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Apple Unveils MacBook Pro with Core 2 Duo

daveschroeder writes "Apple has just announced the upgraded MacBook Pro (15.4- and 17-inch models) with the Intel Core 2 Duo ("Merom") 64-bit dual core processor. The standard hard drive sizes have been increased, a FireWire 800 port has been added to all models (again, reaffirming that FireWire, and specifically FireWire 800, is not dead, and that Apple responded to customer requests to add it to the 15.4-inch model), and the optical drive is now dual-layer-write-capable on all models."

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  1. Memory Upgrade Too by ApolloX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also not mentioned is that 2gigs has been made the standard memory size with 1gig only available in the lowest model, with a 3gig option on the 17in version.

  2. Merom, Not Conroe by leipzig3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the Core 2 Duo for laptops is code named "Merom" not "Conroe". "Conroe" is only for desktops. They are virtually identical except for power requirements.

  3. Re:Great. by LurkerXXX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hey troll, those batteries were made by Sony, and they were used by Apple, and Toshiba, and Compaq, and... well, by most laptop manufacturers. Put the blame on the real manufacturer, Sony.

  4. Egads, go configure a comparable Dell!!!!1 by dsginter · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've always been a critic of the premium that one has to pay to get an Apple. So when I saw this article, I was quick to go configure a Dell and point out just how much one can save over the Apple tax.

    But it was 25 percent *more* (at least compared the $1999 MacBook). And you *still* have to waste your time reinstalling Windows to get rid of all the circus-ware that comes on the Dell.

    It really is no wonder that someone is paying Gartner to try and coax Apple out of the PC business. They'd be idiots not to continue selling hardware.

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  5. Re:Overheating with new models? by swid27 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Conveniently enough, this was just covered on /. a few days ago:

    Cool your MacBook Pro

    Basically, it boils down to: "Apple, in its quest for ultra, super-duper quietness, sets the fans to run much slower than the speed needed to make laptops usable on laps."

  6. Re:meh by mgv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, they eliminated the option for a 7200 rpm drive. It's a significant performance hit, if you're doing something that's I/O bound on the hard drive.


    You can get a 7200 rpm drive, its not a standard but its an option. But you have to drop down to 100GB. I think this reflects the manufacturers.

    Bear in mind that the 160 GB drives use perpendicular recording, so they increase the size by increasing the areal density of the data.

    This also means that for a given speed of rotation, it will increase the data rates quite alot.

    Seek times won't be helped by this increase in density however.

    Michael

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  7. Re:DVD drive maker? by jandrese · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't know exactly what kind of Matsushita drive is in the MBPs, but many of them can be flashed to be region free. The behavior you describe is normal for a region locked DVD drive by the way, they're all supposed to work that way.

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  8. Not anymore... by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 5, Informative

    Everyone: Gah! Still only one mouse button!

    Ha.. that gripe is now becoming obsolete. On a MB or MBP, put two fingers on the track-pad and press the 'single' mouse button. You will find this has the same effect as pressing the secondary button button on a WinDell or any other PC laptop. I don't know if this works on the PPC Macs. For the desktop Macs there is plenty of alternatives (Logitech, Macally) if you don't like the old one button Mac mouse or the Mighty Mouse. The latter incidentally includes a second and third and fourth mouse 'button' functionality but the ergonomics are not to everyones taste. I'll admit it took Apple much longer than it should have to remedy the 'missing second button' issue in it's product line, the two-fingers-on-the-trackpad feature on the Laptop line was especially long overdue since the old [Ctrl]+MouseClick was pretty awkward.

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  9. this is incorrect, they have removed the option by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 5, Informative

    "You can get a 7200 rpm drive, its not a standard but its an option. But you have to drop down to 100GB. I think this reflects the manufacturers.

    Apple no longer offers any 7200 rpm drive in the 15" MacBook Pros, at any capacity. It's not standard, and it's not offered as an option. The only place it's still available is in the 17" model.

    Anyone who doesn't believe me is invited to check the Apple store.

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  10. Re:Discounts by darc · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not just that, but if you're a student developer, you can get an even larger discount by getting an ADC membership and using that to take a huge amount off. Student ADC memberships are $99 a year, but the discount is around $500.

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  11. It's the chipset, stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm sure you're wrong. Stop trying to shoot from the hip, and actually read up on the issue.

    The problem is that they're plugging a Merom (Core 2 Duo) into motherboards using the chipset for the original Core Duo (they are forwards-compatible), which is how Mac Mini owners have been upgrading to Meroms for several months now). The Core Duo is 32-bit, while the Merom supports 64-bit. However, the old chipset on the motherboard only supports 32-bit, which means only 32-bit addressing for RAM, which means 4GB maximum. Now, the reason for the 3-4GB discrepancy is the way PCI-e interfaces directly with the memory bus. So video card VRAM etc. eats into that first 1GB.

    Apple HQ knows that people sorely need more RAM, but can't do anything about it until Intel provides them with a supply of new 64-bit chipsets specifically for Merom (Core 2 Duo). This won't be until approximately March 2007.