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If Not America, Then Where?

Wellington Grey asks: "Often during our heated political discussions on slashdot, several people will mention their desire to leave the country. As an American living in England, which sees much the same problems as the US, I often wonder where these Americans would go. So, I pose two questions for the restless: 1) Where would you live, if not in America and 2) What's stopping you from going?"

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  1. Re:Israel by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Israel rocks. I went there on holiday last November and loved it. Great country, great food (which caught me by surprise), great people.

    Yeah, great, if you ignore the whole ground-zero of the apocalypse thing.

    I'd be getting out of Israel before I'd leave the U.S., and I'd certainly not want to be in the U.S.!

    Seriously. Israel is a giant ghetto designed to lure all the Jews into one place for convenient and easy processing. If you are a Jew, Israel is perhaps the least safe country on the planet. Take a moment to note which way the wind is blowing!


    -FL

  2. Re:The Netherlands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    I'm an American living in Noord-Brabant


    Yeah, first mistake, never go to Noord-Brabant. It's like bragging that you moved to the US when finding yourself living in Alaska (maybe Ohio is an even better example ;-)

    I could not trade my US license for a Dutch one- though I have been driving since 1988 in the US,


    Thank god that finally is reality. The trend used to be for Dutch kids to go to Texas on vacation. Get a driver's license within a week and head back to swap it for a Dutch one. No offense, but I believe driving on a good ol' highway is something different than driving in Amsterdam (or any Dutch city). Besides, do you know Dutch traffic rules? Probably not, for they _do_ differ from US rules. ... and of course you're a female driver, which doesn't help *duck&cover*

    Funny though, 'cause my wife -being an Indonesian who came to .nl to study- has no problems with

    1) requirement of studying (she even wants to take advanced Dutch lessons for she believes it helps with getting a job).
    2) getting a permit or renewal
    3) taking driving lessons

    *You* wanted to move to this country, so *you* should make an effort of blending into society.
  3. Re:Sorry, there is nowhere for you to go... by tomstdenis · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I lived near 401/Weston. My neighbours were of all regions of Earth. Barely spoke any English, generally were trashy [e.g. litter on their lawns, in the street], those who had cars were in horrible repair, not clean, probably not emission checked. They drove REALLY bad where I lived, as in going right through stops and red lights. The corner stores were almost all chinese or korean. They stocked shit food that often made me sick [when I first moved in I didn't know better] and are horribly unhelpful people.

    Then you have the nutcases on the bus ... but that's another story.

    Just "living together" is not culture. I used to have real neighbours in Ottawa [and I do now...]. you know, people you could up and talk with without getting the stares from all the other ethnics. We would have common values of decency and co-operate.

    I'm not saying it's peachy perfect everywhere. There are assholes in any city. My point is places like Toronto which are largely immigrant built are really uncanadian.

    Generally i think we ought to impose more limitations on immigrants, and society as a hole. you want to run a corner store? Fine. Stock real food. Not this shit crap you're used to in your third world nation. You want to immigrate here? Fine, learn French or English. Otherwise you're a useless fucking tool and I have no desire to know you.

    i'm so tired of Canada being the worlds dumping ground. How about we seek and encourage talented or otherwise desirable people to immigrate here?

    Tom

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  4. Re:The Netherlands by LWATCDR · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "fear campaign against foreigners, mostly focussed on islamic cultured or coloured people"
    I didn't know that the Dutch where so racist. Maybe we should keep them out of the US.

    Actually I was kidding a little and making a bit of a point.
    You are willing to judge the population of the US by how the current president is represented in your press.
    Frankly all the press is getting to be more and more of a problem. None if it is balanced NONE OF IT.
    In the US the press seems to always want to show on party or the other as STUPID AND EVIL.
    I would suggest to you that in your country that many of the press outlets and political parties are showing the US in the worst possible light.
    The reason is simple. If you want your people to be happy and compliment show them how much better off they are than anybody else. Just look how smart and enlightened you are.

    I am sure your country has many nice people that I would enjoy being friends with. Odds are you might find a place in the US you would enjoy as well. Imagine owning a house with a few hectares of land for what you pay for your home now. Their are places in the US where you could. Imagine living someplace where you could go to the Beach and snow skiing in the same weekend? Oh and a nice drive in the dessert to boot?
    Or try to imagine driving for a thousand kilometers in a straight line and still being in the same country.

    Different places offer different things. It is all what you want out of life. I would love to go your country for a visit if I would be welcome. Would the fact that I am part Native American cause me any problems? Would I have to learn how say, "have a nice day you tiny minded little twit" in Dutch before I went?

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  5. Re:War on Drugs - the American example by Rayonic · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Yeah, because if a couple CIA employees get caught dealing drugs, then they're all evil commie drug traffickers who want to steal your bodily fluids. The fact that they got caught doesn't prove anything because it was all a show and AL QAEDA IS FAKE AND CIA 9/11 ZIONIST PEAK OIL DRILLING IN MY TEETH.

  6. Re:Wow! Re:Marginal Tax Rates by twiddlingbits · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Typical liberal drivel without facts. Go look at http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1321.html and see that the Oil Companies (your favorite target) paid 41% income tax in 2005!!! Also look at http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/article/0,,id=102886,0 0.html which shows the corporations pay a LOT of FEDERAL tax, don't forget the Employment Taxes (i.e. Witholding) are also 50% paid by corporations and State Income Tax. Lots of taxes are treated by Accounting rule as an expense which affects profit, and not on the line that says Income Tax Paid. In addition when the corporation distributes dividends to investors that money is taxed at the individual level so it's DOUBLE taxation. Our military is hardly bloated, if it was bloated why would they still be recruiting and not letting people retire or calling back those they formerly let out? And don't attack the higher earners either, the top 50% of taxpayers pay 96% of income tax. Are you implying the US "Empire" is crumbling? LOL..far from it, we are the only super-power left. We don't have and never had an "empire", we had protection agreements (i.e. NATO) against communism which allowed US Troops in Foreign nations. That's not an empire, and with the fall of the Communists that foreign deployment has been cut back tremendously.