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If Not America, Then Where?
Wellington Grey asks: "Often during our heated political discussions on slashdot, several people will mention their desire to leave the country. As an American living in England, which sees much the same problems as the US, I often wonder where these Americans would go. So, I pose two questions for the restless: 1) Where would you live, if not in America and 2) What's stopping you from going?"
Thank you for ably demonstrating another aspect of Australian life - a frighteningly anti-democratic attitude to dissent.
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And, frankly, we would rather have a pom who loves the country than the whinger who rekons life here is soooooo bad.
Who is this 'we' you speak of? Am I part of 'we'? I thought I was. I guess not.
Come to Australia, we have plenty of land; though we could stand some more water.
Actually, we have an absolutely chronic water problem and can't sustain our current population. We have 'plenty of land' in the same sense that northern Africa has 'plenty of land', i.e. it's mostly uninhabitable desert and the rest is fast approaching its natural limits in terms of water use.
But, please, only if you dont plan to sit around on your fat arse and whinge about everything. Cant stand bloody whingers. We all have to vote here, so any problem you have with your own reality is entirely your problem.
Hitler was democratically elected. A society should be judged on how it treats its worst and weakest, not on whether a bare majority can dictate terms to a bare minority. As it so happens, I can't stand arrogant fools who attempt to stifle legitimate discussion of socio-political issues, so please don't come if you're one of those either.
If you dont like it, fix it, if you cant fix it, deal with it, if you cant deal with it, piss off
Funny, I thought discussing the issues was the way to 'fix it'. Apparently I should just stop 'whinging' though. What is intriguing about your ranting is the assumption that you are the one entitled to make these decisions - what gives you any more right than the 'whingers' who 'can't deal with it' to decide who should remain in the country? And do you, by implication, believe that there is no place for dissent in Australia?
Read Pynchon.
When we moved here from the U.K. some ten years ago, it was a case of "The Aussies will be ok, they've never pi**ed anyone off, who'd want to bother them".
These days, however, we have good old Johnny Howard getting up close and personal with Shrub and Blair, pi**ing everybody off and making us almost as big a target as all the other Iraq invaders. Nice one Johnny.
These days the Kiwi's islands are looking a far better and safer bet.
Go permanent? In your dreams and my worst nightmares.
With all the socialists here on Slashdot, I'm surprised China, North Korea and Cuba haven't been mentioned as potential destinations.
I LOL'd...
Theo Van Gogh was assassinated in Holland by a radical Muslim. No need for some nebulous GWOT, the
"I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
Yeah? And whose land would you steal? Whose water? Whose freedom?
There's a chance that it will improve again, but currently there's a (grassroots/astroturf?) fear campaign against foreigners, mostly focussed on islamic cultured or coloured people,
I expect you have no idea why there might be some concern, or what is being done?
but americans as well (your current president isn't helping your reputation!).
Oh, please! Back that up, will you? I think you've had a few too many "special" brownies.
Hmm...Interesting Dutch blog...
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Except here where we live... Reality.
There is more on earth than is accounted for in your stupid political theories.
The question isn't "where would you go, if you got too mad at America?" the question is "Why are you mad at America?"
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If you hate Don Rumsfeld, but can't state why, you're programmed.
If you remember the Clinton years fondly, but you can't remember which of his policies was so good, you might be programmed.
If you think America has a long history of torture and taking over distant countries, you're programmed.
If you despise Fox News, but haven't watched more than seconds of it this year, yep...programmed.
If you think Rush Limbaugh is a bigoted fat man, you're both programmed AND bigoted; he's lost 100+ pounds...about 5-10 years ago.
During the Clinton Administration, we hit (I think it was) 11,000 on the Dow. Unemployment was low like now, and the ABC (and most other legacy networks) touted this as a superb thing- tantamount to throwing a parade. The other day when it hit 12,000 only one of these networks mentioned it, and they couched it as "While the economy is doomed, the stock market hit a new high today". (Yeah, paraphrased.)
The point is, if you don't pay any attention to the actual news, you're gonna get programmed. Listening to the old-world media is a guaranteed lock on this, and feeling depressed.
The Democrats, favored incredibly by the legacy media, need the economy to look bad, the war to go horribly, etc to regain office. So despite and almost duplicate of the glory years of Clinton is sold to us as doom-and-gloom. The economy is every bit as good as it was under Clinton, and this war is loosing about the same number of men if they had stayed home (about 1200/year accordin the Pentagon). It's no disaster- it's just taking longer than we want.
Democrats aren't just bad at foreign policy- they're deadly at it. Hammas was catapulted to what it is now because President Carter **begged** the terrorists to return our people when they were captured by Iran.
Clinton (and Albright) wanted to quiet North Korea, keeping them from doing anything nuclear during his shift, so they GAVE them two nuclear reactors, a bunch of money AND the promise that we wouldn't go checking on them for five years. So they put Il in the dark with a nuclear erector-set. Now they claim that not talking with them is stupid.
Think I'm just a right-wing wacko? Look these up. If you don't, don't bother leaving the USA; you'll get ticked wherever you go, because you don't pay attention. If you do, you might just be surprised how much information you're missing.
Do you think Limbaugh (for example) manages to have such huge audiences, merely by lying about the Liberals/Democrats? Of course not. So why not listen for yourself and hear the information he cites; he's rarely wrong, unless it's about computers.
In short, if you hate America...you're not paying attention. Please do, and shut up.
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