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Details On IE7 CSS Changes
writes "IE development team has released a list of CSS changes for IE7. Some of the notable new features are enabling :hover for all elements, and implementing position:fixed, and PNG transparency support. In addition, there is a long list of fixed bugs that plagued previous IE browsers for years. These changes (except for PNG transparency) only work under the <!DOCTYPE> switch to preserve compatibility with previous versions of IE."
that IE blog post is from August.
Old News.
They still continue to work hard to implement the CSS2 spec which came out 8 and a half years ago.
I'm excited to see if they can implement CSS3 in time for my retirement in 30 years.
Keep your node to the grindstone kids, I know you'll get there!
Help me take back Slashdot. When did 'News for Nerds' become 'FUD and Conspiracy Theories for Extremist Nutjobs'?
"In addition, there is a long list of fixed bugs that plagued previous IE browsers for years"
It's be nice if Microsoft provided a list of every single unfixed bug in IE7 as well.
Where were you when the voynix came?
You said almost precisely this comment the day IE 7 came out. I remember laughing at your crying.
You'll still have to cater for IE6 or a loong time, especially since IE7 can't be installed on Windows 2000 or Windows XP SP1...
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Hi all,
:hover events START BEFORE where the link is rendered and END BEFORE the rendered link ends.
IE7 isn't ready yet; it needs more testing!
For example, create a super basic html page. Within the <body> insert a single <p>aragraph, and within that paragraph, insert a(<a href="#">) link (</a>) - insert it somewhere after the start of the paragraph and before the end. E.g.
<body>
<p>This is a <a href="#foo">test link</a> for checking IE7 links</p>
</body>
Okay, view the page. It looks fine. Now Zoom 125%. The underscore below the link is rendered funny, and even better, if you move the mouse over the link, you'll find the mouse
*I believe* if the link has a background colour, then this background is rendered in the wrong place also.
Quite honestly I don't know how MS could've missed this... but there again....
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Only listing shortcomings where support is present in all or nearly all of Firefox, Opera, Safari; the majority of its competition.
But it's still a huge improvement over IE 6 standards-wise, and I think Microsoft did a pretty good job taking their ancient IE 6 code and doing something decent out of it. IE 7 adds support for all CSS selectors, and even handles the + selector better than Firefox, applying styles correctly in dynamic updates.
Maybe with IE 8 they will be even more competitive with the browsers of today, standards-wise.
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Did somebody at MS hold a gun to your hand and demand that you use PNG?
Now listen, shee... you're gonna use PNG... and you're gonna like it! Or my six-shooter may have to loose some lead on you, shee? Nyah...
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Tried to hack the installer (update.inf file, to be correct) in order to install it on Win2k. The process starts, but ends saying that the cryptographic services isn't running... Does someone has an idea to bypass this?
... Firefox 2.0 is available on Mozilla's FTP.
o x/releases/2.0/
(I'm using it right now).
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firef
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We have a design spec that we're meant to follow, either we do it in flash or we do it in HTML, CSS with a bit of Javascript and some alpha transparency PNG's.
Which site would you rather go to?
I know which i'd prefer.
I was faced with that exact conundrum a couple of years ago, either I can learn Flash and create a site that is unusable in text browsers, unusable to blind users, unusable to non windows and mac os users and an inability to copy text from the website etc. Or code it in HTML, CSS & Javascript (with a few alpha PNG's) which I already knew. Which the MAJORITY of web devs know.
I created it in HTML, CSS and JavaScript.
That said the site which is still up works fine in IE 7 as well as 6, no need to tweak the JS for the alpha png stuff.
Have you seen the new IE 7 acid 2 test results? http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html# top They made it even better than the old IE. Now there is stuff that moves when you mouse over it and some random scrollbars too! Kudos to microsoft for creativity!
There is actually a work around for IE's lack of transparency support in PNGs. It depends on some clever tricks with CSS and the fact that IE 6's CSS is broken. The only catch is that it is limited to images defined in divs.
/* IE versions prior to 7.0 do not support transparency, so the following is a workaroundi tem_id=217
/* Mozilla ignores crazy MS image filters, so it will skip the following */g eLoader(enabled=true, sizingMethod=scale src='../images/name.png'); /* IE ignores styles with [attributes], so it will skip the following. */ .site_header_name[class] {
taken from: http://www.daltonlp.com/daltonlp.cgi?item_type=1&
*/
#site_header_name {
height: 100px;
width: 702px;
filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaIma
}
background-image:url(../images/name.png);
}
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
It involves starting the setup procedure, and then replacing the hacked inf with the original before the cryptographic service (yes, it has to be in manual or automatic) can verify it. This is easier to do with a slow computer, of course (you may need to write a batch file if you run a modern processor). At least, this works to install WMP11 under Server 2003. What'll happen with IE7 under W2K is very much a mystery, though I'd be surprised if your explorer shell still worked after completing setup.
I'd try this in a VM first, if I were you.
You're quoting CSS 2.1 Conformance only. The full list of compliance tests (IE6,IE7,FF1.5,Opera 9, impossible to align well):
CSS 2.1 Units 96% 96% Y 97%
CSS 2.1 Importance I I Y Y
CSS 2.1 At-rules 21% 21% 43% Y
CSS 2.1 Basic selectors 23% 64% 86% 77%
CSS 2.1 Pseudo-classes 29% 36% 93% 93%
CSS 2.1 Pseudo-elements 25% 25% 63% 63%
CSS 2.1 Basic properties 55% 58% 97% 97%
CSS 2.1 Print properties 38% 38% 42% 92%
CSS 2.1 Conformance 43% 43% Y 86%
When you look at the grand total at the bottom here you get:
CSS 2.1 support:
IE 6: 51%
IE 7: 57%
Firefox 1.5: 91%
Opera 9: 94%
So, this shows that
a) IE7 is an improvement over IE6 (though admittingly not impressive)
b) Firefox isn't perfect, like you'd be mislead to believe
c) Opera is actually the most standards-compliant browser
But hey, there's lies, damn lies and statistics, but noone would ever use that to try to make closed-source appear worse than it is, and open source better than it is would they?
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How elitist of you. Meanwhile, we web developers who actually expect to get paid, have to face the reality of the market. Try to pitch this to the CEO of XYZ corp: "Oh, and by the way, 50% of your potential customers will have to change to a different browser." Get real.
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At my company, I had to install the IE7Block company wide. Unfortunately one of our primary applications (Primavera Expedition) will only work with IE 6.0, not Firefox, not IE 5.5, not Opera. They wrote the app in both Java and ActiveX. Running the web app with IE7 (any version) causes a C++ runtime error and immediate abort.
I personally use/have been using Opera for around a year now. I love the browser and recommend it to everyone, however for this particular application IE6 is a must, unless we are willing to flush a major business app down the toilet.
I don't like it but I can't change it.
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