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Google's Internal Company Goals

Rockgod writes to mention a Google Blogoscoped article about an internal company paper. The paper details Google's big goals and directions for 2006. From the article: "The list included several items, for example: Google wants to have an improved infrastructure to make their engineers more productive. This includes allowing employees to have a universal search tool "containing all public Google information searched on all Google searches." Google also wants to build 10MW of green power to be on track to be carbon neutral. (They also want to reduce "Borg disk waste" by 50%... hmmm, Borg?)

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  1. borg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    i.e. cluster

  2. The Googlesphere by Brothernone · · Score: 4, Funny

    Welcome to the Googlepshere... resistance is futile... but at least we dont have chairs.

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  3. Don't you read Slashdot? by Randolpho · · Score: 5, Funny
    (They also want to reduce "Borg disk waste" by 50%... hmmm, Borg?)
    Clearly "Borg disk waste" means "Microsoft disk waste". Google is moving to a less Microsoft-centric system. They clearly rely far too much on ASP.NET and SQL Server, and would like to become a LAMP shop. They may even be planning their own operating system to compete with Windows Vista.
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    1. Re:Don't you read Slashdot? by DAldredge · · Score: 4, Funny

      This isn't digg please don't make stuff up.

    2. Re:Don't you read Slashdot? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative
      (They also want to reduce "Borg disk waste" by 50%... hmmm, Borg?)

      Clearly "Borg disk waste" means "Microsoft disk waste". Google is moving to a less Microsoft-centric system. They clearly rely far too much on ASP.NET and SQL Server, and would like to become a LAMP shop. They may even be planning their own operating system to compete with Windows Vista.


      Huh??? Google doesn't rely on ASP.NET or SQL Server. Google is the original LAMP shop.

    3. Re:Don't you read Slashdot? by Lemmingue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google's social network http://www.orkut.com/ service is ASP.NET based, and quite slow and unstable - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkut#Speed_and_Relia bility. I wonder why they don't move it to their Linux infrastructure. Maybe it's time.

    4. Re:Don't you read Slashdot? by didde · · Score: 3, Informative


      Hmm, I really don't have a clue as to what platform Orkut is running on. Of course, the URL's on the site uses the ".aspx"-suffix but the returned server header says GFE:

      # curl -I "https://www.orkut.com/"
      HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
      Location: https://www.orkut.com/GLogin.aspx?done=https%3A%2F %2Fwww.orkut.com%2F
      Content-Length: 0
      Cache-control: private
      Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:58:40 GMT
      Content-Type: text/html
      Server: GFE/1.3

      ...perhaps this means they're load balancing or similar, but still.

  4. green power by qw0ntum · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it's really an important step for Google to aim for carbon neutrality, starting with green power. Nowadays green power, green building, and other sustainability practices have substantial financial benefits in addition to their environmental ones. Companies are starting to recognize this too, thankfully--Bank of America has a LEED certified building going up in Manhattan that will save massive amounts of emissions of carbon and other pollutants and save massive amounts of money.

    What makes me happiest about seeing Google do this is that they are such a role-model for next-generation businesses. If Google achieves carbon neutrality, even partially, the message it will send to corporations, start-ups, and individuals will be, "You can be environmentally conscious and financially successful; the two are not mutually exclusive." That's an important message that is only beginning to spread.

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    1. Re:green power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Isn't the message "As long as you leak documents about how you "want" to "be on track" for some environmental criterion, a private, hammock-equipped 767 is above criticism"? Is that the "partially" in "achieve carbon neutrality, even partially"?

    2. Re:green power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Partial neutrality. Right. I think Fox may be hiring. You could go far.

    3. Re:green power by Fozzyuw · · Score: 4, Insightful
      If Google achieves carbon neutrality, even partially, the message it will send to corporations, start-ups, and individuals will be, "You can be environmentally conscious and financially successful; the two are not mutually exclusive."

      I saw a promotional advertisement video on 'green' manufacturing, and while I do not buy into a lot of the whole 'save the world before it is too late' fear, I do believe that the concepts of green manufacturing just plain make sense to some degree.

      Maybe being a programmer and being stuck in too many 'dungeons' makes me feel this way, but adding large windows, more greenery(plants) inside offices and plants (where they do not risk safety obviously) just makes employees feel such much better, that they're happier and more productive, aside from reduced heating bills due to solar heat (though, some factories don't have to worry about producing heat, hehe).

      On the other hand, I doubt there is a lot of start-ups who could afford to invest their startup money on an expensive building, when that capital needs to be spent on... well, getting their company started. The problem always comes down to money, sure long term, it can save you money, after like 20+ years, but the premium on these places are high and most start-ups will move into pre-existing space. And when you want to start a business, you look at a $1 million building or a $10 million building, you're probably going to go for the $1 million building. Of course, if you become Google and light cigars with $100 bills, then you could probably afford a green building.

      Cheers,
      Fozzy

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    4. Re:green power by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "You can be environmentally conscious and financially successful; the two are not mutually exclusive."

      Well, I suppose it might look that way on the surface, but the question of whether that reflects reality is very much in doubt. The question that wouldn't be answered is whether Google is successful DESPITE environmentally conscious policies.

      It all boils down to whether being environmentally conscious costs more money. And looking at whether a company is financially successful (i.e., makes more money than it spends) tells us nothing about that.

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    5. Re:green power by Wellington+Grey · · Score: 3, Funny
      and plants (where they do not risk safety obviously)


      Yes safety first! I do so hate it when the office hydrangea goes on a rampage and kills the interns.

      -Grey
    6. Re:green power by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As technology makes it cheaper you will probably start seeing just about everything generating power. I mean floors have to have a certain amount of give, and carpet flexes when you walk on it - if they were both piezoelectric then just walking around would generate some power. It's not economically feasible to do this right now but it's coming. Structures are flexible, too; if you could generate power from the slight movement due to the wind, thermal differentials, and the slamming of doors (not to mention generating power when a door is opened!) then it would all add up. It doesn't add up to very much, which is why we're not doing it now.

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  5. old news by xTantrum · · Score: 2, Informative

    move along nothing to see here. Not desparaging the submitter of the article but don't we by now know what google has acomplished and hasn't this year. Hit us up with 2007 and i'll mod you up...going once..going twice...

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  6. Carbon Nuetral?...Google really is a good company by JBHarris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You really don't see this very often. What short-term or even mid-term payoff could there possibly be to being carbon nuetral? I don't think anyone can stand back and say that Google fits into the mold of what most Companies in this world have become. I applaude Google. I think they are a role-model that other companies (Including the existing big boys) should strive to be more like.

    This isn't that much of a suprise though. When you have such a great product & a motivated team, you tend to attract the best & brightest. The best & brightest usually have the best ideas....

    Brad

  7. Heard this one before by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Google tries to make sure their tools are running everywhere. In around mid-2006, according to their internal numbers 60 Million Google Packs had been installed, but they still want to increase the deployment... especially for "novice users."
    Doesn't that sound awfully like
    A PC on every desk, and that PC running Microsoft software
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    1. Re:Heard this one before by R2.0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not really. Is there any problem with Snap-On having a goal to have their tools in every toolbox in America?

      If Snapon were MS, it would be ONLY Snapon tools, which fit specially in the Snapon drawers which are installed in every mechanic's toolchest. Craftsman and SK tools never really fit correctly when stored in a Snapon drawers.

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    2. Re:Heard this one before by SunTzuWarmaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most companies have the goal that people will buy/use the things that they make; it is called a business model.

  8. "Borg disk waste" by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Borg waste is disks! Keep that in mind the next time one asks to use your bathroom. Those bastards'll clog up your plumbing with 9000 free hours of AOL.

  9. Products being reduced by 20% by brian.glanz · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The one bit that concerns me as a user was
    the document contains the simple directive "Count total number of Google products and reduce by 20%"
    There have been many Google betas with low user populations, but here in the land of every-Google-launch-is-an-article, there might be a lot of /.ers who put time and effort and personal data into a Google beta only to see it disappear in the next year. Which Google apps are on the chopping block? Will they give users a nice way to export data?
    1. Re:Products being reduced by 20% by ben+there... · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That may mean to consolidate existing services as well, to avoid confusing and diluting the market. For example, Writely and Google Spreadsheets combined to become Google Docs & Spreadsheets. That makes 50% less Google office products. Similarly, things like Froogle and Google Base could combine to become one shopping service.

  10. They meant something else by lpangelrob · · Score: 4, Funny

    No no no, they meant "bork waste". The Swedish chef translation of their search engine is just taking up too much space. Bork bork bork!

  11. Re:The payoff is PR by JBHarris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Except this information was an internal gaol for 2006. If they where doing it for good press...it would have been 'revealed' earlier in the year. I mean think about it...if this was a PR ploy...with no backbone, then they woulda made out with this ASAP. Except they didn't. They made it an internal thing. They didn't announce it, they didn't make any commercials about it.

  12. Re:Carbon Nuetral?...Google really is a good compa by nuggz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PR is an immediate short term payoff.
    Environmentally friendly practices are cheaper mid/long term. They're also more reliable if you consider the rate of electricity generating capacity being added in North America.

  13. Re:This is nice but... by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny
    The key difference is that Google, like Paris, hasn't really earned most of the money they're sitting on
    So... many... possible.. comebacks... *BOOM*

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  14. Re:Carbon Nuetral?...Google really is a good compa by CreatureComfort · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What short-term or even mid-term payoff could there possibly be to being carbon neutral?
    Well, since they are beginning by building a 10MW solar electrical generating station, I would imagine at that scale solar is probably cheaper than the rate they are getting from their electric provider. If not, as a shareholder, I'm upset they are pissing away my dividends.

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  15. 10MW by sallgeud · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not sure I believe they're only using 10MW across their entire worldwide campus. I would bet that's a fair number for their datacenter(s).

    If they were to do this via solar:

        315 peak watts per pannel at 1560mm x 800mm per pannel
        31,746 pannels required assuming peak of 10MW and not constant
        1.248 square meters per pannel times 31,746
        425,000 square feet of space (approximately)

        For those still with me, that's 9.8 acres of solar pannels, producing [in that region of CA] approximately 18GWh per year. That's about $3,600,000 worth of energy per year in CA.

    Some recommendations: Don't just cover the tops of your buildings. Created additional semi-covered parking with solar pannels atop, consider wind. GE makes one of the most efficient wind turbines out there. For each one of those you can fit on your property, you're likely to save about an acre of land required for solar. And though their peak power coverage isn't as great, they're in operation when the sun's down :)

    Unfortunately for google, the wind in cali is not that good for wind power [except offshort]. Though, some parts near the SF area do have slightly better ratings.

    http://www.energy.ca.gov/maps/wind/WIND_POWER_50M. jpg

    I think the one thing that companies overlook is. There's no absolute requirement that being carbon neutral requires you to power your own stuff with the energy. How about investment in a wind farm in southwest kansas [excellent location for wind power]. Or 10 acres of Solar pannels in Mexico? I think helping Mexico reduce carbon usage is probably better (polution wise) than helping the US...

  16. Borg by Creepy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure that it's a reference to the Billgatus of Borg or maybe the old joke

  17. Related and interesting fact by ostehaps · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This morning 50% of Denmark's power supply was covered by wind power, due to a storm. During the peak (at 4 in the morning) it reached 80%. Generally about 20-25% of power is supplied by wind here.

  18. Re:Carbon Nuetral?...Google really is a good compa by sadr · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you'd bothered to read their IPO or other documents, you'd know that common shareholders have nearly no control over the company due to the voting structure the owners set up.

    They note that their policies may not maximize profit. Their policies are set based on doing what's right, as deemed by the founders.

    Maybe you should sell your shares.

  19. They didn't "announce" it... by blueZ3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yet. Officially.

    If you think that someone is posting "internal" goals on the Internet without at least the tacit approval of the company, you're drinking Google's cool-aid. On top of that, you don't get as much bang for your buck if you announce in 2006 "We're going to strive for carbon neutrality sometime in the next couple of years" as you do announcing in 2007 "This year, Google met an 'internal' goal of becoming carbon neural."

    I'm not saying that there isn't some portion of this that's genuinely driven by the desire to be a "good corporate citizen." Certainly it is possible, especailly for a company, to have multiple motives in pursuing this sort of goal. I'd even go so far as to suggest it's more likely that this sort of thing is done for many reasons instead of merely one.

    As mentioned before, they have a good product. But their provision of an adequate search tool (for profit) hasn't completely eliminated my interest in rationally assessing their motives.

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  20. borg.google.com by Blighten · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Reading the comments of the article, "Jake" suggests that borg refers to borg.google.com, a very important internal subdomain. (James Bradbury)

    A quick search revealed:

    Google Finance Leaks Version Two Information (Search Engine Watch Blog, 2006-07-21)
    Garett Rogers stumbled upon a link in Google Finance at the top right corner that said "v2 (test)" in red font. The link points to http://0.frontend-live.sfe.scrooge.hs.borg.google. com/finance, which seems to not be accessible from my location, or outside of Google's network. Notice the sign of the borg again? borg.google.com from before. So, now we have rumors that Google is going to be launching a version two of Google Finance soon. Maybe it includes stock indices from other worlds? :)...
    (http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/seo-news/topic -16812.htm)

    I found this to be a little funny as well.

  21. No chairs by joshsnow · · Score: 4, Funny

    Welcome to the Googlepshere... resistance is futile... but at least we dont have chairs.
    And neither do we have Steve Ballmer to throw them...

    1. Re:No chairs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      First time, I read it as "And neither do we have Steve Ballmer to throw at them"

  22. Goals for 2007 by lazlo · · Score: 2, Funny

    And their goals for 2007 include becoming uranium-neutral. Perhaps in 2008, they'll be helium-neutral.

    By 2020, they hope to be matter-neutral.

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  23. I work at google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Borg disk waste refers to the unfortunate results of an experiment creating autonomous software-based administrators. They had code to spread to different machines around the world (much like a trojan, but with good intentions). Unfortunately, they ended up doing this a little too well, and ended up archiving much more content than was originally intended... on servers across the world.

    They use pagerank to determine what needs to be archived more/less, but the algo is too agressive... and the only way to communicate with them is on a one-by-one basis. Once you get one archiver killed on the machine, another is likely to be placed there by a different archiver.

    Last march everything went wild and almost brought us down. They're nicknamed borg since they take over just about everything they touch. Since then we've created new bots to fight the archivers... the fight is predicted to continue well into next year.

    (posting anon for obvious reasons)

    1. Re:I work at google by maximander · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Informative? Beh, should be tagged Funny. Would make an awesome, cheesy hacker movie though.

  24. You are full of shit by Wee · · Score: 5, Insightful
    That's all 100% BS, man. It's complete nonsense. Sorry. Nice try, though.

    -B

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  25. Re:Ping-pong tables by LordOfTheNoobs · · Score: 2, Funny
    Ping-pong tables
    (Score:-1, Troll)
    by tritonman (998572) on Friday October 27, @09:55AM (#16608330)
    If they want to make the engineers more productive, they need to remove the ping-pong tables!

    -1 troll on a comment that removing pingpong tables might increase productivity?

    I guess google engineers get karma, too.
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  26. Re:Carbon Nuetral?...Google really is a good compa by LauraW · · Score: 3, Informative
    Here's the document I think he was referring to Original IPO Letter. Also, investor.google.com has various other stock- and IPO-related documents, I think.

    Disclaimer: I work at Google.

  27. Re:Carbon Neutral?...Google really is a good compa by ClamIAm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They're also more reliable if you consider the rate of electricity generating capacity being added in North America.

    And more specifically, Google's main offices are in California, so this also pays off in the categories of "outage prevention" and "minimization of utility company shenanigans".