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Icebergs Sailing Past New Zealand
An anonymous reader writes "A fleet of icebergs is heading north from Antarctica and at least one has reached New Zealand, an event that has not occurred in decades. While not necessarily a consequence of global warming it is very cool!"
i for one hope the iceberg doesnt get cocky and run into a titanic.
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I read about this years ago, a penguin wanted to travel north, so he used an iceberg as a boat. this is what happens when the cinemas run too many penguin movies.
If you must moderate, please moderate as irrelevent, not something bad, because I'm sure someone will find this interest
While not necessarily a consequence of global warming it is very cool!
:) (Laugh, mods. It's a joke.)
Was that juxtaposition intentional?
The Overrated mod is for reversing inappropriate, positive mods, not for voicing disagreement with a post.
The same thing happened last year.
anyone else think this would be the best freakin idea for the next location of Survivor ever: :P
Survivor: That Iceburg Floating Past New Zealand
They could vote each other off as it gets smaller and smaller in warmer water
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Does this remind anyone else of the scene in Brewster's Millions where the guy sells Richard Pryor on a concept to intall a tugboat inside an iceburg and sail it to desert countries in Africa? Maybe nows the time to start looking into this ...
... but this "news" story didn't really warrant much real discussion ... iceburg floats to New Zealand because of benign wind change, more news at 11
I know, I'm completely off topic
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New Zealand thinks they are so special... and they get in the news when they can see an iceberg from the kitchen window.
We get that all the time in Nunavut (canada's newest territory), and you don't see me posting to slashdot about it.
Ha, that would be funny to see someone like president Bush speaking in New Zealand..
"Global warming does not exist!"
(Iceberg floats by in background)
The article doesn't mention global warming at all! I'll agree with the "very cool" part, but mentioning global warming seems unnecessary.
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...by a "necessarily". For future reference EVERYTHING is a consequence of global warming.
Did anyone else parse that as a grammatical error because of the placement of the hyperlink? I think something fun and insightful would come of a study on the different ways hyperlinks interact with their surrounding verbiage.
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Unfortunaly, many sight see-ers received the cold shoulder from the icebergs, whose watery eyes and cold stare spoke of hidden depths.
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A fleet of icebergs ARE heading north from Antarctica.
Goodness, the Nazi's may have been evil, and they may have had terrible aim (as per the Stormtrooper Effect), but they weren't incompetent.
"Fleet" is singular, thus a fleet of icebergs IS heading north. You wouldn't say that the same fleet 'are' heading north, would you?
Yeah - approximately 0 degrees celsius, IIRC.
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After all, they were responsible for the death of Leonardo Di Caprio.
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The icebergs are on a direct collision course with a ranch in Crawford, Texas. At last, Earth fights back!
Why would it have anything to do with global warming? Are people really under the impression that icebergs don't naturally exist and are really a product of the evil Bush administration's plan to cause global warming so they can drown the entire West coast?
Its sort of sad when we have to clarify which stories might have to do with global warming and which don't...
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It's the "Gore effect". Wherever he goes to talk about global warming sees historic cold weather for the duration of his stay.
Gaia hates him for some reason.
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Why is it that when you believe something it's an opinion, but when I believe something it's a manifesto?
I think it's testament to the theories of Global Warming being accurately predicted.
Three days of unseasonable weather in a single location is now proof for a theory that encompasses an entire planet's climate change that would last for (at least) centuries? Why is this modded insightful?
I'm not discounting the theory but people who think that a minor "burp" in the environment around them is proof of something massively sinister going on is insane. How is this different from the Christians who claim that the Revelation Prophecy is coming true because of odd weather patterns?
What the fuck has happened that real science being discarded for knee-jerk reactions is commonplace and winked at around here?
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The global warming supporters would argue that the warmer temps have caused more of the southern ice to break away and that is why the icebergs are available to approach NZ. However apparently these icebergs would have broken away 7 years ago. And in the 1930s icebergs also reached NZ. I don't see any evidence in support or against global warming in this, but I am sure those who try hard enough will find "evidence".
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Oh gees. You do realise that the word kiwi comes from here, right? We have this bird, right? It's called the Kiwi. Nocturnal, rather cute, can't fly, most species are endangered. We're rather proud of it. Anyway, from the name, we get all things "new zealandish" but since that's an awful word, we use kiwi as an adjective for all things relating to New Zealand. (The New Zealand Dollar is known as the kiwi in some contexts, Earnest Ruderford a famous kiwi scientist, just to name two. Wikipedia has some more things that kiwi is often used to refer to.)
In the 1960s or so, we were growing a fruit called a 'chinese goosebury' remarkably well. At the time, there was quite a bit of a red scare, so calling anything 'chinese' didn't really sell all that well. So, some people at Turners and Growers, a fruit auctioneering and resale company, came up with the name 'kiwifruit' to sell these things as. Yep, it's all marketing, but there you go.
Ironically enough, kiwifruit is one thing that the word 'kiwi' *never* refers to in its native country. A New Zealander will look at you very strangely if say you're going to eat a 'kiwi', as we think you're trying to eat our, rather endangered, bird.
And in case you haven't guessed, yes, I am a kiwi.
Whose to say it isn't two fleets currently engaged in joint exercises buzzing the kiwis?
With certain theories, depending on the cause. Really, those theories need to use terms like "climate change" instead to avoid confusion.
Those situations would actually be worse than global warming. With warming, we can just move towards the poles. Maybe things get real bad and Canada is the new Mexico. But with other theories the temperature just gets more extreme, with areas around the equator becoming unlivably hot, areas closer to the poles becoming unlivably cold, and the transition areas becoming more full of violent weather due to the drastic differences in temperature. Decide how likely that is for yourself.
And these icebergs wouldn't have anything to do with any of these theories.
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Why are you ignoring the massive amounts of data which speaks clearly of climate change?
Once again... I said I do not discount the theory. Sorry if this little factoid bothers you but the commonly accepted version of "global warming" is still just a theory. This is what science is all about; you take a series of observations, you try to predict the outcome of a model based on these observations and you retest and see what happens. That's the basics. So far there hasn't been a truly successful model that I'm aware of that can take all the elements of "global warming" and put them together in a cohesive, proven package. (If this is new to you, this package is what is normally called a "law" in scientific circles. Laws and Theories all too often get their terms used interchangeably, which is wrong and this is also what causes some people to think that a theory is somehow proven and correct in the face of all other evidence). While I agree with some of the environmental initiatives of those who accept the global warming theory as a law I don't think we need to run into a "solution" at break-neck speeds. If anything we need more observation and we should start taking steps that make sense in other ways (reducing fossil fuels has a tremendous amount of potential as a movement from foreign oil independence to straight up environmentalism)
Oh right, if you're in the US, the government is suppressing such results in the media, so you'll never see it.
This is another thing I just love about The New and Improved Slashdot(tm). ACs who talk shit on the US acting as if we're somehow censored from the rest of the world. Acting as if people are just being loaded into black vans and carried off in the dead of night never to be seen again. Acting as if the US is a collective with no will of it's own. While I do not doubt that there are all sorts of higher powers that like to dicker in the field of science for their own personal profit we (the US) still have access to all the same information that someone in some other "enlightened" country has access to. Maybe some of the stories that appear in your local paper, assuming you're not an American with a hard on for bashing the current administration, don't hit the front page of my local paper but that doesn't mean I can't find this information via other channels. If you haven't happened to notice; I'm on the same internet as you. And even with all the bellyaching and boohooing I see coming from the likes of people like you I haven't seen any censorship on the internet coming from the powers that be in my country.
My advice? Stop being a smug little asshole and realize that there is far more to the situation both in global warming and the current state of the US than what you see on "the science channel" (*cough* *cough*) and what some people rant on about on the street corners.
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Its called marketing. Of course iceburgs floating past past NZ doesn't mean much empirically, its just one point of data. But it means pictures in newspapers and a bunch of articles written.
Based on pure scientific data its hard to argue against global warming and its cause being increased CO2 in the atmosphere. That argument is won.
The truth is on the side of the environmentalists this time. But the Truthiness is on the side of the oil industry. If global warming is false people can continue driving their SUVs and living in the suburbs. No one wants to have to make the serious changes needed to reduce their carbon output. Its much easier to take whatever anecdotal evidence and make all the rationalisations necessary so that you can continue to feel like global warming isn't true.
Now what do you do to convince someone who wants to believe that global warming is false? sit them down and force them to read a 500 page study on global warming and its effects? That just isn't going to work. Show them an iceburg floating past them and say "that's what global warming does", and you might get somewhere.
It's not science. But its much more effective than pointing to a dry scientific journal everytime someone says "It was pretty cold out today... so much for global warming". Everytime they give an anecdote about how global warming isn't happening you give them two that indicate that it is. That's politics.
It really is unfortunate that global warming is politicized. But now that it is you can't whine about the other side using your tactics against you now can you?
These days you get any freaky weather event, and it gets blamed on global warming. Even when it doesn't make sense.
Surely, more ice making it further north would, if anything, be supporting evidence for datasets that show the oceans are getting cooler? You might also note that some data sets suggest that the global warming trend is not present in the Southern Hemisphere.
There is some evidence that the icecaps melting around the edges, but getting thicker in the middle. Perhaps that's because the Sun's output is a huge factor to global warming, and there are no sunspots this year?