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Gamers Divorced From Reality?

nd01 writes "According to Gamepolitics.com, Bill OReilly has a few choice words for gamers and computer geeks in general. The well-known conservative pundit has harsh words for iPod owners, gamers, the PS3, and all of us 'disconnected from reality' by modern technological contrivances." From the article: "Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don't deal with reality — ever. So they don't know what day it is; they don't know temperature it is; they don't know what their neighbor looks like. They don't know anything... because they are constantly diverted by a machine. Now what this does is it takes a person away from reality because they've created their own reality..."

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  1. Expert Opinion by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, O'Reilly is certainly an expert on creating your own reality...

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  2. Hey I know what day it is! by Jad+LaFields · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its Tuesday ... says so in the lower right hand corner of my screen!

    Forecastfox has the weather for me, and as for what my neighbor looks like, thats what MySpace and Meetup.com are for!

    What's reality, anyway?

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    1. Re:Hey I know what day it is! by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tell that to his millions of viewers/listeners who not only hang on his every word, but also consider him "independent" and "centrist". O'Reilly is a symptom, not the problem.

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    2. Re:Hey I know what day it is! by 80+85+83+83+89+33 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      even funnier: MySpace is owned by FOX.

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    3. Re:Hey I know what day it is! by curunir · · Score: 5, Insightful
      What's reality, anyway?
      Reality is people from Bill's generation selling our country to corporate interests, destroying our environment, sending our generation off to be killed in Iraq, spending umpteen trillion dollars of money they don't actually have with the full realization that they'll all be dead long before the time comes to pay up and pointlessly banning activities and substances that they only don't partake in because their bodies are too old and frail to allow them to enjoy.

      Reality is that his generation is using their last gasps at power to fuck everything up for our generation. Is it any wonder that we want to divorce ourselves from his so-called reality?
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    4. Re:Hey I know what day it is! by lymond01 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Friend of mine calls Home Owner Associations the "last bastion of fascism in America".

    5. Re:Hey I know what day it is! by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your friend is quite the optimist.

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  3. In other news... by commisaro · · Score: 5, Funny

    O'Reilly went on to describe the new PS3 and Wii as "a series of tubes". Spokepeople from Nintendo responded angrily that this only applies to a small portion of their games.

  4. I tried a divorce from reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    but damn is the alimony a bitch!

  5. I am not disconnected from reality! by fatty+ding+dong · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why just this morning I had to buy gas before work, so I jumped on a turtle and threw its shell at a brick. Unfortunately, no money came out of the brick this time. So I stole a police car and ran over a hooker to get some cash. I got shot by the pimp, but I picked up a backpack with a red cross on it, so it was all good. I did end up 10 mins late to work though.

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    1. Re:I am not disconnected from reality! by zolaar · · Score: 5, Funny
      I did end up 10 mins late to work though.


      See? Real life has consequences.
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  6. Hypocracy? by scot4875 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't really think that Bill O'Reilly is in any position to accuse someone else of being "divorced from reality."

    --Jeremy

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    1. Re:Hypocracy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Jesus was attempting to bring moral values to the people, something that liberals have never done.

      We're talking about the same Jesus, right?

      Conservatives: tough on crime. Liberals: big on rehabilitation.
      Typical conservative quote: "You did the crime, now do the time."
      Typical liberal quote: "Sure, he robbed a store, but his family was starving, and it was a first offence. Go easy on him."
      Jesus: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." "Go, and sin no more."

      Conservatives: big on revenge. Liberals: big on compassion.
      Typical conservative quote: "We should avenge 9/11 by bombing some serious Islamofascist ass."
      Typical liberal quote: "We should fight terrorism with aid and diplomacy, not bombs."
      Jesus: "Love your enemy; do good to those who hate you." "Turn the other cheek."

      Conservatives: big on welfare "reform". Liberals: big on welfare.
      Typical conservative quote: "Handouts create a culture of dependency and encourage people to be lazy."
      Typical liberal quote: "Welfare is essential to fight poverty and give the children of poor parents a decent chance in life."
      Jesus: you may draw your own conclusions from the feeding of the 5,000.

      Conservatives: hate taxes. Liberals: love taxes.
      Typical conservative quote: "We must enact a tax relief package to lift the crushing tax burden on our richest citizens."
      Typical liberal quote: "We must raise taxes to pay for better public services."
      Jesus: "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." See also Jesus' famous friendship with tax collectors, and the incident of the Widow's Mite, where Jesus approved of a poor woman paying crippling taxes.

      And so on. Sorry, but Jesus = Liberal - there's simply no two ways about it.

  7. Opinion Formula by realisticradical · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I think it's just sad that people accept anything that Bill O'Reilley and his brand of pundits say. Their opinions are based on a simple formula of outrage. They simply find an easy target and then express some sort of outrage against that target. Anybody remember last year's "War on Christmas?"

    I wonder if O'Reilley actually believes the things he says or if he understands them to be opinions manufactured for ratings and political results.

  8. Yes, but... by petrus4 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Basically what you have is a large portion of the population, mostly younger people under the age of 45, who don't deal with reality."

    What you and people *over* the age of 45 call reality, I call senile dementia, Bill.

    I can respond by saying that people of the age group you are talking about are entirely the problem. They're just as divorced from reality as anyone else...and the thing is, that although younger people might be divorced from reality as well, they're not able to take their delusion and from that perspective *enact laws.*

    Also, if you really want to go there...younger people on average are a lot more intimate with technological developments, particularly where computers are concerned. We're a lot more likely to understand issues because unlike you and your geriatric peers, we actually have to live with said issues. Your generation aren't the ones who've had to die by the thousands in Iraq...many of you, when you *were* our age yourselves, dodged service...which makes you sending members of my generation off to die that much more disgusting. You're also not the ones who are going to have to deal with the real consequences of what your generation has done to the environment...you'll be dead in 20 years.

    You are a sick, deeply degraded human being, Mr. O'Reilly...and you shame yourself on a continual basis with your entirely voluntary ignorance and rock stupidity. The only thing that keeps me from fervently wishing that you and other individuals like you did not exist is the realisation that in doing so, I would myself go down to your level.

  9. Re:Word. by Maul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My grandfather failed out of school because he preferred to go hunting over going to class.

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  10. Re:How Is This About Politics??!! by heinousjay · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to the unnofficial rules, the politics section is for bashing republicans, or Americans on alternate weeks. Keep up, man.

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  11. Meh. He's just pissed over the Mortal Shot nerf by Lensar · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know he secretly plays a female Night Elf hunter...

  12. Re:Some Truth to This by snuf23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have some points but basically I think you are making some sweeping generalizations.

    "How often do you see kids playing in your neighborhood on a summer's day?"

    This is true, but honestly a large part of it comes from the parents. My mom would let us run about the neighborhood on our own when I was 10 or so just so long as we came back for dinner. Most parents are so paranoid about kidnappings, drugs, pedophiles, drunk drivers and other problems the media exaggerates. They want they're kids to be where they can see them or hear them. Not to mention that in households with two working parents, or a single parent - the kids don't get home from school until 5 or 6pm. Then its homework, dinner, bath and maybe just time for a TV show or couple rounds of Super Smash Bros before bed. After school play time has been replaced by after school child care programs or other activities. Weekend programs are much more common as well. My own kid's weekend socializing is primarily through organized sports and educational activities.
    Kids lives have changed a lot and not just due to video games. Where I live they have a year round program where summer only lasts one and a half months.

    "How many of them are social creatures, going out and partying on weekends etc?"

    All of the ones I know have some form of social life, be it clubs and partying, wife and family or even church groups.

    "When was the last time you sat on your porch and chatted with a neigbor?"
    Well we don't have a porch, but last night on the front steps and usually a couple times a week. Every once and a while we have some drinks and a laugh together outside the apartment after work. And these are not people I knew before moving into the apartment. Nor are they people with similar interests to me. One is a janitor at a local school. I make it a point to know my neighbors to some degree.

    "We don't like to think that maybe we're less social or less connected with the outside world than we should be."

    Why are other communication forms besides face to face bad? I agree that physical body and facial cues are absent. Or in IM so is tonality but thats why IM has such a wide range of terminology to offset that.
    I've made friends in other states and countries through online gaming and while no they could never be my closest or best friends (due to proximity), they certainly have enriched my life. I would say learning first hand from people in other places or situations expands my knowledge of the "outside world" - as in it creates a picture larger than that of my immediate location.
    Kurt Vonnegut in his last book mentions that virtual communities have no value - and yet he went on to promote the book via an appearance in the game Second Life.
    Having worked in media and telecommunications all my life I just don't see increased communications as being bad. It's becoming different but that is just a consequence of the changing world. It doesn't necessarily mean it's becoming worse.

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  13. Re:Pot? Kettle? by StarvingSE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Know why this view is always the case? Because "computer nerds" or technology geeks in general are always criticized for being disconnected from reality. Technology is our hobby, and most people have lives outside of their hobby.

    Why is it that you don't hear about NBA stars disconnected from reality? All they do is live in their celebrity. They live, breathe, and eat basketball. When the day is done, they go out to clubs in expensive cars and live the life of a celebrity. Are these people just as disconnected from reality? Absolutely. Are all NBA stars like this? Nope, because its a generalization.

    I'm sure there are some computer geeks disconnected from reality, but so are plenty of other people, who are into plenty of other things.

    It all comes down to O'Reilly being an idiot and looking to generate some publicity with off-the-wall statements.

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  14. Re:Pot? Kettle? - Logical Fallacies 101 by 'nother+poster · · Score: 5, Funny

    I agree. Attacking Bill O'Reilly is a worthy discussion.