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Machine Gun Sentry Robot Unveiled

mpthompson writes "Samsung has partnered with a Korean university to develop a robotic sentry equipped with a 5.5mm machine gun. Meant for deployment along the DMZ between North and South Korea, the $200,000 robot employs sophisticated pattern recognition software for targeting humans. No three laws here, but the robot does include a speaker that can be used to politely issue a warning before taking the target out. The promotional video is both scary and funny at the same time."

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  1. OMG! by novus+ordo · · Score: 5, Funny

    real-life aimbot

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    1. Re:OMG! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wow, I haven't had to go through 3 blogs to get to the source article before. Here it is: the article.

    2. Re:OMG! by SnowZero · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Think about the alternatives... Given the 1+ million strong army north of the border, and the questionable sanity of the leader controlling it, that border must be defended. The numerical superiority means some defenses must be automated, leaving land mines as the only existing technology. This robot is far better than a land mine however; It can be switched off, can be configured to give a warning, and can be removed easily when it is no longer needed. Land mines have none of these properties.

      Would it be nice to live in a world where such things were not needed? Of course. I'm not going to blame the South Koreans at all though, given the realities of their situation. Maybe it will even let more countries sign the land mine treaty/ban. The US, for example, could buy these for defending Guantanamo, and remove the land mines we have placed there.

    3. Re:OMG! by jamstar7 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      This robot is far better than a land mine however; It can be switched off, can be configured to give a warning, and can be removed easily when it is no longer needed.

      If these things are radio-controlled, they can be hacked. Don't think the North Koreans won't be working on that. And speaking from experience of my misspent youth 30ish years ago, I can categorically say it's easier to defeat an electronic/mechanical/computerised system than it is to defeat a Mark 1 calibrated eyeball. Gotta love statutes of limitation. I'm thinking Sanyo's gonna make a killing (no pun intended) at $200k per.

      Land mines have none of these properties.

      Dumb mines are dirt cheap, too. Not a whole lot of markup or chances for cost overruns and such. And they have a proven track record of area denial.

      Would it be nice to live in a world where such things were not needed?

      Absolutely. Unfortunately, they won't sell anybody a shuttle ticket to that world. Know any sane, moral, legal way to change human nature? I don't. It gets me when I hear somebody say things like 'Well, if we don't provoke them, they'll leave us alone' and 'If we all give up our guns, the world will be SUCH a better place. Great idea. You first.

      The US, for example, could buy these for defending Guantanamo, and remove the land mines we have placed there.

      Or, here's a thought. Buy a few thousand of these for 'inner city urban warfare' er, 'police useage'. Yeah, that would work. I'm just curious if any counters to them that show up on the Internet would be considered covered by the Second Amendment.

      Yeah, I love my country. My government, OTOT, scares me shitless...

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    4. Re:OMG! by ricky-road-flats · · Score: 5, Funny
      Think about the alternatives... Given the 1+ million strong army north of the border, and the questionable sanity of the leader controlling it, that border must be defended.
      I see what you're saying - the Mexican government is going to be *really* interested in this!
    5. Re:OMG! by mutube · · Score: 5, Funny
      It could get worse though if some off-shore programmer detects a way to detect U.S. citizens.

      BMI.
  2. I WANT ONE! by the_hoser · · Score: 5, Funny

    This thing would pwn jehova's witnesses!

  3. Lets just hope... by shadwwulf · · Score: 5, Funny

    it doesn't like to hunt for it's own bacon.

  4. Interesting if used a little different... by mkettler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I could very much see something like this being very useful in the US if the armament was different. I'm picturing something armed with essentially a paintball gun loaded with balls of marker dye... Might be very useful for places like prisons, etc. It might even be useful as a part of a bank security system. Have it mark them with paint as they leave..

    Of course, the liability of it hitting someone in the eye would be a killer, but it is at least interesting to think about what could be done with such a system if armed with non-lethal weaponry.

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  5. Re:Polite Warning! by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Ah-ah, I know what you're thinking, punk. You're thinking, 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' And to tell you the truth, I've deleted that information in all the excitement. But being as this is a 5.5 caliber machine gun, a reasonably priced weapon for developing nations, and has nigh infinite ammo, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, PUNK?"

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  6. Re:Overpriced and vulnerable by NinjaFarmer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think there should be an international treaty banning all lethal weapons without a brain attached to the trigger.

  7. Oh come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can't just up and *ban* the U.S. Marines!

  8. Welcome to the Free World? by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When people escaped the DDR (East Germany), specifically over the Berlin Wall - the West Germans helped them in any way possible with open arms, short of provoking war.

    Now we shoot them?

  9. Mod parent down "missing the point" by adamkennedy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a machine gun for the Korean demilitarised zone.

    There's nobody in there that isn't an enemy, and there's nobody in there that isn't armed (or at least, it doesn't matter if they are or not).

    And if it accidentally shoots the odd deer, then nobody cares.

    Further, the whole point of talking is to prevent accidents with North Korean troops seen by accident out fishing or something.

    You can bet your ass at the first sign of real trouble, they'll all be set to "kill on sight".

    Take another look at the context of where this thing will be actually used, then try commenting again.

  10. Long List of Problems by Wes+Janson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As others have pointed out, this concept has a tremendous number of issues that would have to be overcome for it to be worthwhile. First off, these units would be incredibly vulnerable to long-distance fire from heavy-caliber anti-material rifles. It's practically the most ideal target imaginable for a .50 BMG shooter: large, immobile, limited lethal range, and no human suffering upon destruction. Anyone else notice that those prototypes look to have M249 SAWs in them? You can see the tail end of a belt feeding in during part of the video, and it's the most likely possibility for a small 5.56 belt-fed. Except there doesn't seem to be any provisions for decent ammo storage. That tiny box that the weapon sits in isn't nearly large enough to hold more than a hundred rounds or so at most, and it doesn't really look like the weapon is designed to be fed from the base (ammo exposed to the elements; feeding issues; turret rotation and elevation interfering with feeding). Overall, it looks pretty well useless.

  11. Re:Polite Warning! by LordEd · · Score: 5, Funny

    It looks like you are entering my firing range. Would you like help with this feature?

  12. Those are the main problems you see? by caitsith01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about:

    - inability of current computer vision and AI technology to make sufficiently informed decisions about threats

    - massive moral issue of allowing an autonomous device to kill humans without specific targeting by a human operator

    - probable violations of laws of war and humanitarian laws as a result of the above

    - fact that military-industrial complex can waste money on shit like this when there are people starving on the same planet

    I see these as slightly more problematic than whether it has enough frigging ammo.

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  13. Re:We're Winning Again by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just because the war ended

    The war didn't end. That requires a surrender or peace treaty.

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  14. On threads like these, turn off the "funny"... by posterlogo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, if you want to learn anything when it comes to threads like these, tune your preferences to demote posts marked "funny". You'll be amazed.

  15. Mines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Would it be nice to live in a world where such things were not needed? Of course. I'm not going to blame the South Koreans at all though, given the realities of their situation. Maybe it will even let more countries sign the land mine treaty/ban. The US, for example, could buy these for defending Guantanamo, and remove the land mines we have placed there.


    Realistically the land mine treaty is a waste of time. Mines will not be abolished from the battlefield for the forseeable future because they are an extremely effective weapon. Here you have a simple device that can be deployed by minimally skilled troops, it is cheap to manufacture, hard to detect and neutralize and can be deployed from aircraft with great speed for rapid denial-of-terrain as the US military likes to call it. Of all the things that tank commanders fear, they fear mines the most. You can see or detect another tank or a helicopter before it strikes, you can even stand a chance to evade, detect or even destroy and LGB or a missile with a counter measures system but a mine the tank commander can't see or detect rapidly in combat. The same pretty much goes for the infantry, they fear few things as much as mines and snipers. Here is an object that costs what? $50 to manufacture that has the power to scare the shit out of the crew of an M1 Abrams tank that costs $4.3 millon to make and better yet it stands a very good chance of destroying it. You can't beat that combination in terms of value-for-money. Trying to ban mines, land or naval, will go the same way that the various attempts back in the 1930s to outlaw the areal bombing of civillians. It is deplorable, but unfortunately also true.
    1. Re:Mines by James+McGuigan · · Score: 5, Informative

      Anti-personnel mines are fairly harmless against a tank and anti-tank mines can be disarmed by a person. So often they are used together, an anti-tank mine surounded by anti-personnel mines.

  16. Re:Overpriced and vulnerable by v1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You would be amazed what alarms a cat can trip off when they enter "neurotic mode". My cat has repeatedly tripped off a "pet proof" system of dual motion sensors with "pet guard" features. The IR requires a body mass larger than a large dog to trip and the radar is aimed at the 4 ft level and above, both must trip at the same time to trigger the alarm. I'd love to be in the house to see what he's doing to trigger it. Nearest I can figure is he's either flying several feet off the floor while turning corners or is throwing things at the sensors.

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