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Britain's First "Web-Rage" Attack

brown-eyed slug writes "The BBC is reporting what is claimed to be Britain's first "web-rage" attack. A man drove seventy miles to assault his victim with a pick-axe handle after they exchanged insults in a Yahoo! chat room." From the article: "Det Cons Christopher Creagh, of the Metropolitan Police, said: 'This is the first instance of a web-rage attack.' Det Sgt Jean-Marc Bazzoni, of Essex Police, added the case demonstrates the importance of protecting one's identity on the internet. 'Mr Jones had posted pictures of his family on the web and had chatted to Gibbons on an audio link,' he said. 'It demonstrates how easily other users can put two and two together and also shows how children could also find themselves in danger.'"

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  1. That is why..... by suntac · · Score: 4, Funny

    That is why I do not give my home address here :-)...

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    1. Re:That is why..... by Billosaur · · Score: 4, Funny

      Think you're a smart guy, eh? Why I oughtta.... never mind... don't know where you live...

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    2. Re:That is why..... by Aim+Here · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just as well you don't, Mr Johan F D Louwers
      of 89 Newstraat,
      De Bildt
      NL 3732DJ

      You never know what kind of freaks and stalkers and lunatics are roaming the net these days...

    3. Re:That is why..... by udderly · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Four or five years ago, some clown on eBay ripped me off and I found him using only his first name and his eBay name, which meant a certain animal in French + a two-digit number, which I took to be his birth year. This year would have made him about 20 years old. I Googled the eBay name in English only sites and got a number of hits. On a discussion site, I found the same username with a university email address, which had a partial name. Interestingly enough, in the discussion group this guy used a certain phrase that, combined with his age, made me pretty sure that it was the same person. I Googled the university + partial name and got a few hits. One of them was the school newspaper and included a picture of the French Club with a listing of all of the names of the people in the photos.

      I imagine he was very surprised when I emailed him a picture of himself at his university email addresss and demanded my money. Needless to say, I got my money back.

    4. Re:That is why..... by NekoXP · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is it creepy?

      You could do exactly the same thing using paper resources if you had the time and patience. There were plenty of stalkers around before the internet reared it's head. I don't think there are really any more these days, simply a greater proportion of them doing it faster.

    5. Re:That is why..... by OakDragon · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's the combination on my briefcase!

  2. Sanity by otacon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This doesn't have as much to do with the internet as they'd want you to think, I mean the guy drove 70 miles with an axe, obviously he wasn't stable to begin with.

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    1. Re:Sanity by ArcticCelt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Det Sgt Jean-Marc Bazzoni, of Essex Police, added the case demonstrates the importance of protecting one's identity on the internet.

      "It demonstrates how easily other users can put two and two together and also shows how children could also find themselves in danger."

      No, it demonstrate the importance of acting civilized and how people should stop acting like savages just because they are not in front of the person they are communicating with.

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    2. Re:Sanity by birder · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree. A sane person would of turned around after 30 miles.

    3. Re:Sanity by mrdaveb · · Score: 5, Funny

      It was probably driving around the M25 that got him so pissed off in the first place. I bet he just wanted to go and have a beer with the guy when he left home ;-)

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  3. Won't somebody please think of the children?!? by proverbialcow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It demonstrates how easily other users can put two and two together and also shows how children could also find themselves in danger." ...which, in turn, demonstrates why children should not be allowed unfettered access to the Net. Of course, it's probably just easier to pass legislation than to watch what your kids are doing - that makes it somebody else's problem.

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  4. 70 miles by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Funny

    He travelled 70 miles to Mr Jones' home in Clacton, Essex, and beat him up with a pickaxe handle in December 2005.

    You've got to hand to the guy for travelling 70 miles just to beat someone up.

    I can't wait for news about someone travelling to the other side of the globe just to beat someone up because they kept fragging them / stealing their gold / beat them double perfect in Street Fighter...

  5. I have mixed feelings about this... by D-Cypell · · Score: 4, Funny

    On one hand, I find it sad that a network with the potential to unit the world, and bring us all closer together became the catalyst for such a sick, frenzied and unnecessary attack.

    On the other hand, I am happy that my TCP-enabled pickaxe handle may have a market.

  6. Ax-handle control NOW! by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Police report that this guy owns not just one, but several ax-handles! He's an ax-handle nut! I wish the ax-handle lobby would own up to the fact that these things are not just dangerous, but potentially DEADLY!

    Effective ax-handle control legislation is long overdue! Think of the children!

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    1. Re:Ax-handle control NOW! by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Funny

      Police report that this guy owns not just one, but several ax-handles! He's an ax-handle nut! I wish the ax-handle lobby would own up to the fact that these things are not just dangerous, but potentially DEADLY!

      Effective ax-handle control legislation is long overdue! Think of the children!


      Look, nobody wants to take away axe handles from legitimate, country-side axe users. It's only the urban areas that don't need them. We just need to close all the loopholes at the farm shows and flea markets. The real problem, though, is the glorification of axe handle swinging in popular media. Because once people think it's OK to inappropriately use just one piece of wood, then our Home Depots and other lumber yards are no better than arms markets.

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  7. Re:Won't someone think of the children? by Brainix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're right. Sadly, misguided politicians use unfortunate incidents like this to hammer through legislation. This has less to do with the internet than one might think. Assault has been illegal long before the birth of the internet.

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  8. Dog bites man by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Psycho attacks man over perceived slight" is the dog bites man story no matter how you wrap it up for media consumption. The man bites dog story would be "Psycho drives 70 miles to clean man's snowed-in driveway with a shovel after an online exchange."

    He's psychotic, what did you expect? Him to drive up with a bouquet of fresh flowers for the women of the family and a bottle of Dom Perignon for the gentlemen to savor over fine Cuban cigars?

    This is one reason why I plan to live in the South as long as I live in America. Most of the South is still relatively sane. Someone comes at you with any sort of axe, ice pick, knife, etc. you're going to be hard-pressed to find a jury that will convict you for blowing their head off.

    I read stories online all the time about youths beating up or murdering people in Britain and the police harassing the 50 year old Brit who asked them to just be quiet. Who are the psychos? The punk youths, the British cop and the institution he represents. I thought the definition of psychosis is a pathological inability to tell right from wrong, and last time I checked, state power harassing law-abiding British subjects set upon by violent punks is the definition of injustice--right and wrong!--making the British legal system technically psychotic.

    1. Re:Dog bites man by PakProtector · · Score: 4, Informative

      As someone who suffers from Psychosis, you are off on your terminology. The word you are looking for is not Psychotic, which describes Psychosis, but Psychopathic. Psychopathy is the condition that can be generally described as a lack of a conscience. A Psychopath doesn't care if they hurt other people. They have a lack of ability to empathise with the pain of others.

      As a Psychotic person, myself, I know what is right and wrong. And I do care about whether my actions hurt people. It's just sometimes one can become rather extremely disconnected from reality.

      For more information, check out Wikipedia.

      Also of note is that Psychopathic behaviour is very often part of the condition known as Antisocial Personality Disorder, which, if memory serves, is commonly called Sociopathy.

      Wikipedia Article on Psychosis
      Wikipedia Article on Psychopathy
      Wikipedia Article on Antisocial Personality Disorder

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  9. And how is this different from the real world? by S.O.B. · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...the case demonstrates the importance of protecting one's identity on the internet


    I think the case demonstrates that the internet is no different than the real world. Trade insults with a guy you just met (online or not) and he may be a violent person that will come over to your house with his buddy and kick your ass. I'm glad he wasn't killed and I hope he'll completely recover but I don't have too much sympathy.

    Too many people use the supposed anonymity of the internet as an excuse to be asshats. Always remember...the other guy could be a bigger asshat.
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  10. Bollocks by SomethingOrOther · · Score: 4, Informative

    these kinds of "rage" attacks are definitely on the increase
    WRONG
    http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/Page63.as p
    (And thats before taking Victorian London into account)

    with binge drinking also increasing
    LOL ! Getting shitfaced is obviously a new phenominon
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Lane

    Even take violence at football games - yes, it's decreased here in the past 20 years but only because there are so many police
    Nothing to do with the rise of MDMA in the late 80's & early 90's then?
    http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v04n1/04122mdm.ht ml

    Stop reading the News of the Screws / Daily Hate and get a grip.

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  11. Re:more info by Migraineman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    To be honest it is the address of my parents.
    Soooo, it was a good idea to offer up even more information in response?

    Okay class, this concludes today's example of Social Engineering.