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Plastic Packages Cause Injuries, Revolt

massysett writes "Everybody has been frustrated by plastic retail packaging that's nearly impossible to open. New toys and electronic gadgets arrive encased in plastic bubbles. Manufacturers say the packages protect goods and make them look nice, but opening them can be difficult enough to cause injuries that land people in the emergency room. Manufacturers have an appropriate term for the frustration: wrap rage. One man even invented a cutter designed specifically for cracking open plastic clamshells."

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  1. What do other people do? by ummit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've sure wondered about this. The only reasonable way I've found of opening "modern" plastic packaging is with a pair of aviation snips (i.e. compound-leverage sheet-metal cutters). They work great, but what do people do who don't have them sitting right there in the top compartment of the toolbox in a corner of their living room? And why haven't there been any personal-injury lawsuits yet from all the people who've tried using a box-cutter or other sharp knife, which always gouges out sideways in a wickedly unpredictable and unsafe way?

    1. Re:What do other people do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can order online and they'll arrive at your door..........in a nice, shiny, plastic clamshell

    2. Re:What do other people do? by Numbah+One · · Score: 5, Funny

      Lightsaber.

    3. Re:What do other people do? by Urza9814 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ...scissors.
      I've never had an injury from one of these things. I have a small pair of school scissors (like, 3 or 4 inches long) that work great. Never had a cut from one of these, never had a problem opening 'em. Personally I don't see the big deal. Aviation snips seems quite a bit extreme to me, 'cause I have yet to find a simple pair of scissors that won't do (Though I did once snap the handle off a pair with it. But it was a cheap pair anyways. I caulked it. It's still in my drawer.)

    4. Re:What do other people do? by Ninja_Popsicle · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can also get a pair of curved sissors used for cutting R/C car bodys at a hobby shop for around $5. I use them all the time and find them to be quite effective. I remember there was also a Penny-Arcade strip about this "issue", but I can't find it at the moment. Meh..

    5. Re:What do other people do? by gwyrdd+benyw · · Score: 4, Interesting

      After paying for the item in the store, take it to the customer service counter (or just ask the person at the register) to open it for you (use some excuse like "I have a hand injury and am not too good with scissors right now", if you like). Let the retailer realize just how awful the packaging is.

      I've done this a few times when faced with particularly annoying packaging. Once, they actually damaged the merchandise trying to get it out, so gave me a new one. (I doubt they would have done that had I damaged it myself.)

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    6. Re:What do other people do? by camperdave · · Score: 5, Funny

      My lightsabre is still sealed in its wretched clamshell. No wonder real Jedi make their own.

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    7. Re:What do other people do? by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or go to the dollar store and get those indestructible scissors that "As seen on TV!" can cut through a penny.

      BTW, the plastic clam-shell packaging doesn't piss me off as much as DVD and CD packaging. There's nothing that starts the pounding in my head like the "Peel here" tab that can't be peeled, complete with too-strong glue that forces you to choose between cutting it along the seam with a razor blade and leaving it, or cutting it and then peeling it off from the unglued center, warping and stretching your brand new $23 DVD packaging. (Lets face facts here, I'm paying for the convenience of the packaging (which includes the DVD itself AND the case), not the movie itself, which is available for free (minus ISP costs) online).

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    8. Re:What do other people do? by Ledsock · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Penny Arcade strip can be found here

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    9. Re:What do other people do? by kennygraham · · Score: 5, Funny

      (Lets face facts here, I'm paying for the convenience of the packaging (which includes the DVD itself AND the case), not the movie itself, which is available for free (minus ISP costs) online).

      I would like to humbly thank you for properly nesting your parentheses. You, sir, are truly a programmer.

    10. Re:What do other people do? by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I use a good pair of regular household scissors.

      No, not the kind that are stamped sheet metal that are popular now. The kind that are forged steel. Not that hard to find. And they work fine for cutting the welded seams on this sort of packaging. That's really all you need to do is cut away the welded seams. Which are right out on the edge of the packaging.

      I like this form of packaging, because once you know how to open it, if you need to return an item, everything just slides back into the hard form of the package. You only cut the welds off one or at most two edges.

    11. Re:What do other people do? by Firehed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      An Open X comes in a Ziploc bag and was created for the purpose of murde^H^H^H^H^Hopening this type of packaging.

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    12. Re:What do other people do? by sacrilicious · · Score: 4, Funny
      I would like to humbly thank you for properly nesting your parentheses.

      Here's a tough problem I agonize over, and wonder if you'd have an opinion. Let's say you write something in parens and it's funny enough to warrant a smiley face. Can/should the paren for the smiley's mouth count as the closing paren? In other words, is it better to do "(that was funny:)" or "(that was funny:))"?

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    13. Re:What do other people do? by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Funny
      2 open's and one close

      I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is ironic.

    14. Re:What do other people do? by Firehed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've broken scissors opening blister packs. I think $5 for a tool designed for this purpose is more than fair, especially considering that the broken scissors cost more than that in the first place. The idea of using gardening shears (the giant hedge trimmers immediately came to mind, but I realized that's not what you meant) seems a bit nuts, and in any case is a kludge - you'll still end up with jagged edges and all that dangerous nonsense. These, in theory, leave your product package in a reasonably safe condition that won't cause a guilt trip if it needs to be returned.

      Plus, in the upcoming holiday spirit, they'd make great cheap stocking-stuffers.

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    15. Re:What do other people do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tell me about it. I buy food wrapped in metal all the time. I can't tell you how many scissors and knifes I'd ruined before I finally gave in to the scam that is: the can opener cartel.

  2. just had this happen by yagu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just had this happen... I find the plastic wrap not only dangerous to me to remove, but it can be difficult to get the product out of the packaging sometime without damaging it.

    I just bought a mini-jack to RCA cable by Dynex. I cut carefully around the edge and when separating the clamshell halves nearly cut myself on the hard sharp plastic... what the heck? Not an unusual occurance with today's annoying packaging but I've gotten pretty good at it. The problem with this package?

    Turns out, there was an inner-shell piece "cleverly" designed to hold the ends of the cable in display in middle of the package, a third piece of plastic I couldn't see, and didn't anticipate. In extracting the cable (finally!) the edge of one of the plastics nicked the exterior of the cable... no harm, no foul I guess, but a tug a little harder or in a slightly different direction and the cable could have been compromised.

    Also had a remote control I bought for my Dad a couple of months ago. I easily navigated the surrounding plastic and strategically popped out the remote only to find what had appeared to be a cardboard insert was instead the user's manual now cut in half replete with pages of remote codes (for universal remote). So, I had to tape the manual back together to look up the codes.

    Throw into the rage mix CD packaging, infuriating! I've had CD jewel cases damaged in the process of freeing my music. And how annoying that "pull" tape holding the jewel case shut! It's almost impossible to remove cleanly and even if you get it off there's almost always some annoying residue.

    I don't know if the intent is to be clever with packaging, prevent theft, but it's gotten so bad I have started factoring in how much pain the packaging looks to promise vs. how much I want the product. Sounds silly, but after a few plastic cuts for a couple of two-buck knick knacks...

    1. Re:just had this happen by Afecks · · Score: 3, Funny

      How about when are trying to force something open and your hand slips making you hit yourself in the face? Do you give your hand a look of betrayal like I do?

    2. Re:just had this happen by penix1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "I don't know if the intent is to be clever with packaging, prevent theft, but it's gotten so bad I have started factoring in how much pain the packaging looks to promise vs. how much I want the product. Sounds silly, but after a few plastic cuts for a couple of two-buck knick knacks..."

      There are reasons to use these plastic gimmicks;

      1) It is easy to package and can be done mechanically.
      2) It is difficult for a thief to nick it.
      3) It is bulky so if the thief stuffs it in their pocket, it is easily identifiable.
      4) Items in it stay where they were put when encased. This prevents damage when shipping as well as makes display uniform.

      and lastly...
      5) Nobody really has taken corporate management to task for this so reasons 1-4 outweigh 5.

      The only question I got is does the plastic really need to be that thick?

      B.

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    3. Re:just had this happen by jlarocco · · Score: 5, Funny
      How about when are trying to force something open and your hand slips making you hit yourself in the face? Do you give your hand a look of betrayal like I do?

      You are much to lenient with your extremeties. I suggest removing the limb immediately. Make your vengeance swift and unmerciful. The hand has openly defied you in the midst of its peers. It has opposed you once, and there is no telling how far it may go next time.

  3. Rage? Not quite, but certainly frustrated. by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The stuff that gets me down:

    • CD cases: I've broken a few CD cases trying to get that damn plastic off, just to find the first corner I can get a grip and tear it.
    • DVD cases: Quadruple sealed for the store's protection, FO, consumers, you would be thieves! I've torn the plastic covers on a few thanks to the 2-3 seals around the edges. When the get old, the glue sometimes can be a mess, coming off the back of the plastic.
    • Plastic Clamshells: I've had my share of deep cuts from trying to open these things. The plastic, when cut with a knife can still have edges you could challenge a Ginsu Knife with. Can I sue someone for medical expenses? If I had my camera here I could show you scars.

    Plastic Clamshells

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  4. Recycling by dakirw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not only are these packages hard to open, many are difficult to recycle. What a waste of petroleum!

  5. Cutter. by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    > One man even invented a cutter designed specifically for cracking open plastic clamshells.

    Did it look anything like this?

    1. Re:Cutter. by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, more like this

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  6. You want rage? by overshoot · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yeah -- then the product doesn't work, you attempt to return it, and the retailer points out that they only accept returns of the complete package (presumably so that they can close it up and let some other poor schmuck buy it, until eventually someone keeps it rather than go to the trouble of returning it.)

    Alternately, they insist that the obviously-enormous forces you used to open the package must have damaged the product, so it's not their problem.

    Yeah, both are bogus and if you stand up for your rights you get action -- but what do you want to bet a lot of people don't?

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  7. this story was accepted at the wrong time by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Funny

    editors: you should have waited 25 days, and accepted the story at about... oh 11:00 am on december 25th

    then you would have gotten a buttload of seriously frustrated, angry, and demented comments in the affirmative

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    1. Re:this story was accepted at the wrong time by cepler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't worry, I'm sure we'll get a dupe by then... :-P

  8. And what do they expect *us* to do? by ummit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most importantly, how do the manufacturers imagine people are supposed to open those things? I would really like to know the answer to this. (Even better, I'd like somebody like Michael Moore to entrap an executive into a candid, on-camera attempt to open one of his own company's packages using only the everyday household appliances to hand.)

    1. Re:And what do they expect *us* to do? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd rather we entrap the executive in a clamshell.

      Ok, we can provide an airhole if you insist.

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    2. Re:And what do they expect *us* to do? by Loconut1389 · · Score: 3, Informative

      For packages with unsealed borders, but a sealed edge, I cut down the borders with household Fiskars scissors- being careful not to cut my hands on the edges as you move my hand between the two serrated edges I'm creating. For ones with sealed borders, I usually jab a scissors in the side and make a hole and start cutting from there- if there's not much space to get in there without damaging something, a short exacto will work on softer plastics but beware of flying blades on harder plastics (nearly lost an eye once!). Usually, my scissors work fine.

    3. Re:And what do they expect *us* to do? by aslate · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The point is that you're not.

      I work in a PC store and there's loads of stuff that can make a thief a quick buck in a few seconds. Ink cartidges are the biggest target, with Lexmark (Crappy cardboard rectangle) boxes being found open without contents all the time, whereas the really-tough-sealed ones aren't being nicked. Epson have a compromise, they've got the hard-squishy plastic shell (that milk bottles are made of) with a plastic film coating over the front. You need to pierce and open these (knife makes simple work) but it's not too easy to do instore.

      Stores care more about stuff going missing from the shelves then it being purchased and not being opened at home. Granted this stuff is too hard to open and they need to sort it out, but slowly compromises will come.

    4. Re:And what do they expect *us* to do? by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It must be the same logic used by automobile engineers who design cars so that you have to remove the engine, radiator hoses, power steering pump, air-conditioning compressor, and exaust manifold in order to change the spark plugs.

      Let's have a show of hands from all the kind folks who have attempted to open a plastic bag of spaghetti at the seams, only to have it rip down the sides sending noodles flying all over the kitchen floor. I've never understood the logic of using a glue that is stronger than the material it is intended to seal.

    5. Re:And what do they expect *us* to do? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Funny
      I'd rather we entrap the executive in a clamshell.

      Ok, we can provide an airhole if you insist.

      You mean an airhole for the asshole?
    6. Re:And what do they expect *us* to do? by jamesh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't recall anyone insisting...

      Just this morning I was attaching some caster wheels to some furniture, and realised a needed a longer screw attachment for my drill. I went and bought one and sure enough it was sealed up good. Took me a bit of hacking to open, and that was with my toolbox right next to me. Again, opening items like this is easy enough, opening them without damaging them is another matter.

      Another one that pisses me off is when they print the instructions on the cardboard which is sandwiched between the layers of packaging, so just cutting through it with scissors means cutting through the instructions. Not that I ever read instructions. *cough*

      Then there is the whole environmental thing... where does all this packaging go once the item has been unpacked!!!

  9. Just this week... by photomonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I bought a new 80gb iPod and one of those silicone skins to keep it in.

    While I was removing the theft-deterrent plastic packaging, one of the sharp plasic edges cut clean through the silicone.

    The good news is that the folks at the Apple store took it back without complaint, even though they could have said I damaged it myself (which I did) and not taken it back. The gal behind the counter even went so far as to call it a pretty frequent occurrence.

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  10. Patience, grasshopper... by pla · · Score: 5, Informative

    but opening them can be difficult enough to cause injuries that land people in the emergency room.

    Oh, gimme a break. A pair of scissors applied in the correct spot will open just about anything you can fit on your lap (you may need something more heavy-duty for larger items, I will admit).

    As the bigger problem here, many stores balk at taking back defective goods if you've turned the packaging into confetti. Given that we have packaging so sturdy that you can't remove it without reducing it to a pile of ragged plastic strips, that makes it difficult to take back most products (although in most states, they legally must take it back if defective, and that includes software/dvds/cds - Look up "warrant of merchantability" and your state's laws on the subject - "State law" trumps "store policy" every time).

    Personally, I think every product should have a sort of magic pull-string... Just untape the string and pull it, and the otherwise-invulnerable packaging neatly falls away in two or three tidy chunks to reveal its contents (and which, with a bit of care, you could reassemble the packaging enough to return it to the store without much fuss).

    1. Re:Patience, grasshopper... by Fweeky · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Right, scissors get there eventually, but unless they're 3ft long your hand's going to end up right next to the razor sharp edges of the packaging while you're having to apply a few metric tonnes of force to slice through the armoured plastic. Doesn't take much of a slip to put a nasty gash in your hand.

    2. Re:Patience, grasshopper... by Phil_At_NHS · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Yes, scissors applied in the correct spot will open them, but scissors applied to an incorrect spot may well destroy the product, and with a lot of this packaging, there is no easy way to tell what is a safe place to cut. With cords, manuals, accessories, etc. often hidden between sheets of cardboard...

      My solution? As soon as I pay for it, I ask the clerk if they have something to open it with, and generously allow them to do the opening.

      If everyone did this, all the time, the problem would go away very quickly. If they complain, ask for a manager. IF they want a reason, here is mine. "You have workman's comp if you get injured opening this thing, and I have been cut by these types of packages. Also, you have a replacement if opening the packages destroys the contents."

  11. EMT shears by steveha · · Score: 4, Informative

    For opening those plastic bubbles, I use EMT shears. You can get them at a hardware store and they aren't expensive. (I think I paid US$3 for mine.)

    For round bubbles, I take my pocket knife and punch a starter hole, then switch to the EMT shears to open the package. But often there is a flat heat seal around the package, and you can simply take cut the seal part off and get the package open.

    steveha

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  12. Now by billsoxs · · Score: 3, Informative

    if they could just create something to unwrap the Barbies - It takes 20 minutes to untie all of the metal bands and plastic ties. (Before you ask, I have two daughters.)

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  13. Geez by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, I agree the packaging is annoying, but all the comments here are perplexing me (e.g., "how do the manufacturers expect people to open these?", "Using a knife is dangerous!!")

    Like, have people on Slashdot never heard of this fancy gadget called "scissors"? Come down from the trees, my monkey brethren, and let me show these wacky things called "tools".

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  14. FUNNY - Domesticus - Plasticus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    I work for one of those companies that import, sell, and manfuacture products just like that.

    Do you know how many times the US Customs dept calls up and asks us what specieces of CLAM is we are importing?

    Our answer is always: "Domesticus Plasticus" followed by a long pause...

  15. Very Dangerous by imputor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wife nearly killed herself, literally, trying to open one of these plastic fortresses. It was an individually wrapped steak knife. She cut the plastic around the knife and began to pull the knife out by the handle (which was outside of the plastic), but it got stuck on the way out, jumped, and proceeded to slash her wrist about 5 inches long, from the middle of her palm to just past the wrist-bone. Took her to the ER where she proceeded to get 16 stitches and a "you were lucky" speech from the doctor. 1 milimeter one way or the other and she would have severed either a main artery or damaging nerves and tendons, potentially losing the usage of her hand. Doctor said, "you're lucky blood wasn't squirting all over your ceiling." I can't even imagine what would have happened if I were not there to tourniquet her arm and get her to the ER. All of this 2 weeks before our wedding. Yeah, now the story is funny to tell, but at the time it was scary as fuck. Plus, do you know what it's like explaining to your family why your finance has a slashed open wrist 2 weeks before your wedding? Hah! This packaging is ridiculous and needs to go.

    1. Re:Very Dangerous by Nahor · · Score: 4, Funny
      do you know what it's like explaining to your family why your finance has a slashed open wrist 2 weeks before your wedding?
      There is something Freudian there, but I'm not quite sure how to interpret it. Is it your future wife or the wedding that you find expensive?
  16. Hand Surgeons Love Em by kbob88 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My brother-in-law is a plastic surgeon specializing in hands. He told me last year that fully a *third* of his surgeries are to repair damage caused by these plastic packages. Most commonly, people get frustrated and apply extra force with a knife, which then slips and cuts across the palm of the hand, slicing through some of the tendons and nerves that control the fingers. It is a real mess to repair apparently. Or people cut themselves up on the sharp plastic edges by trying to rip open the package with their hands and brute force.

    Bad for us non-surgeons, but good for them - he has a really nice boat!

  17. After using aviation snips by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...And while you are at Home Depot buy some glue, so after you open the clamshell you can repair the thing you ordered.

  18. Sealed ketchup bottles by Joosy · · Score: 4, Funny

    You flip open the top of a new bottle of ketchup. You squeeze. Nothing comes out.

    Oh, yeah. You forgot about the inner seal.

    You unscrew the top and are faced with a circular round piece of foil which seals the opening. Attached to this is a white plastic semi-circle. This is sticking up, implying that by pulling you will also remove the silver foil seal, allowing access to the product.

    You pull at the semi-circle [gently|firmly|side-to-side|straight up] and it detaches completely, leaving the silver seal in place and the product as inaccessible as before.

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  19. plastics by Quadraginta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One of the problems the manufacturers have is that people demand nice, crystal-clear transparent plastics in their packaging, so they can ogle the merchandise without actually putting their hands all over it (which the retailers do not want, for obvious reasons).

    But what makes plastics very transparent is also what makes them form those nasty sharp edges when broken or cut. In the jargon, you need plastics that are very 'glassy' at room temperatures.

    So the situation ends up not much different than with glass (silica) itself. It's lovely stuff, very transparent, easy to form into different shapes at a low temperature, quite cheap -- but, alas, forming those nasty strong, sharp edges when you break it.

    You can certainly go back to polyethylene for packaging, which is nice and soft, easy to open, without sharp edges. But it's a lot cloudier, since it's much more crystalline, and people don't like that, apparently.

    1. Re:plastics by Quadraginta · · Score: 5, Informative

      Looks like someone failed their polymer chemistry course.

      Well, I've taught polymer physics -- the chemistry is not what's interesting here -- so it would be most unfortunate if that were the case.

      Whether a plastic is glassy or not does not correlate with whether a plastic is transparent or not.

      What makes something cloudy or opaque? You need structure on the scale of the wavelength of light to scatter visible light. Undergraduate physics tells us that something with a high crystallinity, made of lots of microcrystalline domains, is probably going to have such structure, and amorphous (glassy) substances -- which as you've pointed out yourself have far less regular structure -- will probably not. Hence one generally expects polymers with higher crystallinity like polethylene to be opaque or cloudy, as indeed they are, and polymer resins with low crystallinity like PS to be clear, as, by golly, they are.

      Here is a little intro on polymers from the American Plastics Council, in which you'll note the following:

      "Amorphous polymers are generally transparent. This is an important characteristic for many applications such as food wrap, plastic windows, headlights and contact lenses. Obviously not all polymers are transparent. The polymer chains in objects that are translucent and opaque are in a crystalline arrangement...The higher the degree of crystallinity, the less light can pass through the polymer. Therefore, the degree of translucence or opaqueness of the polymer is directly affected by its crystallinity."

      Hmmm... do you suppose those silly folks at the American Plastics Council failed polymer physics, too?

    2. Re:plastics by mrbcs · · Score: 3, Funny
      Second time on Slashdot I've seen an AC Pwned by a teacher / professor.

      Priceless... I LOVE slashdot!

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  20. Re:Chainsaw anyone? by vincentj7 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I once had an experience with ridiculous food packing. It was so traumatic that I felt compelled to write about it:

    On Freshness and Weiners

    Since when did the security of my hot dogs become so paramount? I decided to have a couple for dinner tonight, but I could barely get the package open! At first glance, it looks like a standard plastic wrapper, with the requisite ziplock strip (for freshness!) But once I began to open the package, I realized it is actually a hermetically sealed vault with no less than four stages of defense between me and my tasty franks. I admit I was fooled by the words on the wrapper: "Easy open! Resealable packaging!" It would prove to be neither.

    Step one looks simple enough: tear along the perforated line. Okay. But in this devious contraption that strategy yields no results. Below the perforation lies an unassuming red strip sandwiched between four layers of plastic. The strip is made from an indestructible space-age composite that forms a permanent, indelible bond with its surrounding layers. The red strip itself performs no physical function; its sole purpose is to taunt you like some kind of unattainable trophy. I spent minutes trying to expose the object to the elements before I realized the true nature of the artifice. A pair of scissors applied strategically below the strip dispatched the insidious foe. The third stronghold was the aforementioned ziplock strip, which one might assume would provide a sufficient measure of freshness beyond the first two barriers. The feeble ziplock strip provided a brief moment of respite and optimism until I realized there was yet another layer of protection. An adhesive seal remained like a ticking time bomb, ready to disrupt the integrity of the entire structure. Separating the glue between the two walls detached a section of ziplock also, rendering the resealable packaging totally ineffectual. By the time I got the package open, I had actually starved to death.

    Next time I think I'll just have a burger.

  21. Colbert by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't believe that no one has linked this yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTjeAR2bnfU
    From march 2006

  22. OpenX is dangerous crap. by VidEdit · · Score: 3, Informative

    I thought the OpenX sounded like a great stocking stuffer. I bought 4 last year. I almost cut myself the minute I tried it!

    OpenX has two cutterblades, a safe one for pushing and a hidden dangerous one that pops out of the bottom for starting the cutting process with a piercing cut. It's this latter blade I almost cut myself with. Clamshells are just too tough for the blades and it is highly likely that the package will slip when you try to use the starting cutter. I pictured family members trying to use the opener at Christmas with Clamshells on their lap--shudder. I decided not to give the gift of possible genital mutilation and exsaguination for Christmas and tossed all 4 in the trash. By some heavy duty sheers instead.

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  23. Nah, you can have your cake and eat it too... by maillemaker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No one has a problem with nice, clear plastic windows in packaging so you can see the item in the box.

    What people have a problem with is when that clear plastic FRONT window is thermally, ultrasonically, or RF welded to a matching BACK clamshell.

    This is what makes you have to break out the damn jackhammer to get to the item inside.

    It's all to help prevent shoplifting.

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    1. Re:Nah, you can have your cake and eat it too... by Quadraginta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's all to help prevent shoplifting.

      Maybe, but that's not obvious to me. Perhaps the major reasons are to assist in packing and prevent damage in transit. Small widgets are sorted and packed at high speed by machines. If you design a package that can be opened by the pretty feeble forces a human fingertip can exert, then it's not going to be able to be sorted at 80 MPH by the metal claw of a robot.

      You're looking at it from the point of view of the thing sitting on the display hook in the store. But that's near the end of its life before use: it has a long history from factory floor to the store that you need to consider, and there's a good chance major aspects of the packaging are designed to meet the needs of distribution and transport.

    2. Re:Nah, you can have your cake and eat it too... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Informative
      Small widgets are sorted and packed at high speed by machines. If you design a package that can be opened by the pretty feeble forces a human fingertip can exert, then it's not going to be able to be sorted at 80 MPH by the metal claw of a robot.
      Heh. By machines, eh? You've obviously never worked in a factory. In my desperate youth I worked many minimum wage factory jobs. You'd be amazed at what they HAVEN'T automated. Put handles on plastic buckets? People do that. Assemble high voltage electrical connectors for the film industry. Yep, people with electric screwdrivers. But the number one thing I have always seen done by people, never by machines, that'd have to be packing and shipping. No 80mph conveyor belts-- any company moving product THAT fast isn't doing it on one line, they're doing it on several lines in parallel. High speed stuff breaks too easily. Certainly no expensive robots that, when they break, can't be replaced by calling the temp agency and having them send another the next day for the same $5/hr you were paying the last one.
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  24. thank god condoms by LM741N · · Score: 5, Funny

    don't come packaged like that

  25. Actually, it's more sinister than this. by numbski · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's a double-edged sword that the manufacturers LOVE about this packaging.

    1. Nearly impossibly for the product to shrink (ie, someone walks up, takes the item from the packaging, leave the package, takes the item.

    2. People feel guilty taking something back to the store that looks destroyed. I've actually gotten dirty looks from sales associates when I took a bluetooth headset back that didn't work right. The packaging was mangled because at the time the only thing I had handy to open it were my keys. So I poked holes in it until I could get my fingers into it, ripped it open, charged it....didn't work. Took a manager to get them to take it back.

    So yeah. The stores won't put an open item that looks like *that* back on the shelf, so fewer returns. Win-win in their eyes. They don't really care about convenience on this one. In fact, the more inconvenient, the better.

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  26. AMD switched a while back... by Vidar+Leathershod · · Score: 3, Informative

    AMD used to use clamshell packaging on their Athlon processors. It was a nightmare, and I cut myself more than once opening them. I lavished them with praise (through the reseller channel) a couple of years ago when they switched to a mixed packaging of cardboard, cornstarch-based molding, and a little plastic. That new package is easy to open, easy to reuse, and is easy to disassemble for appropriate recycling.

    The Core2 Duo processors I have been receiving are coming in plastic inside cardboard. There's more plastic, but it's not hard to open. I still prefer the AMD packaging, and I hope Intel does something similar soon, as the plastic looks resealable, but isn't.

    Vidar

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  27. slowly compromises will come? by Stunning+Tard · · Score: 4, Interesting
    So unless we complain nothing happens? That doesn't seem fair or efficient.

    They've already made ink pack gadgets to protect clothes.
    There are similar protective containers for dvds.

    The cashier takes them off with another gadget of some sort (magnets?).

    So solutions are near at hand with little/no creativity required.

    That being said this is what *I'd* like to see:

    A new package which is easy to open but makes a loud bang. Ever pulled a christmas cracker?

    If the bang is hard to avoid thieves should be deterred.
    As a bonus christmas mornings should get much more fun.

  28. the second is wrong by The+Creator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "(that was funny:)" or "(that was funny:))"?

    You'd need to escape the smileyparen. Like so: "(that was funny:\))" :)

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