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Mapping Interior Spaces With Robots And GIS

Roland Piquepaille writes "In an article about GIS and Robotics, Directions Magazine reports that architects and other professionals can now use spatially intelligent robots to collect interior space data. With such mapping robots, it's possible to capture accurate data for over 10,000 square meters per day and to easily integrate it with existing software. The article doesn't mention the sources for its illustrations about these robotic systems, so I thought I'd point them out: a company in Maine called Penobscot Bay Media. You'll find more details and pictures about these mapping robots at ZDNet."

47 comments

  1. This first attempted application for these... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...was in colonoscopies, but all of the patients so far have died of massive internal bleeding.

    1. Re:This first attempted application for these... by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      Actually, it will be pretty handy for something closely related - a lot of older cities don't have accurate blueprints of their sewer systems ... oops, it depends on GPS - no satellite signal in "the tubes" ... guess that's one more idea in the toilet ...

    2. Re:This first attempted application for these... by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
      Actually, it will be pretty handy for something closely related - a lot of older cities don't have accurate blueprints of their sewer systems ... oops, it depends on GPS - no satellite signal in "the tubes" ... guess that's one more idea in the toilet ...
      They could probably replace the GPS with an inertial navigation/dead reckoning setup.

      The more advanced ones are highly accurate
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  2. gotta get me one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pretty useless

    1. Re:gotta get me one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So is the submitter.

  3. TFA: Don't be a robot, use one! by l0cust · · Score: 1

    How long before the robots start telling each other the same thing?

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    1. Re:TFA: Don't be a robot, use one! by auric_dude · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The Air Force Research Laboratory may well be already using robots to map out underground enclosures http://www.wired.com/news/technology/software/0,71 779-0.html some more information and ideas discussed by David Hambling via http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002775.html

  4. spam spam spamity spam by LearnToSpell · · Score: 0, Troll

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    1. Re:spam spam spamity spam by edgedmurasame · · Score: 2

      Also useful are the pigpail and pigpile tags.

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    2. Re:spam spam spamity spam by onion2k · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Your 'fuckroland' comment + the pennyarcade image you have linked as your homepage = Amusingly ironic.

  5. Here's the Video by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative

    Coralized so as not to /. their server
    15 MB http://www.penbaymedia.com.nyud.net:8080/demos/Spa tial-Robotics.wmv

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    1. Re:Here's the Video by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

      Great video...a robotic stalker, huh?

    2. Re:Here's the Video by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Yea, I noticed that to, right at the end.

      For everyone else: They suggest that you could use the robot as a sentry to patrol buildings and detect movement/changes in the environment. Which makes me wonder what its runtime is.

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  6. robots monitoring by not+goods · · Score: 1

    this could have as easily been categorized as a "your rights" issue. how cool that they can now map out where people spend their time. i'm sure they'll use that information for the betterment of all of us.

    1. Re:robots monitoring by megaditto · · Score: 1

      Well, this could be useful for our soldiers in the field. Send a 'spiderbot' into an Iraqi house to map out the insides and scout for hostage locations. Then smoke the place up and send in the soldiers with infrared-enhanced VR goggles on or something.

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    2. Re:robots monitoring by Drall · · Score: 1

      Well, some researchers are doing work on access analysis using agent-based simulations (not using robots to do the survey, though). It gets used to see, for example, whether a particular building design or urban plan unconsciously channels people's movement into or out of particular areas. Whether this is a Good Thing(tm) is left as an exercise for the student..

  7. Cool by fa2k · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can I have my home as a CS:Source map now, please ?

    Seriously though, I don't see many uses for this isolated tech. It is, however, necessary to have something like this in 'intelligent' robots.

    1. Re:Cool by zxscooby · · Score: 1

      maby for someone to charge you 1000 bucks to measure your livingroom.

  8. 30 years in the making by evil+agent · · Score: 1

    Looks like these are descendants of Shakey the Robot. Funny how Shakey's not mentioned anywhere in those links...

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    1. Re:30 years in the making by Hrodgare · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because modern mobile robots are only minimally similar to Shakey-- the algorithms which make mapping and localization possible are statistical, rather than logical, and Shakey was logic-based system. Furthermore, Shakey wasn't a whole lot more than a physical incarnation of a blocksworld agent. In a sense, all modern mobile robots are distantly related to Shakey-- but only in the same sense as they're distantly related to Rodney Brooks' subsumption architecture robots. I'm surprised this article is coming up as news; robots capable of mapping and localization tasks have been around for several years now, and there's a great deal of off the shelf software (open source and otherwise) capable of this.

  9. Wow by valkabo · · Score: 1

    Impressive! This could be very useful in a lot of situations.. Keeping in mind that this is the very generation, there could very well be later generations that could map rooms in mere minutes, and then other ones to map rubble in minutes.. then when disaster strikes, in goes the robots to map stuff out, and people to follow.

    Also.. its one step closer to our favorite person ever made.

    DATA! WOOT!

    1. Re:Wow by paxmaniac · · Score: 1

      Impressive! This could be very useful in a lot of situations.. Keeping in mind that this is the very generation, there could very well be later generations that could map rooms in mere minutes, and then other ones to map rubble in minutes.. then when disaster strikes, in goes the robots to map stuff out, and people to follow.

      Actually, the current technology is quite capable of mapping a room in a few seconds - essentially as fast as you can drive a robot through the room with line of sight to all the corners. The application described in TFA is nothing more than a commercialised version of technology that has been around for years.

      It is also currently possible to generate a 3D map of a complex environment (such as a pile of rubble). Have a look at Kurt3D, which maps using a laser scanner on a tilting or rotating mount. You can also use an infrared time-of-flight sensor such as the SwissRanger to generate the same sort of datasets.

      It's interesting that you should mention the Search and Rescue application. There are numerous robotics groups around the world working on this problem, and testing solutions in the RoboCup Rescue competition, which has been running since 2000. Almost every team in this competition has some sort of automatic mapping technology akin to that desrcibed in TFA. Several also have 3D mapping, and there is also a lot of interesting work going on in user interfaces and remote control, as well as autonomous navigation, exploration, victim identification and decision making.

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    1. Re:How to Block Roland Piquepaille by Dysproxia · · Score: 5, Funny
      here's the Greasemonkey script I wrote to hide Roland Piquepaille stories from Slashdot
      Why aren't you using it then?
    2. Re:How to Block Roland Piquepaille by brendandonhue · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It's apparent that you haven't tried the script to see how it works ;)

    3. Re:How to Block Roland Piquepaille by caseih · · Score: 1

      I don't mind his posts so much some of the time (I never go to his site ever), but he uses dishonest means to drive traffic to his own sites and blogs to get ad revenue. This time he says "You'll find more details and pictures about these mapping robots at ZDNet" but really it's not a ZDnet article at all; it's his blog. Slashdot editors, please either edit his posts to report the truth, or don't post his stories at all.

    4. Re:How to Block Roland Piquepaille by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did he ever said ZDNet article.

      "http://blogs.zdnet.com/emergingtech/?p=373"

      Why do you think ZDNet has blogs? They(ZDNet) are trying to get people to see their ads on the blogs.

      Gosh. In my opinion I think whoever doesn't check the URL before he clicks an hyperlink is a dumbass, but that's just me.

  11. The Porn Industry... by cliveholloway · · Score: 1

    As always, we must look to the porn industry to find a way to make money from this new technology before it trickles down (sic) to the average user.

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  12. They grow up so fast! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems like yesterday they couldn't even find their way around specially designed parcours, and today they're mapping whole office buildings like a pro.

  13. Mapping on the interior of a space by Bromskloss · · Score: 1

    Is someone trying get to the topic of mathematics?

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  14. complicated by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

    Indoors you don't have gps, so you have to rely on other sensor input. An article on IEEE mentioned robots with radar which created small map segments which were stiched to create a big map.

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  15. A shameless plug :) by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a small semestrial academic project, I worked on a different kind of mapping project which uses a large number of very simple (and cheap) robots instead of a small number of expensive robots like in this article.

    Each robot is aware of its location through odometry (measuring the distance traveled by both the of the bot's wheels) and collision detection using, in our case, a rotating straw due to the fact we were limited to Lego Mindstorms.
    Using odometry inserts a lot of error to the calculations. To counter these errors, the robots communicate over a short distance (touching distance) and average their expected location and heading.

    In theory, and simulation, the algorithm proved very successful. Especially for a large number of agents.
    In practice the errors were too large compared to the very small number of agents (4) we had at our disposal.

    The project page.
    And the simulation applet, written with NetLogo.

    I wonder if they use such averaging algorithms with these robots aswell.

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    1. Re:A shameless plug :) by w33v1l · · Score: 2, Interesting
      One technique for dealing with errors and gradual drift is the use of a covariance matrix to allow the propagation of location information through a scene. Such as in Andrew Davison's work http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ajd/ , although this only deals with a very sparse map of feature points, using mono vision in real-time. One nice thing about his SceneLib and MonoSLAMGlow software, is that it'll work with a relatively cheap single webcam.

      Another nice visual SLAM (Simultaneous Localisation And Mapping) page is Robert Sim's http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~simra/index.html , where he uses multi-camera vision to produce a much denser map.

  16. Impromptu quiz by EZLeeAmused · · Score: 1

    If one of these rolled into your cubicle/office/building, would you:
    a) punt it
    2) hack it
    c) disassemble it for useful parts
    d) melt it down for useful chemicals and metals

    and although I can't imagine a /.er chosing this one, I'll go ahead and include it:
    e) let it map the interior of your personal space

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  17. Alternative: Time Difference of Arrival by Ceriel+Nosforit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been thinking about implementing Time Difference of Arrival plus echo-locationing to do a very similar thing. Plus, this method could be used to scan in 3D with ease. Not to mention a number of other interesting applications, such as beamforming plus distance awareness.

    The very same code could be used for EM for a sort of total situation awareness radar, passive and active.

    Next up: death ray! Mwahahahaah!

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  18. Robots vs Sensors for Surveillance by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    For everyone else: They suggest that you could use the robot as a sentry to patrol buildings and detect movement/changes in the environment. Which makes me wonder what its runtime is.

    I don't really get this. Would using a robot really have any advantages over building a sensor network? Seems like you could build and deploy a lot of sensors for the cost of a robot, and have much better coverage besides.

    Plus, a robot following any sort of predictable rounds is vulnerable to being diverted or otherwise disabled, or simply avoided; a network of independent sensors is more robust and harder to avoid.

    I could see a use for robots to deploy sensors, however; mapping as they move around, and building a sensor mesh behind them as they go.

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  19. Web 2.0 compatible! by epp_b · · Score: 1

    With such mapping robots, it's possible to capture accurate data for over 10,000 square meters per day and to easily integrate it with existing software.

  20. WTF is GIS? by l33td00d42 · · Score: 1

    i followed the link and all i've been able to surmise is that they're not talking about Google Image Search.

    1. Re:WTF is GIS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIS

      To put it simply, think maps and databases put together.

  21. Looks like a pioneer by nich37ways · · Score: 1

    From the article it looks a lot like an ActivMedia Pioneer with a SICK laser which you can control through Player/Stage and includes all of the mapping algrothims, still have to do work to make it work however.

    This looks like a fairly standard reasearch project for undergrad student, player/stage is littered with uni students asking questions about using these type of modules

    I am not suprised by the lack of accuracy in the shown map, you normally get a lot of errors due to the robot not accurately figuring out where it is everytime it turns even slightly. Onboard odometry is never that good.

    If you want something slightly more cutting edge, yet still old look at the mapping out of something like Kurt3D

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    1. Re:Looks like a pioneer by OtherFarm · · Score: 1

      Kurt2: http://www.ais.fraunhofer.de/KURT2/
      Kurt3D: http://www.ais.fraunhofer.de/ARC/kurt3D/
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    2. Re:Looks like a pioneer by byetman · · Score: 1

      Hey Nich37ways, You are correct in your observation. We use the Pioneer from our friends at Active Media, Mobile Robotics as our platform for data collection. While various SLAM techniques have been around quite a while, the methodology we use gives us very high accuracy data. As you point out, odometry isn't very reliable, especially in variable terrain environments, so our approach uses a number of integrated sensors to create floorplans. Combined with posterior pose algorithms during post processing, we get great results.

  22. the atari 2600 robot that mapped your house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone remember the cartridge for the 2600 that did this with a roving robot, and drew the walls on your T.V.?

  23. Questionable Utility by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    Hmmm.... okay. So these robots map the interior of large office buildings and the like. What I want to know is: what owner, manager, or tenant of a large office building, worth hundreds of thousand to millions of dollars, does not already have an accurate blueprint? Hell, in most cases you can get copies from the city for a few bucks!

  24. GIS and Geospatial technologies slashsite... by Lord+Satri · · Score: 1

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