing.
Is the submitter of this story attempting to make things up?
TFA mentions guns and GANGS, which would suggest that it is probably GANG related and probably a black on black killing..
Why suggest it was a race hate crime?? Where's the evidence please?
It's in another country?
:-/
We got lots of guns and shootings?
Mainstream Media is currently in the election story arc (and with this Foley guy, well, it's all sweet cash for them)?
Anyway, we're getting a deluge of death reports from Iraq so... you know, back of the line and all that.
A large percentage of murder has a motive, and the killer and victim know each other. This case is particularly heinous for these reasons:
1. The victim apparently didn't know the killers
2. He was apparently chosen solely based on race
3. The killers are still at large, and there's no reason to believe that they wouldn't do this again
People don't think too much when drug dealers are killing each other, because most of us don't hang out with that crowd and aren't really affected by it. That's why a killing like this brings in much more attention.
Do you have ESP?
WTF????????? How IS Parent FLAMEBait?????
What did I miss? :D
Don't post filth links here.
It's a big story because..
.. where the usual victims aren't young kids .. who are supposedly innocent .. who are supposedly 'god fearing' .. who are not white
a) it occurred in a crime ridden area of Manchester
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That is.. it totally doesn't fit the profile.
It'd be the equivalent of a white beauty queen living in Compton getting hacked with a machete while walking along the street. That would be big news in the US whereas gun-related child murders seem to be a weekly event, unlike in the UK.
Gang != black, especially in the UK where blacks are a tiny minority.
This is apparently related to the hatespeak-related jailing we discussed on Saturday.
Jesse James != Anthony Walker. The only way they are related is that both murder victims are black.
Other than the obvious and regrettably tragedy of the situation, why is this case noteworthy?
What did Stalin say, "A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic"? So how this particular case different than the thousands of others who die regularly? I dont know but that sure is a shitty way to look at the world.
The best education consists in immunizing people against systematic attempts at education. - Paul Feyerabend
I know this is Slashdot, and expecting people to read the article is a waste of time, so can we possibly get a little more info in the summary? I read the headline and thought it was going to be some really wierd but totally cool sting op.
This sure sounds like a Black on Black killing. Had it been somewhere a little to the East of Greater Manchester I might've suspected it was a White on Black racist killing, but not where it happened.
The Sunday Mail is the Sunday edition of the Daily Record, a Scottish tabloid newspaper commonly seen turning yellow on the dashboard of rusty Ford Transits at building sites all over the country. Often to be seen alongside half-empty bottles of Irn Bru.
very few of them involve innocent children being shot on the street.
Not that they dont deserve it. About 9 in each 10 crimes I have heard about since I came to the UK are 14-16 year old kids doing some kind of maniatic thing to pedestrians.
A friend of mine was attacked (with gum guns) in the middle of the street at daylight by these bastards. And when I arrived people warned me to be aware of the teens as they are the most dangerous of all. It seems UK laws are pretty soft on these "kids" and parents just dont care about educating them.
I for one would love to shoot, for example, a bunch of kids that used to bull a boy everyday until he (or she I dont remember) commited suicide.
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Shouldn't there be a law to keep the pigs off the internet? If not, I'll pass one. Right here in a vacuum. Why not. That's what they do. Name one time in your entire life you ever got to vote on any of the hundreds of thousands of laws you live under. Ok, what was the law? Name it. Uh huh, I thought so. Never.
The justice system is a crock of ****. Just a way to internalize control over people.
F the f*ing law. From now on I make the laws.
First law, I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Cross-reference: Monty Python - Constitutional Peasant.mp3
I'm only half kidding, either. Given that YouTube inhabitants are usually only slightly more sane than your average MySpace user, I suspect it won't be long before spoof or remix videos start cropping up.
Did they think he was going to be another Mr. Howard or something? Those dirty little copycat cowards.
The reality is different - crime rates aren't much different than elsewhere
I'm not sure if you are comparing like to like. It's been a long time since I took courses outside my areas of specialty (~ 20 years), but when I was in school (college) theories of social density and its correlation to behavioral pathology were widely accepted. Much available data supported the correlation and many studies were published.
The general idea is that when you increase the number of people per square unit of surface area "deviant" behavior among humans increases. Rape and murder is part of this pathology, but so are things like indecent exposure, assault, swearing, etc. I don't have any judgments about such behavior. I'm just saying that crime rates, if we are to believe studies that link social density to behavioral pathology, do differ depending on where you live. Crime in a rural area (low social density) will be less than crime in an urban area. This means that a country like Australia (an entire continent) will have less crime per capita than, say, Los Angeles.
I googled for a bit using "social density" and "crime" but couldn't come up with anything with that "gotta click" feel. It might be because such theories have been debunked (unlikely), are no longer in vogue (likely), or something else (very likely).
Here's the front end of one article that you need JSTOR access to read. Maybe others (or me later) can follow up with better links showing one way or the other. I actually should be doing other research at the moment. : )
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Wow, Team Rocket sure has turned evil lately...
If we had our way the army would still be equipped with swords, which you can still run away from by the way. ;-)
Back when the army was still equipped with swords there were also throwing daggers, archers, catapaults, ballistas, crossbows, trebuchets, slings, etc. Maybe running isn't the best answer. Maybe if someone wants to kill someone they are going to do it with whatever tools are handy.