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Details On IE7 CSS Changes

writes "IE development team has released a list of CSS changes for IE7. Some of the notable new features are enabling :hover for all elements, and implementing position:fixed, and PNG transparency support. In addition, there is a long list of fixed bugs that plagued previous IE browsers for years. These changes (except for PNG transparency) only work under the <!DOCTYPE> switch to preserve compatibility with previous versions of IE."

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  1. Old News by thinsoldier · · Score: 5, Informative

    that IE blog post is from August.
    Old News.

    1. Re:Old News by Iamthefallen · · Score: 5, Funny

      Old news for nerds.
      Stuff that used to matter.

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  2. Re:CSS Opacity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You said almost precisely this comment the day IE 7 came out. I remember laughing at your crying.

  3. Re:is it too much to ask? by Lex-Man82 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It's be nice if Microsoft provided a list of every single unfixed bug in IE7 as well." There ain't enough storage space on the Internet for that.

  4. Re:PNG Support by masklinn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'll still have to cater for IE6 or a loong time, especially since IE7 can't be installed on Windows 2000 or Windows XP SP1...

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  5. Re:is it too much to ask? by masklinn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why would they when other people are already doing that

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  6. IE7 zoom is completely borked by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hi all,

    IE7 isn't ready yet; it needs more testing!

    For example, create a super basic html page. Within the <body> insert a single <p>aragraph, and within that paragraph, insert a(<a href="#">) link (</a>) - insert it somewhere after the start of the paragraph and before the end. E.g.

    <body>
    <p>This is a <a href="#foo">test link</a> for checking IE7 links</p>
    </body>

    Okay, view the page. It looks fine. Now Zoom 125%. The underscore below the link is rendered funny, and even better, if you move the mouse over the link, you'll find the mouse :hover events START BEFORE where the link is rendered and END BEFORE the rendered link ends.

    *I believe* if the link has a background colour, then this background is rendered in the wrong place also.

    Quite honestly I don't know how MS could've missed this... but there again....
    Z.

  7. Re:PNG Support by Evan+Meakyl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Tried to hack the installer (update.inf file, to be correct) in order to install it on Win2k. The process starts, but ends saying that the cryptographic services isn't running... Does someone has an idea to bypass this?

  8. On other news... by Yuioup · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... Firefox 2.0 is available on Mozilla's FTP.

    (I'm using it right now).

    http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefo x/releases/2.0/

    Y

  9. Re:PNG Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It involves starting the setup procedure, and then replacing the hacked inf with the original before the cryptographic service (yes, it has to be in manual or automatic) can verify it. This is easier to do with a slow computer, of course (you may need to write a batch file if you run a modern processor). At least, this works to install WMP11 under Server 2003. What'll happen with IE7 under W2K is very much a mystery, though I'd be surprised if your explorer shell still worked after completing setup.

    I'd try this in a VM first, if I were you.

  10. Re:*Yawn* by Kjella · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You're quoting CSS 2.1 Conformance only. The full list of compliance tests (IE6,IE7,FF1.5,Opera 9, impossible to align well):
    CSS 2.1 Units 96% 96% Y 97%
    CSS 2.1 Importance I I Y Y
    CSS 2.1 At-rules 21% 21% 43% Y
    CSS 2.1 Basic selectors 23% 64% 86% 77%
    CSS 2.1 Pseudo-classes 29% 36% 93% 93%
    CSS 2.1 Pseudo-elements 25% 25% 63% 63%
    CSS 2.1 Basic properties 55% 58% 97% 97%
    CSS 2.1 Print properties 38% 38% 42% 92%
    CSS 2.1 Conformance 43% 43% Y 86%


    When you look at the grand total at the bottom here you get:

    CSS 2.1 support:
    IE 6: 51%
    IE 7: 57%
    Firefox 1.5: 91%
    Opera 9: 94%

    So, this shows that
    a) IE7 is an improvement over IE6 (though admittingly not impressive)
    b) Firefox isn't perfect, like you'd be mislead to believe
    c) Opera is actually the most standards-compliant browser

    But hey, there's lies, damn lies and statistics, but noone would ever use that to try to make closed-source appear worse than it is, and open source better than it is would they?

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  11. Re:PNG Support by Teilo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How elitist of you. Meanwhile, we web developers who actually expect to get paid, have to face the reality of the market. Try to pitch this to the CEO of XYZ corp: "Oh, and by the way, 50% of your potential customers will have to change to a different browser." Get real.

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