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Vista Gets Official Release Dates

SlinkySausage writes "Five years, three months and five days after Windows XP made its debut, Microsoft will usher its next-generation OS onto the stage. Microsoft has set November 30 as the release date for Vista (and Office 2007) to business customers and January 30, 2007 as the date for the official launch to consumers and The World At Large."

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  1. I've been running it for years! by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    But I liked it better when they called it OS X!

    J/K, I'm not gay.

  2. 535? by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Surely there's a numbering system where this reads "666".

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  3. Christmas Shopping! by NineNine · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just in time for Christmas Shopping Season! I'm getting everybody in my family a shiny new End User License Agreement (EULA)! I can't wait for Christmas morning around the tree, when we all get to click "Accept" together! Now, that's what I call quality family time.

    1. Re:Christmas Shopping! by Sparr0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Everyone knows you are supposed to let the cat click Accept, just in case some crazy judge somewhere rules click-through licenses binding some day.

  4. Re:All in all... by Czar+the+Bizarre · · Score: 2, Interesting

    funnily enough The Wall was released on the same day (albeit in 1979).

  5. Why is the delay such a big deal? by wizrd_nml · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let me say up front I consider myself computer savvy but definitely not a programmer or an expert. My question to everyone is, why is everyone so upset about how long it's taking for Windows Vista to come out?

    As far as I can see, Windows XP, with patches, a firewall and Firefox seems to be working fine. I don't feel the need to upgrade as soon as Vista comes out.

    They're late on the deadline they originally set for themselves. But I don't see anyone else losing any sleep over it.

    1. Re:Why is the delay such a big deal? by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My question to everyone is, why is everyone so upset about how long it's taking for Windows Vista to come out?

      The logic is simple. Slashdotters, and a lot news/blog sites just become artificially "upset" at everything Microsoft does. So don't be surprised.

      Vista delayed? OMG we're upset!
      Vista release dates announced? OMG we're upset!
      Microsoft patents something? OMG we're upset!
      Microsoft opens the patent of something? OMG we're upset!

      Basically never mind what Microsoft does, is quickly wrapped in conspiracy theories and doomsday scenarios, and frequently the logic is so weak, that the whole thing reads better as light attempts at sarcasm.

    2. Re:Why is the delay such a big deal? by Chicane-UK · · Score: 2, Insightful

      [i]Contrast that with Win XP which was passed by KDE on XWindows some years ago.[/i]

      Sorry - it one particular area is KDE superior to Windows XP?

      I've used Linux (and of course desktop platforms such as KDE and Gnome) for over 9 years - and whilst I could wholeheartedly say that it has come on leaps and bounds in that time, i'd still maintain that the Window Managers still have some way to go before they feel completely integrated into the system, and as usable as Windows is.

      Perhaps i'm just more used to Windows as its what I (have to) work with on a day to day basis but I simply just do not agree that KDE is better (at least from a usability, looks or performance perspective) than Windows XP.

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    3. Re:Why is the delay such a big deal? by baadger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SP2 was a gigantic jump in terms of security, but it was a far cry from a "new OS" by respectable standards (Maybe by Microsoft's). The problem with Microsoft is they don't seem to take the time to make any *non-essential* improvements to their OS's once they're out the door. IE7, and perhaps WMP 10, surely must be the only things MS has ever released to improve the user experience in XP and they only exist because of Vista.

      Sure, fancy new apps and UI's should be saved for new versions (like Vista), they have a business to run after all, but what about improvements to CPU scheduling or memory management?

      Linux (2.6.18) performs *much* better under load than my XP x64 installation which is always swapping out when it doesn't need to (When *I* notice a performance hit when I have free RAM going to me that means the algorithm obviously isn't right for desktop use) and grinds to a massive halt under heavy CPU load. When I copy a large file from one disk to another in Windows I may as well just go make a brew because the XP shell itself becomes as slow as frozen tar. Linux remains interactive even under 100% cpu load or when moving large files around across disks.

      Anyone who tells me that XP have made improvements in this area has to be joking. Sure they may have put in some tweaks here and there, but it's marginal if anything and not on par with other OS's in 2006.

      IMHO Microsoft should release two versions of their "Service Pack"'s, one purely a security response roll-up *plus updates to improve to underlying architecture (kernel updates)* and the other a bundle of applications and UI/user experience enhancements like we're getting in Vista. People could pay for the latter. Then they should release these upgrades incrementally every year *on the dot* and do away with the stupid 5 year life cycle. Yes this is like Apple does it and it does it better better. As someone who's never used or bought a Mac in my life, I still think Microsoft need to take a page out of Apple's book and adopt some of their practices.

      Vista will be the same old flawed release, it'll be glitchy until service pack 1 and Microsoft will never release anything other than essential security updates for it through Windows Update. The Ultimate Extras thing will be a joke because noone will use it after shelling out hundred's of dollars already.

      All I'm saying is Microsoft need to wake the fuck up and realise people don't want to run Windows Update and see 60 obscure looking boring security updates and hundreds of meg to download. They want to see "Update: Improvements to the look and feel of IE7", "Update: Improvement to desktop responsiveness under load" and "Update: Improve ease of use of ripping music with WMP" and i'm sure if people saw these updates flow out of Redmond on a reliable basis they would be willing to pay for them on a yearly subscription basis if it was fairly priced.

  6. Breaking news by ameyer17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unseasonably cold temperatures predicted for November 30th in Hell.

  7. Someone start a pool by Trikenstein · · Score: 2, Funny

    on when the first patch will be released, and another for SP1

  8. Can't Wait for Apple by Killer+Eye · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Somehow, I see this going a little like Apple's surprise price reduction for the iPod just before the Zune came along: Microsoft employees scrambling to hack some last-minute changes into their strategy after hearing what Apple is doing.

    So imagine MacWorld just before this January 30 Vista release. Jobs has already shown he's not too afraid to take a stab at Redmond. We all expect some surprise Leopard features that speak for themselves, but expect some intentional jabs as well. Maybe even a TV commercial campaign to steal thunder from the TV campaign Microsoft is sure to launch (because they always do).

    Personally, I predict the real show-stopper will be a surprise price reduction from Apple. Seriously, if they knocked Leopard *down* to $99 or something, Microsoft would be looking really bad.

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    1. Re:Can't Wait for Apple by gordgekko · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Personally, I predict the real show-stopper will be a surprise price reduction from Apple. Seriously, if they knocked Leopard *down* to $99 or something, Microsoft would be looking really bad.
      Yes, just imagine all the Mac owners who were waiting for Vista. Now they'll have to make do with OS X running on their Apple-branded computers.

      How exactly is this going to affect Microsoft exactly? You really think the average Wintel user takes notice of Apple OS pricing?

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  9. oh my by chowdy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Repent the end is extremely fucking nigh

  10. Re:better than linux by Jekler · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm going to take a 6 month sabbatical to meditate on your words. There's just something deeply compelling about what you have to say that fills me with a sense of longing for a truer understanding of this wacky universe of ours.

    Thank you fellow scholar. You have changed me.

  11. 5 years, 3 months, 5 days... Yet still... by Beren · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...manage to beat Duke Nukem Forever.

    According to this page, DNF has been in (in)active development for over 8 years...

  12. University licenses by thesupermikey · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anyone have any details on which flavor of Vista will be made available for university licenses?

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    1. Re:University licenses by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ghost Busters!

      KFG

  13. Re:Do we care? by HiVizDiver · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... who could then probably go out and buy an original Xbox AND a copy of Halo 2 for a hell of a lot less than the cost of upgrading to Vista...

  14. Re:aka Corporate version by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

    The reason for this is that Microsoft wants to pretend it's shipping Vista in 2006, but no enterprise customers are going to install a brand new OS without months of testing. Microsoft knows this, so they're releasing to those customers, celebrating the faux RTM, then spending the next couple of months actually bugfixing and polishing Vista and "really" releasing next year on January 30.

    Don't let them fool you--Vista is being released on January 30th, 2007.

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  15. Re:Sucks to be a computer vendor by dreamlax · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Toshiba pride themselves in being a "genuine" Windows provider (I work for Toshiba). Although, quite a few laptops have a second partition on the hard drive which is a media player. Basically instead of booting to Windows it boots to this small OS that just plays DVDs so you don't have to wait for Windows to load . . . and guess what OS that might be? Yeah . . . Linux. And, for a very, very, very brief moment, you can see the words "Loading bzImage...".

  16. Because it is a big deal, IMHO. by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm looking forward to DX10, lower CPU usage (because the UI is run on the GPU), the ability to prioritize I/O (no more 10 fps in games if you move big files around on your computer at the same time), SMB 2.0 (transfers should survive now if the network is disconnected for a moment), virtualized registry (programs run in their own little world = less fudging around with regedit to clean up broken stuff), improved windows APIs (this is mostly for us programmers), improved audio system (ability to mute/adjust sound per application instead), multitasking of GPUs, general bugfixes and improved stability. This was just off the top of my head.

    A better question would be why some people (excluding mac & linux users :) are not looking forward to Vista? Aside from the DRM (which will be promptly cracked), that is.

  17. Not That Simple. by Jaruzel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, it's not that simple.

    The days of snagging your works (or a friends works) Volume Licence Key are over.

    Vista corporate licencing now has the OS pinging a Corporate Licence server which in turn keeps track of how many clients are out there, it then pings MS which greenlights whether that org is still within licencing terms or not. The actual system is a bit more in depth than that, but essentially that's how it works. If the client can't ping the licence server within 90 days, then the client goes into 'reduced functionality mode'.

    So even though I would never condone actually hacking the OS, the only option to the pirates is to patch the OS to bypass the Licence Server ping. But I'm sure MS have forseen that and have all manner of checksum systems in place.

    -Jar.

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  18. Re:Why the wait? by iainl · · Score: 2, Informative

    Would you consider buying a new PC with XP installed after Vista hits the shelves?

    Of course not. ISVs etc. get Vista a couple of months early so they can get their inventory built up and tested to go on the shelf the same day as the boxed CD. Enterprise customers get downloads from MSDN without having to wait for loads of discs to be pressed and shipped to them, or full-colour pretty boxes with manuals. Also, if you think Dell have some work to do to ensure their hardware all works with the final release, think about the testing all the software vendors have; just because it was all working with RC2 doesn't mean it still does.

    So yes, there are plenty of things that both Microsoft and 3rd parties have to do between putting an ISO up on MSDN and the consumer release date.

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  19. Re:Hardware... by Gernok · · Score: 2, Informative

    Geforce 8800 GTX's are set to release on the 8th... There were a few places where breifly they were available early... Details on the g80 gpu

  20. Re:All in all... by Cctoide · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's a consp^[NO CARRIER]

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  21. Rushed out the door... by Kildjean · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think they are rushing it out the door. They know Apple will release Leopard on Timee and it would really hurt Microsoft if apple Launches 1st than their grand product. Most Enterprise and Crporate business will not upgrade to Vista for at least another year. They have enough trouble winth windows xp as it is. and by the time Regular users install vista, Leopard will be out rocking since day 1.

    I think Apple is more organized when launching a new OS , Microsoft is jas noisy as any makle, loud and with bragging rights but has premature ejaculation problems.

    It will take vista at least a year to be where its supposed to be after all the bug fixes it has to undergo.

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  22. Re:aka Corporate version by indifferent+children · · Score: 2, Funny
    I wonder what tricks they have up their sleeve to make life more difficult for users?

    Vista.

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  23. Re:Switch to Linux? by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Informative

    In most areas. What's lacking is a DirectX equivalent to woo over the game developers.

    Something like SDL? SDL is today a mature and stable library, already used by a lot of games, both commercial (notably the Unreal series) and OSS.

    In my experience, games suported both on Windows and Linux run awfully smoother on Linux, for some reason. Load times are also reduced by half.