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The Failure of the $100 Laptop?

RobertinXinyang writes "MSN's MoneyCentral has an article on the possibility that the $100 laptop project fails to meet its goals, and the potential of the project to harm people in developing nations. The article goes on to liken the project to 'good-natured showboating', and cites the unreality of a family using the glow from the laptop's screen as the only source of light in their hut. Perhaps there are better things to do with our time and money in developing nations?" From the article: "The entire idea may be misguided and counterproductive. At least that's what Stanford journalism lecturer an Africa watcher G. Pascal Zachary thinks. The basic argument is that with $100 you could almost feed a village for a year, so why waste that sum on a laptop? What are they thinking? The fact that these people need electricity more than they need a laptop is only part of the problem. The real problem is lost mind share. The people are harmed because these sorts of schemes are sopping up mind-share time of the people who might be doing something actually useful."

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  1. Disagree with a point by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The people are harmed because these sorts of schemes are sopping up mind-share time of the people who might be doing something actually useful.

    Computer engineers and software developers are just that - they can create software and build computers.
    They aren't molecular biologists or doctors or anything like that, so its not taking the mindshare from those kind of folks.

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    1. Re:Disagree with a point by vga_init · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Computer engineers and software developers are just that - they can create software and build computers. They aren't molecular biologists or doctors or anything like that, so its not taking the mindshare from those kind of folks.

      Mod parent up

      I previously discussed this topic on an older article about the $100 laptop. Yes, people need a lot of things besides laptops. Imagine the economy in the United States and its trade partners. Pick out all the elements besides money: labor/skill/organization, raw materials, facilities/tools. Now imagine all the money in that economy. We have a lot of money--more money than economic resources. Saying that we could throw more money into food for third world countries doesn't necessarily mean you will get the amount of food you valued your money at. Paying out money to have workers and facilities that are only able to produce computers and software gives third world countries a little something extra. Why? Because those economic resources could not have produced food, so they would otherwise be an untapped outlet. If all the money going into a project like that went into sending food over, you'd probably choke the food supply and incredibly diminish the value of the money you spent on it.

    2. Re:Disagree with a point by jotok · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, they're not.

      These are not targeted at, say, Rwanda, or any other place where someone might end up with a laptop but no food. It's more for places like Brazil, Micronesia, Libya...there are pleny of places that have the food/water/shelter trifecta more or less worked out, whose schoolchildren could really benefit from a cheap computer.

      I don't know why this comes up every time OLPC is linked: "Third world countries don't need laptops, they need food." Not everyone in the "third world" is starving by the side of the road. It's incredible to me that people keep saying that, and I wonder if it's the same people.

    3. Re:Disagree with a point by gonzonista · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Are we doing more harm than good by helping Africans by giving them things? I've only visited, and not lived there, so my impressions are limited. What I did notice was the sense of entitlement, and an underlying system of patronage, where people wanted help from others, rather than moving to help themselves. I suspect this was the product of several generations of colonialism, where there was always a white guy telling the locals how to live. The attitude in much of Africa is much different than that in Asia, which was the third world not that long ago. I never encountered so many people expecting a handout as I did in Africa. It was very common to have someone approach you and ask for something they wanted from you, like a jacket or t-shirt. If we keep providing goods like computers without a context on how to use them to make life better, are we really helping them at all?

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    4. Re:Disagree with a point by ccp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nice post. May I elaborate further?

      I don't know why this comes up every time OLPC is linked: "Third world countries don't need laptops, they need food."

      Maybe because "somebody" is scared stiff at the thought of a few million Linux laptops being given away. I wonder who could it be?

      Not everyone in the "third world" is starving by the side of the road.

      I happen to live in one of the countries that purportedly placed an order. And, just in case someone is wondering, not a part of the ruling elite, not even rich, but middle class. We have a HUGE middle class. We don't live in a hut. We have electricity. And running water. And way better food than I found in the States. And cable TV. And broadband. And computers. And yes, a rugged, simple, unexpensive laptop would be incredibly useful, and not just for children. If the OLPC were willing to sell them for, say, $200 I'd buy three or four. They seem bespoken for my business.

      It's incredible to me that people keep saying that, and I wonder if it's the same people.

      Yes, they are. And the astroturfing is going to get a lot worse.

      Cheers,
      CC
  2. feed a village - goodness by gnufied · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The basic argument is that with $100 you could almost feed a village for a year"

    Ok I am from India so $100 = 4500 Rs, now I would be really delighted to learn how one can feed a village for a year with that much of money. No,I really would like to know...considering the fact that villages in developing countries are genrally big( I can speak for India here, I spend half of my childhood in the most backward region of India, :) )

    I really appreciate intelligence of Mr.John C. Dvorak, but wait...

  3. Poor XOR Rich by arevos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The MSN article is completely correct. Everyone knows that people are either poor, and thus live in mud huts with only a single goat to keep them company; or they are rich, in which case they can afford to buy as many computers as they can fit inside their trendy apartments.

    The creators of the $100 laptop are under the delusion that wealth is not a binary condition. For some strange reason, they seem to think that there are poor people in this world that have enough money to feed themselves and buy essentials, but not enough money or infrastructure to support buying the latest Pentium from Dell. This is clearly ridiculous, and I applaud MSN Money for reminding us that the world really is black and white (no pun intended, ahem).

  4. Feed a man for a week.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    he eats for a week.

    but give him the ability to learn and give him nearly unlimited access to information and knowledge and he can grow crops/produce food/orginize business/etc etc for a life time.

    This isn't about solving the problem for a week. A temporary solution at best, training people to depend on foreign aid in the worst, but about empowering people to create real solutions for themselves.

    Despite what people want to beleive, that african aid will save the world and make them heroes, the only people in a position to help Africans (and other third world nations) perminately is Africans (and natives to those same third world nations)

    That's how it's going to happen. Africans helping Africans. Education and giving people the tools to learn to figure out solutions to their own problems is what is going to solve problems. (that and economic trade)

    Not 'mister white european rich guy' coming around every few months and giving handouts of food and vaccinations. THAT is the real feel-good-happy-bullshit. Not saying it's not needed and people shouldn't be doing it. I am saying it's a bandaid, that's all. Your nursing the wounds (which in itself is valuable), not healing them.

  5. Re:MSN reports... by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Insightful
    No, I think one of two things is happening:
    • This is "negative" publicity intended to call attention to the project
    • MoneyCentral is staffed by folks for whom all things are tactical, and the concept of a strategic project with payoffs in the decade range are like, totally too hard, dude.
    Probably a blend of the two.
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  6. Re:it will work if... by aplusjimages · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And I don't get why people keep complaining that this is a waste of money and they would rather use their money to help those people get food and other types of support. Well there are already programs for that. Why not have another form of help in the area of education and technology. It can run side by side with the people trying to get food and medicine to these underdeveloped countries.

    I think this program could help keep kids, as well as adults, somewhat familiar with the idea of computers. If one day their country is pulled out of the 3rd world era, then they won't be completely foreign to technology.

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  7. "Prioritization" is BS by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Criticizing a do-gooder on the basis that the critic would prefer to use the do-gooder's resources in a different way is fundamentally flawed. That way lies paralysis and doing nothing. It's just a complicated way of saying "be reasonable--do things my way."

    It's like criticizing the space program on the basis that it would be better to use the same resources to fight poverty in the U.S. That point is arguably true, but it's silly, because if we didn't have a space program the political reality is that those resources would not be used to fight poverty.

    The altruistic impulse is not fungible. If you say to Negroponte "we don't want your laptops," he's not going to say, "Great, I'll just fold up the Media Lab and send all its funds to Oxfam."

    I've faced this problem in deciding how to make personal charitable donations. How can one decide when there are so many worthy causes? How can one justify donating to the American Cancer Society when perhaps the American Heart Association would be a better use of resources? Is it frivolous to donate to the EFF instead of sending that money to UNICEF? The only answer is: these are the charities I donate to, you donate to whatever charities you wish.

    Nobody knows how to solve the world's problems. If it were simple and obvious we'd just solve them. The $100 laptop is an interesting idea and it might do some good.

    If not, I'd wager the amount of resources and "mind share" it's diverting from anything are utterly negligible compared to, say, the amount of resources and "mind share" being used in the U. S. to launch the PlayStation 3, or fulminate about O. J. Simpson's new book, or pursue the war in Iraq.

  8. A rebuttal to Dvorak's article by satch89450 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's unfortunate that Mr. Dvorak didn't talk with the proponents of and contributors to the One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) project. He admits he depended on information on a Web site. Normally, this isn't a problem, but...unlike an organization with a for-profit motive with which Mr. Dvorak is used to dealing, there are no PR flacks in this small group of people doing the work. There isn't an army of copywriters keeping the OLPC web site up-to-the-minute. The focus of the OLPC army, about a platoon in strength, is getting the laptop built and distributed, to a price, to a performance level, to a quality level. There are no information officers here.

    As a consequence, Mr. Dvorak's factual basis for his opinions appear to be flawed. That's the problem with fast-moving, lean projects that don't have a profit motive: the worker-bees don't budget time to spoon-feed journalists.

    I base this critique on the facts shown at a presentation I attended last week on the project and its current status. During that presentation, many of Mr. Dvorak's criticisms were answered in full. I'll run down the factual points, based on the information I gleaned from that presentation. I don't vouch for absolute accuracy, as I wasn't taking notes, and I'm not part of the project. Keeping those caveats in mind:

    * Justification: Mr. Dvorak doesn't touch on this issue at all, except in the negative and through the words of another person. He missed the one reason this project is interesting to the governments of the developing nations: it saves money in education.

    Mr. Dvorak, have you looked at the price of school textbooks these days? How much does your local school spend, per year, on books for their kids? In developing countries, the textbook cost may be lower than here but it's still high compared to, say, food.

    (N.B.: The situation in college is even worse. I leave research on that issue as an exercise to the reader, as most of the hits on Google about textbook pricing focus on higher education.)

    You say, Mr. Dvorak, "with $100 you could almost feed a village for a year" but that same $100 doesn't cover educating ONE child for ONE year. You want to fill their stomachs, but starve their brains?

    The OLPC project got the facts from the horse's mouth, the governments who have to somehow educate their children in order to raise the standard of living in their country. The cost of the laptop, roughly $20/year for the five-year life of the laptop, is less than the cost of the books needed to teach the kids. Throw in the infrastructure costs (development of electronic textbooks, "libraries", access points and their connections to a country-wide network) and the country still sees a savings.

    Interestingly, like most "problems", it comes down to money.

    * Manufacturing cost: While the presenter didn't provide a complete bill of materials for the laptop, the cost projections for building the laptop in million quantities falls well below $100 at the current time. Further cost reduction is possible as the laptop matures. The cost projection shown by the presenter was verified by members of the audience who have been on the front lines of manufacturing products like this laptop.

    How much lower can the price go? You know as well as anyone the cost curve over lifetime of a computer product. Is $50 possible?

    * Maintenance: Photos of the prototypes shown at the presentation show a modular approach very similar to that used by IBM in making the PS/2 Model 50 personal computer (and *not* used in virtually every PC made today). The only tool required to service the machines is a single screwdriver. Kids in the US, UK, Canada, and other developed countries have no problems servicing computers *not* designed to be serviced easily by untrained personnel. So the only infrastructure required is a way to get spare parts to those who need them.

    * Networking: The laptops use mesh networking to communicate with each other, and to access points provided as part of the